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I just listened to an interview with James Young from Styx and a local DJ. JY went on to say how Plant was dead against an extended tour. HOWEVER, after last night and after the response internationally, he feels like there's a certain emotional obligation to give this to the fans. That Zeppelin needs to exit a certain way because of the role they've played in the lives of their fans. He gets it. He knows they have to exit properly. They have, as a band, a responsibility to their fans, to their craft and to themselves, to end this thing right. They will no doubt be touring North America and other parts of the world soon. I will personally be going to see these guys because of their sentiments. I've never liked their music, but it isn't too late to win me over and there's no better way to do that than live. I wish Robert Plant would have a talk with Steve Perry. Thoughts?

I don't think any band owes it to anyone, any more than fans owe it to a band to support them.

I have read for years about how bands owe it to their fans for supporting them all of these years, buying their albums, concert tickets, swag, etc. No one forces us to buy anything from them. All the band owes us is a performance for our money, either via album or concert.

Journey has provided 3 decades of good music. We have our money's worth.

tj wrote:I don't think any band owes it to anyone, any more than fans owe it to a band to support them.

I have read for years about how bands owe it to their fans for supporting them all of these years, buying their albums, concert tickets, swag, etc. No one forces us to buy anything from them. All the band owes us is a performance for our money, either via album or concert.

Journey has provided 3 decades of good music. We have our money's worth.

Journey gave us great music from 78-86....hardly 30 years.

Perry thinks he did that with TBF...Oh that's right there was no tour! Funny.. I would kiss Plant's ass if he could get Perry on the ph..

Saint John wrote:

tj wrote:I don't think any band owes it to anyone, any more than fans owe it to a band to support them.

I have read for years about how bands owe it to their fans for supporting them all of these years, buying their albums, concert tickets, swag, etc. No one forces us to buy anything from them. All the band owes us is a performance for our money, either via album or concert.

Journey has provided 3 decades of good music. We have our money's worth.

Journey gave us great music from 78-86....hardly 30 years.

Good, not great.

Journey gave us great music from 73-86 and good music from 96-now.

ProgRocker53 wrote:Journey gave us great music from 73-86 and good music from 96-now.

Agreed, but I am referring specifically to Perry's era since that's the reunion everyone wants and the one that I'm referring to.

Saint John wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:Journey gave us great music from 73-86 and good music from 96-now.

Agreed, but I am referring specifically to Perry's era since that's the reunion everyone wants and the one that I'm referring to.

In that case, agreed. Haha.

Saint John wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:Journey gave us great music from 73-86 and good music from 96-now.

Agreed, but I am referring specifically to Perry's era since that's the reunion everyone wants and the one that I'm referring to.

Agreed as well. I just don't think that Perry or anyone else "owes" it to us as fans. If Robert Plant feels that he has a debt to repay, I am all for it.

Same with Perry. If he feels that he owes us more music, I will be fighting to be first in line to buy it. He provided great music during his time with Journey and made an enourmous amount of money from the fans (me included). If he doesn't, I certainly got my money's worth the first time around.

I would love to see them tour over here, as I wont be seeing Journey. Jimmy Page kicks Neals ass anyway. He has grey hair and doesent use botox ,but he is a much more creative guitar player then Neal ,more technics,and different styles in his playing.I thought they sounded great

Saint John wrote:I just listened to an interview with James Young from Styx and a local DJ. JY went on to say how Plant was dead against an extended tour. HOWEVER, after last night and after the response internationally, he feels like there's a certain emotional obligation to give this to the fans. That Zeppelin needs to exit a certain way because of the role they've played in the lives of their fans. He gets it. He knows they have to exit properly. They have, as a band, a responsibility to their fans, to their craft and to themselves, to end this thing right. They will no doubt be touring North America and other parts of the world soon. I will personally be going to see these guys because of their sentiments. I've never liked their music, but it isn't too late to win me over and there's no better way to do that than live. I wish Robert Plant would have a talk with Steve Perry. Thoughts?

One issue that remains the Pink elephant dude....Plant can still sing.

Tj, I agree that Steve Perry doesn't "owe" us anything. That said, I'm tired of everyone whining about the "legacy" and Journey running it into the ground. Sorry folks, but this band apparently wasn't fronted by someone with the stones between his legs to put the past behind like the Eagles did, Van Halen did, Zeppelin did, Genesis did, and The Police did. The "legacy" would have been solidified if he simply honored his commitment to tour. Instead, he trumped up an injury, or at worst exploited it, to scurry back home and pet his cats. If anyone has no respect for the legacy it's the guy that disappeared during Trial By Fire only to resurface on Behind The Music with ridiculous statements like "I never felt like part of the band" and "Don't crack the stone." What utter bullshit. You think these guys aren't perfectionists? You think they're not a bit hesitant about not sounding like they did 20-30 years ago? Of course they're hesitant. They just have the balls to end things right and to cement the "legacy" so many of you speak of.

Andrew wrote:

Saint John wrote:I just listened to an interview with James Young from Styx and a local DJ. JY went on to say how Plant was dead against an extended tour. HOWEVER, after last night and after the response internationally, he feels like there's a certain emotional obligation to give this to the fans. That Zeppelin needs to exit a certain way because of the role they've played in the lives of their fans. He gets it. He knows they have to exit properly. They have, as a band, a responsibility to their fans, to their craft and to themselves, to end this thing right. They will no doubt be touring North America and other parts of the world soon. I will personally be going to see these guys because of their sentiments. I've never liked their music, but it isn't too late to win me over and there's no better way to do that than live. I wish Robert Plant would have a talk with Steve Perry. Thoughts?

One issue that remains the Pink elephant dude....Plant can still sing.

He exceeded my expectations. I only hope they tour because I'll be there.

Andrew wrote:

Saint John wrote:I just listened to an interview with James Young from Styx and a local DJ. JY went on to say how Plant was dead against an extended tour. HOWEVER, after last night and after the response internationally, he feels like there's a certain emotional obligation to give this to the fans. That Zeppelin needs to exit a certain way because of the role they've played in the lives of their fans. He gets it. He knows they have to exit properly. They have, as a band, a responsibility to their fans, to their craft and to themselves, to end this thing right. They will no doubt be touring North America and other parts of the world soon. I will personally be going to see these guys because of their sentiments. I've never liked their music, but it isn't too late to win me over and there's no better way to do that than live. I wish Robert Plant would have a talk with Steve Perry. Thoughts?

One issue that remains the Pink elephant dude....Plant can still sing.

So can Perry until he tells me he can't.

SJ, Perry wont tell you anything, I wish he would though

What's odd is this, Andrew. JSS confirmed that Perry was in fact going to be a part of Journey Night on American Idol or at the very least was considering it. Unfortunately, Journey had to understandably say no. That said, why would he go on national TV and perform if he can't sing? I think he still can.

Thoughts?...Perry doesn't want to sing for the public....his life, his choice.

....and thats all I gotta say 'bout that

TVL wrote:Thoughts?...Perry doesn't want to sing for the public....his life, his choice.

....and thats all I gotta say 'bout that

Then why does he "think about it everyday?" Why the "I miss it terribly" comments?

Saint John wrote:

Andrew wrote:

Saint John wrote:I just listened to an interview with James Young from Styx and a local DJ. JY went on to say how Plant was dead against an extended tour. HOWEVER, after last night and after the response internationally, he feels like there's a certain emotional obligation to give this to the fans. That Zeppelin needs to exit a certain way because of the role they've played in the lives of their fans. He gets it. He knows they have to exit properly. They have, as a band, a responsibility to their fans, to their craft and to themselves, to end this thing right. They will no doubt be touring North America and other parts of the world soon. I will personally be going to see these guys because of their sentiments. I've never liked their music, but it isn't too late to win me over and there's no better way to do that than live. I wish Robert Plant would have a talk with Steve Perry. Thoughts?

One issue that remains the Pink elephant dude....Plant can still sing.

So can Perry until he tells me he can't.

Expect deafening silence then....

Andrew wrote:

Saint John wrote:

Andrew wrote:

Saint John wrote:I just listened to an interview with James Young from Styx and a local DJ. JY went on to say how Plant was dead against an extended tour. HOWEVER, after last night and after the response internationally, he feels like there's a certain emotional obligation to give this to the fans. That Zeppelin needs to exit a certain way because of the role they've played in the lives of their fans. He gets it. He knows they have to exit properly. They have, as a band, a responsibility to their fans, to their craft and to themselves, to end this thing right. They will no doubt be touring North America and other parts of the world soon. I will personally be going to see these guys because of their sentiments. I've never liked their music, but it isn't too late to win me over and there's no better way to do that than live. I wish Robert Plant would have a talk with Steve Perry. Thoughts?

One issue that remains the Pink elephant dude....Plant can still sing.

So can Perry until he tells me he can't.

Expect deafening silence then....

Scroll up a few posts and answer my question koala boy.

Saint John wrote:What's odd is this, Andrew. JSS confirmed that Perry was in fact going to be a part of Journey Night on American Idol or at the very least was considering it. Unfortunately, Journey had to understandably say no. That said, why would he go on national TV and perform if he can't sing? I think he still can.

Who said he was goign to sing? No one knew that....he may have participated for sure. But perform? Doubt it.

Andrew wrote:

Saint John wrote:What's odd is this, Andrew. JSS confirmed that Perry was in fact going to be a part of Journey Night on American Idol or at the very least was considering it. Unfortunately, Journey had to understandably say no. That said, why would he go on national TV and perform if he can't sing? I think he still can.

Who said he was goign to sing? No one knew that....he may have participated for sure. But perform? Doubt it.

Hmmmm...then i wonder why Journey had a problem with it. Good decision, nonetheless. Block him at every pass just like he has done to Journey for the better part of 20 years. Bravo Journey.

Saint John wrote:

TVL wrote:Thoughts?...Perry doesn't want to sing for the public....his life, his choice.




Then why does he "think about it everyday?" Why the "I miss it terribly" comments?

because he probably does miss it...just like he said about Sherrie...you can miss someone...doesnt mean you want to be back with them.

Andrew wrote:

Saint John wrote:What's odd is this, Andrew. JSS confirmed that Perry was in fact going to be a part of Journey Night on American Idol or at the very least was considering it. Unfortunately, Journey had to understandably say no. That said, why would he go on national TV and perform if he can't sing? I think he still can.

Who said he was goign to sing? No one knew that....he may have participated for sure. But perform? Doubt it.

Drew, you seem pretty adament that Perry's voice is shot;
have you been holding out on some tatsy inside info all these years?

But seriously, don't you think Perry could still slay us w/the band
going down a whole step like Zepp just did for Plant?
Sure, it wouldn't be 1981 Perry or even '86 Perry but
IT WOULD BE STEVE PERRY!

SOMETHING or SOMEONE ruined the music biz for Perry somewhere
along the way and, like everyone else, I would love to know what/who it was.
you don't just walk away from your "life's passion" for no reason...

TVL wrote:

Saint John wrote:

TVL wrote:Thoughts?...Perry doesn't want to sing for the public....his life, his choice.




Then why does he "think about it everyday?" Why the "I miss it terribly" comments?

because he probably does miss it...just like he said about Sherrie...you can miss someone...doesnt mean you want to be back with them.

If he missed it he would perform. As for Sherrie I doubt she wants him back.

Saint John wrote:

TVL wrote:

Saint John wrote:

TVL wrote:Thoughts?...Perry doesn't want to sing for the public....his life, his choice.




Then why does he "think about it everyday?" Why the "I miss it terribly" comments?

because he probably does miss it...just like he said about Sherrie...you can miss someone...doesnt mean you want to be back with them.

If he missed it he would perform. As for Sherrie I doubt she wants him back.

you can miss something and still not want to do it for a variety of reasons. There are good sides and bad sides...which side weighs more on his mind? Bet he's been torn for years about it..but the negatives must have kept him away.
Another reason may be he doesn't want to change "What Was" and leave HIS legacy as it stands...leave HIS stone uncracked.

TVL wrote:

Saint John wrote:

TVL wrote:

Saint John wrote:

TVL wrote:Thoughts?...Perry doesn't want to sing for the public....his life, his choice.




Then why does he "think about it everyday?" Why the "I miss it terribly" comments?

because he probably does miss it...just like he said about Sherrie...you can miss someone...doesnt mean you want to be back with them.

If he missed it he would perform. As for Sherrie I doubt she wants him back.

you can miss something and still not want to do it for a variety of reasons. There are good sides and bad sides...which side weighs more on his mind? Bet he's been torn for years about it..but the negatives must have kept him away.
Another reason may be he doesn't want to change "What Was" and leave HIS legacy as it stands...leave HIS stone uncracked.

His "legacy" ended with an unfinished tour, suspicious injuries and "gag orders." His stone is far from uncracked, especially since his last disappearing act came on the heels of an almost 10 year layoff. It's also painfully obvious that the 1996 album and false tour hopes where nothing more than one selfish man's inability to let Journey move forward.

St John- I will go with Steve Smith on Perry's hip condition. As far as his voice he sounded like ROR with "A Brand new start "with David pack. We almost always agree but lately.............................

squirt1 wrote:St John- I will go with Steve Smith on Perry's hip condition. As far as his voice he sounded like ROR with "A Brand new start "with David pack. We almost always agree but lately.............................

The fact that Herbie Herbert knew BEFORE the hip injury that Perry wasn't going to tour and the fact that he made everyone sign "gag orders" leads me to believe that there is some sort of truth he's trying to suppress. Couple that with the ridiculous remarks he made on Behind The Music and you've uncovered someone being less than honest.