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OT: Your tax dollars at work!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:00 am
by Rip Rokken
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,317992,00.html

...The Washington Post on Saturday reported the Bureau plans to spend $1 billion to build the world’s largest computer database of minute details of people’s physical characteristics in efforts to identify criminals and terrorists.

When the project is complete, the pattern of one’s iris and face shape may alert the government to a terrorist’s identity. Upon request from employers, the FBI will retain fingerprints of employees and alert them if those workers violate the law.

The undertaking encompasses the gathering and storage of digital images of faces, fingerprints and palm patterns and is expected to use scars and possibly speech and body movement to give the government unprecedented access in identifying individuals around the world...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:51 am
by Rockindeano
I see nothing wrong with this. 1 billion? Big Deal. The "war" in Irag is going to cost upward of 1.5 TRILLION dollars and if you think back, Shrub was estimating the effort might cost 45-50 billion dollars.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:52 am
by Rip Rokken
Rockindeano wrote:I see nothing wrong with this. 1 billion? Big Deal. The "war" in Irag is going to cost upward of 1.5 TRILLION dollars and if you think back, Shrub was estimating the effort might cost 45-50 billion dollars.


It's not the tax expense -- it's the technology it's being used for. Ya don't think that won't be used against the general public someday?

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:27 am
by Rockindeano
Rip Rokken wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I see nothing wrong with this. 1 billion? Big Deal. The "war" in Irag is going to cost upward of 1.5 TRILLION dollars and if you think back, Shrub was estimating the effort might cost 45-50 billion dollars.


It's not the tax expense -- it's the technology it's being used for. Ya don't think that won't be used against the general public someday?


Of course I do. They are already wire tapping us. Dude, open your eyes. There is no democracy left, at least not for the average Joe. W and his boys are above the law. They do what they want to do, period.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:28 am
by Rip Rokken
Rockindeano wrote:Of course I do. They are already wire tapping us. Dude, open your eyes. There is no democracy left, at least not for the average Joe. W and his boys are above the law. They do what they want to do, period.


Ain't going away once George leaves office, though.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:58 am
by Rockindeano
Rip Rokken wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Of course I do. They are already wire tapping us. Dude, open your eyes. There is no democracy left, at least not for the average Joe. W and his boys are above the law. They do what they want to do, period.


Ain't going away once George leaves office, though.


The Clinton administration was very very good at not toppling and running over our constitution. Hillary will do the same; respect it.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 5:13 am
by EightyRock
Reading this reminded me of something I heard on a consumer alert radio show the other day. They claim that when you agree to TimeWarner/Roadrunner's standard "privacy" policy, (which is about 3,000 pages and nobody ever reads it), that they have access to all your personal and private info, INCLUDING reading all your e-mails! We're not just talking about a few "cookies" here and there. They are supposedly into major extraction of info and sell it for profit. Supposedly, some attorney decided to sit down and read all 3,000 pages and couldn't believe what our government has allowed them to do. I don't know how much of this is true, but this has nothing to do with terrorism and everything to do with capitalism gone crazy.
Just another case of Shrubism.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:23 am
by Rip Rokken
EightyRock wrote:Reading this reminded me of something I heard on a consumer alert radio show the other day. They claim that when you agree to TimeWarner/Roadrunner's standard "privacy" policy, (which is about 3,000 pages and nobody ever reads it), that they have access to all your personal and private info, INCLUDING reading all your e-mails! We're not just talking about a few "cookies" here and there. They are supposedly into major extraction of info and sell it for profit. Supposedly, some attorney decided to sit down and read all 3,000 pages and couldn't believe what our government has allowed them to do. I don't know how much of this is true, but this has nothing to do with terrorism and everything to do with capitalism gone crazy.
Just another case of Shrubism.


AOL was the first I'd heard of someone doing this, when they announced a few years ago that chat transcripts and e-mail for AIM users was their property, and they could do with it as they want. Google Mail was the first company I remember admitting that they scan messages for keywords, I guess to sell to advertisers. It's only going to get worse, but the people using the free services are most at risk for it.