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John Waite song I've never heard before!

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:38 am
by G.I.Jim
Hey,
Just came across this song, and wondered if anyone here's heard it? The caption on Youtube called this a Bad English song, but the image quality's pretty poor. The song's awesome, and definitely sounds like a Bad English song. Very cool!!! Too bad we'll never hear another album from them. Let the teeth jokes fly Deano!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4wY3XkM ... re=related

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:45 am
by youkeepmewaiting
good song and definitly had a Cain keys feel to it, but he had no appearence in the video which was a bit odd . .

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:56 am
by G.I.Jim
youkeepmewaiting wrote:good song and definitly had a Cain keys feel to it, but he had no appearence in the video which was a bit odd . .
I think it's actually a Waite song...not Bad English. This song seriously kicks ass though!

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:59 am
by youkeepmewaiting
G.I.Jim wrote:youkeepmewaiting wrote:good song and definitly had a Cain keys feel to it, but he had no appearence in the video which was a bit odd . .
I think it's actually a Waite song...not Bad English. This song seriously kicks ass though!
thats gotta be niel schon on guitar though? could tell that hair from a mile a way haha
i wasnt aware that Schon played on any of Waites solo stuff

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:30 am
by Ms_M
Someone in the comments indicate it was from the Days of Thunder soundtrack - just found it on Amazon. Unfortunately, the track listing doesn't list who wrote or performed on the song (other than John Waite).

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:52 am
by yulog
Its Neal and its from the Tom cruise movie

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:31 pm
by Andrew
Ms_M wrote:Someone in the comments indicate it was from the Days of Thunder soundtrack - just found it on Amazon. Unfortunately, the track listing doesn't list who wrote or performed on the song (other than John Waite).
Most of the days Of Thunder tracks were performed by LA studio musicians with guests singing. Case in point the awesome Coverdale song from the soundtrack.
Waite's contribution also a highlight.

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:57 pm
by G.I.Jim
Andrew wrote:Ms_M wrote:Someone in the comments indicate it was from the Days of Thunder soundtrack - just found it on Amazon. Unfortunately, the track listing doesn't list who wrote or performed on the song (other than John Waite).
Most of the days Of Thunder tracks were performed by LA studio musicians with guests singing. Case in point the awesome Coverdale song from the soundtrack.
Waite's contribution also a highlight.
This sounds more like a Bad English tune, than just Waite singing someone else's song for the movie soundtrack. Someone here's had to have heard this before? Is this a new one on you Andrew? I figured you'd know this one.

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:12 pm
by STORY_TELLER
That's definitely Neal on guitar. Sounds like Cain's keyboards and it sounds like a Bad English tune.
I thought maybe this was a solo Waite song featuring Neal on guitar, but Waite and Cain formed Bad English with Ricky Phillips first, then Cain brought Neal into the mix, so this song can't pre-date Bad English. Unless it was a solo song of Waite's first, then the three of them finished it off and they just left it credited as a solo Waite tune?
Mysteries abound....

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:14 pm
by G.I.Jim
Nevermind...Just found my own answer! It's a solo song from Waite that was used from Epic for Days of Thunder. It sounds so much like a Bad English song though, it's uncanny. It was released after the 1st Bad English album. I wonder if they have any unreleased stuff out there???

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:54 pm
by Andrew
G.I.Jim wrote:Andrew wrote:Ms_M wrote:Someone in the comments indicate it was from the Days of Thunder soundtrack - just found it on Amazon. Unfortunately, the track listing doesn't list who wrote or performed on the song (other than John Waite).
Most of the days Of Thunder tracks were performed by LA studio musicians with guests singing. Case in point the awesome Coverdale song from the soundtrack.
Waite's contribution also a highlight.
This sounds more like a Bad English tune, than just Waite singing someone else's song for the movie soundtrack. Someone here's had to have heard this before? Is this a new one on you Andrew? I figured you'd know this one.
I've had the song for years. Love it...
NOT a Bad English tune.

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:06 pm
by G.I.Jim
Andrew wrote:G.I.Jim wrote:Andrew wrote:Ms_M wrote:Someone in the comments indicate it was from the Days of Thunder soundtrack - just found it on Amazon. Unfortunately, the track listing doesn't list who wrote or performed on the song (other than John Waite).
Most of the days Of Thunder tracks were performed by LA studio musicians with guests singing. Case in point the awesome Coverdale song from the soundtrack.
Waite's contribution also a highlight.
This sounds more like a Bad English tune, than just Waite singing someone else's song for the movie soundtrack. Someone here's had to have heard this before? Is this a new one on you Andrew? I figured you'd know this one.
I've had the song for years. Love it...
NOT a Bad English tune.
Do you know if they recorded any tunes for a third album? If not, are there any demos or B-side songs laying around out there? I'd LOVE to get ahold of them if there are. They were an amazingly talented band. They just had the wrong sound at the wrong time...No Seattle grunge here!


Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:29 pm
by Andrew
G.I.Jim wrote:Do you know if they recorded any tunes for a third album? If not, are there any demos or B-side songs laying around out there? I'd LOVE to get ahold of them if there are. They were an amazingly talented band. They just had the wrong sound at the wrong time...No Seattle grunge here!

There are a few demos, yes. Great songs too.
But there are also several more JW demoes that are incorrectly tagged as bad English demos. Those songs rule too. Great singer...pity he has lost the desire to "rock".

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 2:42 pm
by G.I.Jim
Andrew wrote:G.I.Jim wrote:Do you know if they recorded any tunes for a third album? If not, are there any demos or B-side songs laying around out there? I'd LOVE to get ahold of them if there are. They were an amazingly talented band. They just had the wrong sound at the wrong time...No Seattle grunge here!

There are a few demos, yes. Great songs too.
But there are also several more JW demoes that are incorrectly tagged as bad English demos. Those songs rule too. Great singer...pity he has lost the desire to "rock".
Yeah, I bought his latest album...Yawn! If someone's got the hook-up on some demos, PM please! Thanks.

Posted:
Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:44 pm
by Ms_M
Andrew wrote:Ms_M wrote:Someone in the comments indicate it was from the Days of Thunder soundtrack - just found it on Amazon. Unfortunately, the track listing doesn't list who wrote or performed on the song (other than John Waite).
Most of the days Of Thunder tracks were performed by LA studio musicians with guests singing. Case in point the awesome Coverdale song from the soundtrack.
Waite's contribution also a highlight.
My favorite was, and still is, Show Me Heaven by Maria McKee. Beautiful song!

Posted:
Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:57 pm
by 7 Wishes
The song in question is titled "Deal For Life" and was co-written by Waite and, believe it or not, Bernie Taupin.

Posted:
Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:07 pm
by G.I.Jim
7 Wishes wrote:The song in question is titled "Deal For Life" and was co-written by Waite and, believe it or not, Bernie Taupin.
Cool! I hadn't read that. I'll have to go check him out. Does he have any solo stuff?

Posted:
Wed Dec 26, 2007 7:08 am
by 7 Wishes
If you're referring to John Waite..."Temple Bar" is one of the finest solo albums ever written...wonderful songs, top to bottom, with some amazingly introspective lyrics and mesmerizing melodies. It's his finest hour artistically.

Posted:
Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:21 pm
by Journey69
Great song,I haven't heard that in a long time. Waite has one of those serene voices,that's what makes him so good..

Posted:
Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:22 pm
by G.I.Jim
Journey69 wrote:Great song,I haven't heard that in a long time. Waite has one of those serene voices,that's what makes him so good..
That and some kick-ass songwriting skills!

Posted:
Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:35 pm
by larryfromnextdoor
ive always dug this tune TEARS.. plus the fact that Vinnie Vincent wrote it...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrHJRzug400

Posted:
Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:51 pm
by G.I.Jim
Listen to Neal's licks on the intro to this song! He is absolutely amazing! This is one of my favorite tunes they had. It's pretty "poppy", but I still like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2jVwZY7 ... re=related
Here's another one I always loved! I actually think this is my favorite BE tune. It's a lot darker than most of their stuff. It reminds me a lot of one of the tunes off of the "Lost boys" movie with Lou Graham on vocals "Lost in the Shadows". It's called "Forget me not". Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfUMswVj ... re=related

Posted:
Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:07 pm
by 7 Wishes
Neal was at his BE best on the track "Savage Blue" off Backlash.

Posted:
Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:10 pm
by G.I.Jim
7 Wishes wrote:Neal was at his BE best on the track "Savage Blue" off Backlash.
That WAS a great tune too! Too bad we never got a thrid album. I really think a lot of it had to do with their timing. This was when all the Grunge rock was coming out, and they had the "old" sound. Radio stations just turned away from music like this. Sad...