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Good song, nice video. . . especially SPs gorrila impression

BUT

Wheres the solo Neil???

Just when you think he is going to go off on one it just STOPS, you think its going to be an epic . . and then nothing, shortest solo ever surely.

Just wanted to say it as ive never seen it brought up before.

I actually think Neal's soloing on this track is very tasteful and appropriate for the song, it fits right in.

Sometimes less is more, and this is the kind of song that doesn't deserve a 2 minute solo.

This is the second-best Journey ballad in my eyes, after "Faithfully." VERY good song!

ProgRocker53 wrote:I actually think Neal's soloing on this track is very tasteful and appropriate for the song, it fits right in.

Sometimes less is more, and this is the kind of song that doesn't deserve a 2 minute solo.

This is the second-best Journey ballad in my eyes, after "Faithfully." VERY good song!

true but i just feel that what Neil played could of been doubled and still fitted in.

youkeepmewaiting wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:I actually think Neal's soloing on this track is very tasteful and appropriate for the song, it fits right in.

Sometimes less is more, and this is the kind of song that doesn't deserve a 2 minute solo.

This is the second-best Journey ballad in my eyes, after "Faithfully." VERY good song!

true but i just feel that what Neil played could of been doubled and still fitted in.

That's Perry controlling the creativity again. Guarantee you Neal wanted to do more. Still a good song, but yes, there could have been more without hurting the overall song structure.

I actually really like this solo. Its very short but powerful, and fits well with the rest of the song. I liken it to his solo with "When I see You Smile" . It just flows very well with the song.

I think Neals solo is just right,He wants to over play most of the time. Im glad Perry had control . The song wasnt about a guitar solo

youkeepmewaiting wrote:nice video. . . especially SPs gorrila impression

This had me going .

I got strung up once by loondom for remarking on the weirdness of that moment but come on.

youkeepmewaiting wrote:Good song, nice video. . . especially SPs gorrila impression

Love the song, but just can't imagine SP looking gorilla-like. Maybe chimp-like?

ProgRocker53 wrote:I actually think Neal's soloing on this track is very tasteful and appropriate for the song, it fits right in.

I remember reading years and years ago some critique of Neal (TV show or magazine, can't remember), saying that one of the things most impressive about him was his ability to restrain his playing to serve the song, and not try to steal the show every time. He gave each musician room to shine. Again, this was years and years ago, during the Perry era.

Red13JoePa wrote:

youkeepmewaiting wrote:nice video. . . especially SPs gorrila impression

This had me going .

I got strung up once by loondom for remarking on the weirdness of that moment but come on.

Gorrilla? I'm gonna have to watch that video again - all I remember is the Steve-Perry-All-Girl-Violin-Orchestra...and his flying hair....and all that spinning he was doing on the bad hip....whoa, did I just say that?

sounds like his solo in all the way

"When You Love A Woman" is one of my very favorite ballads, perhaps second only to WCTNGOF. Neal's guitar solo is also one of my favorites, very emotional and searing, yet he still can through some of his signature runs and blends in at the end.

A+

I kinda of agree with YKMW, Neil was held back here but as the song works as it is...the decision to hold him back was a wise one. This is Perry's swan song

styxman wrote:I kinda of agree with YKMW, Neil was held back here but as the song works as it is...the decision to hold him back was a wise one. This is Perry's swan song

I feel the song TBF is Perrys swan song . . ooo i feel a new thread comin' along hah

youkeepmewaiting wrote:

styxman wrote:I kinda of agree with YKMW, Neil was held back here but as the song works as it is...the decision to hold him back was a wise one. This is Perry's swan song

I feel the song TBF is Perrys swan song . . ooo i feel a new thread comin' along hah

Commercially it has to be WYLAW

styxman wrote:

youkeepmewaiting wrote:

styxman wrote:I kinda of agree with YKMW, Neil was held back here but as the song works as it is...the decision to hold him back was a wise one. This is Perry's swan song

I feel the song TBF is Perrys swan song . . ooo i feel a new thread comin' along hah

Commercially it has to be WYLAW

ahh yes commercially no doubt.

For those interested in seeing his Gorrila impression, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP_XApLJXzY

3.20 secs in.

Too short? No way, not with the string interlude coming first... unbelievably tasteful work and I also agree that it's probably Journey's strongest ballad, along with Faithfully. Neal's guitar tones on this track are great too (love those glassy clean fills as well as the lead tone)

ProgRocker53 wrote:I actually think Neal's soloing on this track is very tasteful and appropriate for the song, it fits right in.

Sometimes less is more, and this is the kind of song that doesn't deserve a 2 minute solo.

This is the second-best Journey ballad in my eyes, after "Faithfully." VERY good song!

Exactly. This is classic SP/Journey ballad. Jon's piano lead in and out. Neal's guitar blend and Smitty's drum fills. Ross.... lol, I'm not a musician, can't pick out the bass. The chorus, most excellent, climaxing with SP's soaring vocals towarding the ending. Love-love-love this song.

youkeepmewaiting wrote:For those interested in seeing his Gorrila impression, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP_XApLJXzY

3.20 secs in.

Tourette's syndrome maybe?

TigerBite wrote:

youkeepmewaiting wrote:For those interested in seeing his Gorrila impression, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP_XApLJXzY

3.20 secs in.

Tourette's syndrome maybe?

Theres a fella living near me with tourettes .. . .and come to think of it he looks a bit like Perry . . . hmmm are you thinking what im thinking

[quote="TRAGChick"]...how in the WORLD did you get the Santa Hat on the Tiger..?


Sorry....too much Chianti...cheers! \~/[/quote

Did Perry do it? i hear he can do anything, as it says in that book, he turned water into wine.

Remember the first time I heard this song
Bleeker St
Xmas Eve 96 or was it 95


Just had fried calamari in a italina restaurant
Cold & snowy outside
was just about to leave
& the song came on the radio

I just stood there between worlds
listening to the voice that caressed my heart...

Made my evening...

TRAGChick wrote:...how in the WORLD did you get the Santa Hat on the Tiger..?


Sorry....too much Chianti...cheers! \~/

Um. Microsoft Paint? Maybe you should put the bottle away and take a nappers.

Shadowsong wrote:Remember the first time I heard this song
Bleeker St
Xmas Eve 96 or was it 95


Just had fried calamari in a italina restaurant
Cold & snowy outside
was just about to leave
& the song came on the radio

I just stood there between worlds
listening to the voice that caressed my heart...

Made my evening...

I lucked out with this one! I have a friend who's the morning personality at a major radio station in town. He gave me an advance copy of the entire cd! I was LOVING the hell out of that album! I must say though, that the album is by far my favorite. I actually liked Arrival better. I guess the "Signature sound" had just changed so much with Perry's new vocals for my ears.

I thought the songs on Arrival were so much closer to what I expect a Journey album to sound like. Looking back now, I really enjoy the album. It's more mature than the rest, but it sounds great in it's own way.

That's my two cents!

I think Neal's solo is just about right. Sometimes a long solo can ruin a great song. A good guitarist doesn't need a long screaming solo to make an impression.

ebake02 wrote:I think Neal's solo is just about right. Sometimes a long solo can ruin a great song. A good guitarist doesn't need a long screaming solo to make an impression.

Yeah, but were not talking about a "good" guitarist



We're talking bout Neal...

Shadowsong wrote:

ebake02 wrote:I think Neal's solo is just about right. Sometimes a long solo can ruin a great song. A good guitarist doesn't need a long screaming solo to make an impression.

Yeah, but were not talking about a "good" guitarist



We're talking bout Neal...

He is a good guitarist. His off stage decisions leave a lot to be desired, I'll give you that, but you can't deny that the man is gifted with a guitar.

ebake02 wrote:

Shadowsong wrote:

ebake02 wrote:I think Neal's solo is just about right. Sometimes a long solo can ruin a great song. A good guitarist doesn't need a long screaming solo to make an impression.

Yeah, but were not talking about a "good" guitarist



We're talking bout Neal...

He is a good guitarist. His off stage decisions leave a lot to be desired, I'll give you that, but you can't deny that the man is very talented.

"We're not talking about a good guitarist, we're talking about Neal...."

Exactly. Neal Schon is immensely talented. He's not good at all. He's amazing, phenomenal, one-in-a-million. I'd take him over any other guitarist... except perhaps Page, Petrucci, Lukather, Lifeson, and a handful of few others.