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This is probably a jackass question on my part but, inquiring minds...

I have heard Neal say a lot of things and I have heard people say a lot of things about him. Someone, who should know the kind of person he is quite well, was saying on another board about how shallow he is and the biggest reason that Jeff was canned was because Neal felt like he was gaining some momentum and support. He wanted to find an unknown who would just come in and sing the songs he was told to sing and not try to change/influence anything. The person also commented on how amazingly selfish and self-centered he is. He also doesn't come across as being all that bright. Seems like he is somewhere between Forrest Gump and Kelley Pickler.

I know this has probably been chewed on all over this board but, as you can see by my number of posts, I miss a lot. If some one could just provide a little clarity I would appreciate it. I'm just curious...

LazzMan wrote:This is probably a jackass question on my part but, inquiring minds...

I have heard Neal say a lot of things and I have heard people say a lot of things about him. Someone, who should know the kind of person he is quite well, was saying on another board about how shallow he is and the biggest reason that Jeff was canned was because Neal felt like he was gaining some momentum and support. He wanted to find an unknown who would just come in and sing the songs he was told to sing and not try to change/influence anything. The person also commented on how amazingly selfish and self-centered he is. He also doesn't come across as being all that bright. Seems like he is somewhere between Forrest Gump and Kelley Pickler.

I know this has probably been chewed on all over this board but, as you can see by my number of posts, I miss a lot. If some one could just provide a little clarity I would appreciate it. I'm just curious...

Sounds pretty accurate to me.

No i dont know him and wouldn't really want to. He does have the attitude that he needs to be number 1. I think it is more commonly referred to as the Peter Pan Syndrome.

Neal just feels like a founding member, as he should. He deserves all right to make these decisions. Remember, this was Neal's band before SP joined up.

ScarabGator wrote:Neal just feels like a founding member, as he should. He deserves all right to make these decisions. Remember, this was Neal's band before SP joined up.

I will give you that Scarab....good point. I am sticking with the PP syndrome though. Look at both his business and personal relationships.

I have spoke with Neal privately in the past and he has my total respect.

ScarabGator wrote:I have spoke with Neal privately in the past and he has my total respect.

Please do share.

Since when is being a nice guy required for success? He's had plenty of success so it doesn't matter now anyway.

Rockindeano wrote:

ScarabGator wrote:I have spoke with Neal privately in the past and he has my total respect.

Please do share.

I just did. And I dont mean over at my house for dinner, but at concerts.

Meet and greet does not make a "private" talk.

I don't care if every one of these guys are assholes! Who cares? I don't listen to Separate ways and think "Man I hope these guys are good people busting out these tunes!" All I care about is the tunes. Do they have cats, dogs, what's their middle names, what are their favorite colors, what kind of houses do they live in... It doesn't make the music sound any different.

They're real people with real lives (They live a lot more comfortably than most in here I'm sure) and have real problems just like the rest of us. Actually, they probably have MORE problems than the rest of us.

I just like the music, but maybe it's just me.

G.I.Jim wrote:I don't care if every one of these guys are assholes! Who cares? I don't listen to Separate ways and think "Man I hope these guys are good people busting out these tunes!" All I care about is the tunes. Do they have cats, dogs, what's their middle names, what are their favorite colors, what kind of houses do they live in... It doesn't make the music sound any different.

They're real people with real lives (They live a lot more comfortably than most in here I'm sure) and have real problems just like the rest of us. Actually, they probably have MORE problems than the rest of us.

I just like the music, but maybe it's just me.

Dude. Preach on!

Rockindeano wrote:Meet and greet does not make a "private" talk.

Not a meet and greet. It was just he and I talking at the barrier at the front of the stage a few hours before the show started. I would call that a private talk. I didnt say we were friends or that he would even remember me because I know he talks with lots of fans but we did chat. And I am still thrilled by it to this day. Best part is he came over and started the conversation with me!

ScarabGator wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Meet and greet does not make a "private" talk.

Not a meet and greet. It was just he and I talking at the barrier at the front of the stage a few hours before the show started. I would call that a private talk. I didnt say we were friends or that he would even remember me because I know he talks with lots of fans but we did chat. And I am still thrilled by it to this day. Best part is he came over and started the conversation with me!

Yeah, that's pretty much a meet and greet dude. He doesn't have to be sitting behind a table in a tent with a long line of people waiting for an autograph for it to be classified as a meet and greet. You had a quick howdy-do with the guy, not a deep get to know you conversation.

STORY_TELLER wrote:

ScarabGator wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Meet and greet does not make a "private" talk.

Not a meet and greet. It was just he and I talking at the barrier at the front of the stage a few hours before the show started. I would call that a private talk. I didnt say we were friends or that he would even remember me because I know he talks with lots of fans but we did chat. And I am still thrilled by it to this day. Best part is he came over and started the conversation with me!

Yeah, that's pretty much a meet and greet dude. He doesn't have to be sitting behind a table in a tent with a long line of people waiting for an autograph for it to be classified as a meet and greet. You had a quick howdy-do with the guy, not a deep get to know you conversation.

I dont consider that a meet and greet because it had nothing to do with PR for the show, etc I was just hanging out and he came over and did the same. Like I said, I didnt say we were friends or that he would even remember me but we did talk. It was so cool the way it happened I didnt even ask for an autograph because it felt more like 2 guys just kicking back. We really didnt even talk music. The reason I even mentioned this is because Neal Schon is a good guy and very cool to talk to, at least thats what I took from it. He never treated me like a "fan boy" he treated me like hes known me for years. Aw, HELL-I LOVE THE GUY!!!!

ScarabGator wrote:The reason I even mentioned this is because Neal Schon is a good guy

What??

ScarabGator wrote:
I dont consider that a meet and greet because it had nothing to do with PR for the show, etc I was just hanging out and he came over and did the same. Like I said, I didnt say we were friends or that he would even remember me but we did talk. It was so cool the way it happened I didnt even ask for an autograph because it felt more like 2 guys just kicking back. We really didnt even talk music. The reason I even mentioned this is because Neal Schon is a good guy and very cool to talk to, at least thats what I took from it. He never treated me like a "fan boy" he treated me like hes known me for years. Aw, HELL-I LOVE THE GUY!!!!

What did he start talking about when he came over? General BS or did he want you to audition for the singer spot?

I can't imagine anyone who really knows Neal will chime in. It is common knowledge that the man grew up on stage and does not have a formal education. Can he teach my science classes? Probably not, but he can play the guitar like no other and that works for me.

Lula wrote:I can't imagine anyone who really knows Neal will chime in.

Oh I can.

Strangegrey, please come to thread. Strangerey to thread, please.

I'll stick by my earlier comment in this thread:
Neal just feels like a founding member, as he should. He deserves all right to make these decisions. Remember, this was Neal's band before SP joined up.

I saw him as a good guy, as I said. That has nothing to do with peoples impressions of his treatment of JSS because noone really knows who, what, where, or why, they just ASSUME to. We talked about the the area, road experiences, and guitar. We talked about other stuff too but my mind went numb due to the thrill and I cant seem to recall it....

Somebody turn the Gaydar on lol

ScarabGator wrote:

STORY_TELLER wrote:

ScarabGator wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Meet and greet does not make a "private" talk.

Not a meet and greet. It was just he and I talking at the barrier at the front of the stage a few hours before the show started. I would call that a private talk. I didnt say we were friends or that he would even remember me because I know he talks with lots of fans but we did chat. And I am still thrilled by it to this day. Best part is he came over and started the conversation with me!

Yeah, that's pretty much a meet and greet dude. He doesn't have to be sitting behind a table in a tent with a long line of people waiting for an autograph for it to be classified as a meet and greet. You had a quick howdy-do with the guy, not a deep get to know you conversation.

I dont consider that a meet and greet because it had nothing to do with PR for the show, etc I was just hanging out and he came over and did the same. Like I said, I didnt say we were friends or that he would even remember me but we did talk. It was so cool the way it happened I didnt even ask for an autograph because it felt more like 2 guys just kicking back. We really didnt even talk music. The reason I even mentioned this is because Neal Schon is a good guy and very cool to talk to, at least thats what I took from it. He never treated me like a "fan boy" he treated me like hes known me for years. Aw, HELL-I LOVE THE GUY!!!!

StoneCold wrote: or did he want you to audition for the singer spot?

ScarabGator wrote:I'll stick by my earlier comment in this thread:
Neal just feels like a founding member, as he should. He deserves all right to make these decisions. Remember, this was Neal's band before SP joined up.

I saw him as a good guy, as I said. That has nothing to do with peoples impressions of his treatment of JSS because noone really knows who, what, where, or why, they just ASSUME to. We talked about the the area, road experiences, and guitar. We talked about other stuff too but my mind went numb due to the thrill and I cant seem to recall it....

Were you with a hot chick?

StoneCold wrote:

ScarabGator wrote:I'll stick by my earlier comment in this thread:
Neal just feels like a founding member, as he should. He deserves all right to make these decisions. Remember, this was Neal's band before SP joined up.

I saw him as a good guy, as I said. That has nothing to do with peoples impressions of his treatment of JSS because noone really knows who, what, where, or why, they just ASSUME to. We talked about the the area, road experiences, and guitar. We talked about other stuff too but my mind went numb due to the thrill and I cant seem to recall it....

Were you with a hot chick?

Not at that time, I was all alone. It was kind of like that part in Waynes World with Alice Cooper, Im standing there just talking casually with him and I actually thought to myself "I am hanging with Neal Schon!!! Talking about shit!!!! I am so not worthy..." And no, he didnt ask me to audition, although for him I would have gotten up there and gave it the old boy scout try!!!

Have had a few chances to sit a talk with the man for short periods of time. Came across very down to earth (surprising to me). Can I say I "know" him. Absolutely not.

Alot of the dislike that is spewed toward Neal on these boards has to do with business decisions he has made. Do I agree with all the decisions or how they were handled. Not at all. But they are his decisions to make.

And we can call on as many former business associates and disgruntled ex-employees as we want. I am not going to believe their biased point of view anymore than I am going to believe that I actually "know" Mr. Schon.

The bottom line for me is that Neal Schon is an awesome musician who makes music I enjoy very much. As others here have said, he is not a saint he is a rock-star. And there is always more to the stories we discuss here than we are privy to. We may be privy to one point of view, but I don't think any of us is privy to all the points of view invollved.

ScarabGator wrote:I'll stick by my earlier comment in this thread:
Neal just feels like a founding member, as he should. He deserves all right to make these decisions. Remember, this was Neal's band before SP joined up.

I saw him as a good guy, as I said. That has nothing to do with peoples impressions of his treatment of JSS because noone really knows who, what, where, or why, they just ASSUME to. We talked about the the area, road experiences, and guitar. We talked about other stuff too but my mind went numb due to the thrill and I cant seem to recall it....

Who the hell is noone? And I don't think JSS's treatment is in question here.

ScarabGator wrote:
That has nothing to do with peoples impressions of his treatment of JSS because noone really knows who, what, where, or why, they just ASSUME to.

You shouldn't assume that perhaps some of us here don't know what happened. I happen to know without a doubt, what happened. Unlike Susie, your "inside info agent," I do know stuff.

Lula wrote:

ScarabGator wrote:I'll stick by my earlier comment in this thread:
Neal just feels like a founding member, as he should. He deserves all right to make these decisions. Remember, this was Neal's band before SP joined up.

I saw him as a good guy, as I said. That has nothing to do with peoples impressions of his treatment of JSS because noone really knows who, what, where, or why, they just ASSUME to. We talked about the the area, road experiences, and guitar. We talked about other stuff too but my mind went numb due to the thrill and I cant seem to recall it....

Who the hell is noone? And I don't think JSS's treatment is in question here.

Obviously I missed a space in noone. It just seems that everyones problem with neal is the JSS thing.

Rockindeano wrote:

ScarabGator wrote:
That has nothing to do with peoples impressions of his treatment of JSS because noone really knows who, what, where, or why, they just ASSUME to.

You shouldn't assume that perhaps some of us here don't know what happened. I happen to know without a doubt, what happened. Unlike Susie, your "inside info agent," I do know stuff.

back to the susie attacks! Finally I am now being included!!! Sorry pal, dont know her, never met her, never talked to her. Keep reaching little fella.

ScarabGator wrote:Obviously I missed a space in noone. It just seems that everyones problem with neal is the JSS thing.

not at all.

Lula wrote:

ScarabGator wrote:Obviously I missed a space in noone. It just seems that everyones problem with neal is the JSS thing.

not at all.

well, I think we can just agree that some like him and some dont. I happen to still be a fan.