BEhind the music. Directors cut.. What is the difference ?

by **Liquid_Drummer** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 12:13 am

I have a version of it that someone posted but how do I know if it is the directors cut or not ?

by **Liquid_Drummer** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:58 am

Cmon folks. Bump..

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:01 am

i never knew either,, some of them women are going to have to speak up..

by **Lula** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:08 am

apparently the director's cut has a story regarding the drug use of one member and is maybe 30 minutes longer

by **Marabelle** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:15 am

There's a bit about one of the musician's money problems and maybe something else but not that much...

by **stevew2** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:21 am

Its got to be one of these, Neals coke habit, Dean going to rehab,Ross s homeless days, or Frigas pole addition

by **journeyrock** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:46 am

Lula wrote:apparently the director's cut has a story regarding the drug use of one member and is maybe 30 minutes longer

Lula, that is the cutest picture of Wyatt. Looks like he had a fine Christmas!

by **Rockindeano** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:49 am

Jesus Christ Steve, could you you be any worse a writer? Fuckin all Hell.

It was Ross' coke addiction, not Neal's, Deen with two EE's and "Friga's pole addiction?" That made me laugh out loud, loudly.

by **bluejeangirl76** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:54 am

Rockindeano wrote:Jesus Christ Steve, could you you be any worse a writer? Fuckin all Hell.

It was Ross' coke addiction, not Neal's, Deen with two EE's and "Friga's pole addiction?" That made me laugh out loud, loudly.

Made me laugh too, then Dean, your avatar made me laugh harder. Love it.

My avatar was a Hillary 2008 ad until I made alterations. Mayhaps I should change it back soon. :wink:

by **stevew2** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:57 am

Rockindeano wrote:Jesus Christ Steve, could you you be any worse a writer? Fuckin all Hell.

It was Ross' coke addiction, not Neal's, Deen with two EE's and "Friga's pole addiction?" That made me laugh out loud, loudly.

I meant you going to Rehab,.not Deen C. lol

by **G.I.Jim** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:06 am

Rockindeano wrote:Jesus Christ Steve, could you you be any worse a writer? Fuckin all Hell.

It was Ross' coke addiction, not Neal's, Deen with two EE's and "Friga's pole addiction?" That made me laugh out loud, loudly.

I know someone, who was sitting in a bar and Neal sat down beside him. Of course when he recognized Neal, he was a little star struck. He was trying to carry on a conversation with Neal and right in the middle of the sentence, Neal asked him if he knew where he could score some coke. As soon as my buddy said he didn't, Neal just got up and left. I trust the source this came from. There's my two cents. :wink:

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:12 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Jesus Christ Steve, could you you be any worse a writer? Fuckin all Hell.

It was Ross' coke addiction, not Neal's, Deen with two EE's and "Friga's pole addiction?" That made me laugh out loud, loudly.

I know someone, who was sitting in a bar and Neal sat down beside him. Of course when he recognized Neal, he was a little star struck. He was trying to carry on a conversation with Neal and right in the middle of the sentence, Neal asked him if he knew where he could score some coke. As soon as my buddy said he didn't, Neal just got up and left. I trust the source this came from. There's my two cents.

i bet 99% of any money generating rock stars use recreational drugs.. if neal asked me . .. i would try to find him some.. he is neal schon.. :wink:

by **texafana** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:50 am

G.I.Jim wrote:I know someone, who was sitting in a bar and Neal sat down beside him. Of course when he recognized Neal, he was a little star struck. He was trying to carry on a conversation with Neal and right in the middle of the sentence, Neal asked him if he knew where he could score some coke. As soon as my buddy said he didn't, Neal just got up and left. I trust the source this came from. There's my two cents.

Good god man, I've heard that urban legend story with "your favorite artist" instead of "Neal" so many times in a bar! Seriously!! :lol:

I've heard it used with Eddie Van Halen, Vince Neil, Axel Rose. What a hoot!

by **Rockindeano** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:54 am

If Neal wants a little nose candy, so what? He has the bank, who gives a shit?

I wouldn't tell this story on MR but that's just me.

by **G.I.Jim** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:25 am

Rockindeano wrote:If Neal wants a little nose candy, so what? He has the bank, who gives a shit?

I wouldn't tell this story on MR but that's just me.

Well, you said it was Ross, not Neal. If I would have just said "no, it's Neal too", you would have said "how do you know?". If not, you would have just said I was full of shit...Just wanted to explain what I was referring to, that's all. You're right though, it's his nose and his money...if he wants to blow it, that's his perogative. :roll:

by **xflajrnylvr** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:47 am

In reference to the questin the directors cut continues the story eth the inclusion of Sa into the band and the run time is like 15-20 min longer without the commercials

by **raisedonfaith** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:59 am

There's more story about Aynsley leaving the band -- the clash with him and Perry. There's stuff about Ross's bankruptcy as well additional commentary about everything else.

by **ProgRocker53** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:10 am

I've always wondered what the deal was with Dunbar. I remember hearing alot about him dissing the rest of the band when they weren't around, and some shit about him and truckloads of underage girls.

If anyone can give some Dunbar insight, please do, I'm immensely curious. Love the guy's drumming..

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:00 am

ProgRocker53 wrote:I've always wondered what the deal was with Dunbar. I remember hearing alot about him dissing the rest of the band when they weren't around, and some shit about him and truckloads of underage girls.

If anyone can give some Dunbar insight, please do, I'm immensely curious. Love the guy's drumming..

i still cant believe that is him banging on that self titled Whitesnake album from 1986... i mean .. that is some heavy hitting .. and i love it !

by **Liquid_Drummer** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:03 am

Ok, where can I get it ? Pretty please !

by **larryfromnextdoor** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:57 am

Liquid_Drummer wrote:Ok, where can I get it ? Pretty please !

get what man?

by **Rip Rokken** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:52 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
G.I.Jim wrote:[I know someone, who was sitting in a bar and Neal sat down beside him. Of course when he recognized Neal, he was a little star struck. He was trying to carry on a conversation with Neal and right in the middle of the sentence, Neal asked him if he knew where he could score some coke. As soon as my buddy said he didn't, Neal just got up and left. I trust the source this came from. There's my two cents.

.. if neal asked me . .. i would try to find him some.. he is neal schon..

Same here... I would have asked him, "Regular, Diet, Caffeine Free, or Cherry?"

by **JohnH** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:05 pm

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
ProgRocker53 wrote:I've always wondered what the deal was with Dunbar. I remember hearing alot about him dissing the rest of the band when they weren't around, and some shit about him and truckloads of underage girls.

If anyone can give some Dunbar insight, please do, I'm immensely curious. Love the guy's drumming..

i still cant believe that is him banging on that self titled Whitesnake album from 1986... i mean .. that is some heavy hitting .. and i love it !

Yes, I swear it's so hard, the drum mics are distorting!

John

by **annie89509** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:01 pm

ProgRocker53 wrote:I've always wondered what the deal was with Dunbar. I remember hearing alot about him dissing the rest of the band when they weren't around, and some shit about him and truckloads of underage girls.

If anyone can give some Dunbar insight, please do, I'm immensely curious. Love the guy's drumming..

Depending on who was doing the talking and at what stages of time period, here's what I remember, stuff I have read and come across surrounding the Aynsley departure:

Herbie said in the Castles Burning interview that he would catch A. fooling around with underaged girls in his room, so he fired him. Yet, in the BTM feature, Herbie said he "loved" A. but "had to fire him". The announcer on the show alluded to a conflict of styles between SP and AD, especially in Journey live settings. Aynsley himself commented on the show that he "liked to push it, don't like to just sit back and provide a nice backbeat for the singer to carry the tune." (paraphrasing here).

I have read 2 versions from SP, actually 2 in print and 1 audio. Circa '79: Aynsley seemed "above" everybody else. All the guys would "hang out" with each other on the road, except for Aynsley. They watched SS and Montrose play as their opening band, later jammed and became close buds. All the Journey guys liked Smitty better. Circa '05 (when Houston dvd came out), SP said: "I admit I was causing trouble. One day, Neal and I were watching Steve Smith playing up there, and I turned to Neal and said, "that should be Journey's drummer." (paraphrasing here).

Aynsley has been quoted (in a drummers mag) as saying the reason he lefted Journey was because of creative differences between himself and SP.

At the time ('79) when this change occurred, Neal weighed in that "we all played and practiced together as a band. He (meaning Aynsley) was the only one who would be practicing and counting his solos during sound check."

Judging from another HH quote from that time period, "he (Aynsley) can fight us on this all he wants. But he will not get another dime of compensation." So I take it, it was not a mutually happy separation. Don't know the exact timeline, but Aynsley did catch on with Jefferson Starship, another S.F. supergroup.

Now, let's see if Monker has anything else to add to these summary of events :wink:

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by **Rockindeano** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:59 pm

You hit the spike on the head annie.

Herbie really had a no brainer didn't he? SP or Aynsley? Toughie there.

by **Shadowsong** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:17 pm

I would love to be able to see the Directors Cut again.
In actuality its uncut & has some details cut from the abridged version.

I;m sure there are many subtle differences
but the one that really ached in my heart
was to see that Steve Perry made the
"When You Love a Woman" video in pain.

I recall it being mentioned that he had to rest between takes with icepacks on his hips.

So now when you look into those eyes
& you see a sadness
you know it was real...

:roll:

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