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I wanted to add to the Ballads and Rockers thread.. Would you rather have Perry back and get a 3 Rockers and 7 Ballads? or Would you rather Have JSS,Augeri or Arnel(you can't judge him we haven't heard anything yet)Do a 7 Rocker and 3 Ballad.. I know JSS with be the fav out of the 3,but would you want 7 ballads,just to have Perry back and bow out of the tours or Have Augeri do another Arrival like album with lots of rockers? I will take Arrival over ROR or TBF any day of the week and twice on sunday.We have not heard Arnel with Neal yet so the jury is out,but if the new one is 7-3,I'll take it.. Neal isn't a ballad guy,I think there will be more rockers!

Do you own a spacebar? Or thumbs?

I'm sorry is that too hard for you to read?

bluejeangirl76 wrote:Do you own a spacebar? Or thumbs?

Just a shot in the dark here,but I'm thinking you will take the ballads.. Once again

If I could get another album the caliber of Arrival (with maybe a little better prodution), that would be my choice with any singer.

Journey69 wrote:

bluejeangirl76 wrote:Do you own a spacebar? Or thumbs?

Just a shot in the dark here,but I'm thinking you will take the ballads.. Once again

Incorrect. Rockers with JSS. However, I don't think I'd want to see either of them back with this pack of cretins anyway.
SP, SA and JSS are all above Journey's friggin' bullshit.

As for having Perry back only to have him "bow out of the tour"... well, maybe but more than likely they'd just fire him first.
It's become a nasty little habit of theirs.

10 rockers 0 ballads.

9-1 at the ABSOLUTE max.


With Caino on board, though it;s bound to be 7-3.

How about 5 hard rockers, 4 mid-tempo, and 4 ballads.

I love the ballads and a CD full of nothing but rockers doesn't offer enough variety.

I'll take 7 rockers/mid tempo numbers and 3 ballads over the other combination any day.

I am with JoePa~ 9:1

Red13JoePa wrote:10 rockers 0 ballads.

9-1 at the ABSOLUTE max.

God, if only this could happen with ANY band I like these days.
Versatility is great too, but take Arrival for example. The pre-release
version was SOOOOOOOO whimpy compared to what the final version
was. I'm glad they rethought that whole thing.

Trial by Fire, while it had some great songs on it, was really a snooze fest.
I love Perry, but I want the band to rock more than that or ROR, though "ROR"
is a great track.

It always cracks me up that when any band does pre-press on their albums, it's always
"Oh yeah, man! This album is gonna rock more than the last one by a longshot!" then it
comes out and it's just as ballady if not moreso.

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

Journey69 wrote:

bluejeangirl76 wrote:Do you own a spacebar? Or thumbs?

Just a shot in the dark here,but I'm thinking you will take the ballads.. Once again

Incorrect. Rockers with JSS. However, I don't think I'd want to see either of them back with this pack of cretins anyway.
SP, SA and JSS are all above Journey's friggin' bullshit.

As for having Perry back only to have him "bow out of the tour"... well, maybe but more than likely they'd just fire him first.
It's become a nasty little habit of theirs.

Question for you all-
WHY does Perry have to tour at all? Why couldn't he just record the album with Journey and either let another guy tour with it or do ONE show that's filmed for DVD or Pay Per View? Seriously, if the guy is having the vocal troubles that most seem to agree on (easy kids, easy. I said 'most'), then why couldn't the fanbase allow for a modified form of promotion? With TBF, if Perry REALLY screwed up his hip and didn't bow out for other reasons, I would've been satisfied with the band doing a VH1 concert for a small audience and then releasing it on DVD if it meant keeping the band intact (this coming from a major Augeri cheerleader here).

I dunno, I was just wondering what you guys thought...
By the way Happy New Year and Happy Bday to Deano!

brywool wrote:Question for you all-
WHY does Perry have to tour at all?

He doesn't. It's insane that the "what ifs" keep coming up.
Its pretty clear that the guy isn't into it, and its ULTRA clear that he does want to be involved with Journey.
Some folks just can't let that idea go though, I guess.

brywool wrote:Question for you all-
WHY does Perry have to tour at all?

Because the money these days is in concert sales. If he does a PayPerView or a DVD performance, more people will get it for free than will pay for it in the age of file sharing.

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

brywool wrote:Question for you all-
WHY does Perry have to tour at all?

He doesn't. It's insane that the "what ifs" keep coming up.
Its pretty clear that the guy isn't into it, and its ULTRA clear that he does want to be involved with Journey.
Some folks just can't let that idea go though, I guess.

Whoa... I wasn't suggesting for a moment that this would or could ever happen. I'm always beating on people for the 'if perry came back threads' too. BUT I'm just saying that had they done this for TBF, all the BS could've been avoided. As far as the money, Perry's gotta ton of dough, so I don't think it'd be a factor for him. I mean, the Escape/Houston DVD was a success as was the Journey 2001 DVD. A Perry new with Journey DVD would also do well and it would get him out of touring. Seriously, I can't believe that ANY of them want to stand on a stage and play Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin' again. Could you musicians out there imagine playing the same song night after night for 30 years? Holy cow! It's a wonder Neal hasn't blown his head off...

The money might be an issue for the others. For Perry, I doubt that it would be.
I dunno, if I was Perry and I was "always thinking about it", THIS would be the way I'd handle it. Release a new album with Journey. Do a TV special. DVD it. No Tour. Rake in the Dough. Please the fans, not have to look at Neal's face for 6 months on the road.

I KNOW Perry's not joining and I know that it won't happen, but this is what I would do if I were him.

brywool wrote:

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

brywool wrote:Question for you all-
WHY does Perry have to tour at all?

He doesn't. It's insane that the "what ifs" keep coming up.
Its pretty clear that the guy isn't into it, and its ULTRA clear that he does want to be involved with Journey.
Some folks just can't let that idea go though, I guess.

Whoa... I wasn't suggesting for a moment that this would or could ever happen. I'm always beating on people for the 'if perry came back threads' too.

I know... I wasn't directing that AT you... just at the question in general.

brywool wrote:
I dunno, if I was Perry and I was "always thinking about it", THIS would be the way I'd handle it. Release a new album with Journey. Do a TV special. DVD it. No Tour. Rake in the Dough. Please the fans, not have to look at Neal's face for 6 months on the road.

Not a shabby plan by any means!!

But, he won't. He's got too much integrity for that. PFFFT! Jeesh, Perry, can't you at least be a LITTLE money hungry so we can ALL benefit? C'mon man... plenty of people roaming around waiting and willing to toss a few bucks your way... just sayin'!

Journey69 wrote:I wanted to add to the Ballads and Rockers thread.. Would you rather have Perry back and get a 3 Rockers and 7 Ballads? or Would you rather Have JSS,Augeri or Arnel(you can't judge him we haven't heard anything yet)Do a 7 Rocker and 3 Ballad.. I know JSS with be the fav out of the 3,but would you want 7 ballads,just to have Perry back and bow out of the tours or Have Augeri do another Arrival like album with lots of rockers? I will take Arrival over ROR or TBF any day of the week and twice on sunday.We have not heard Arnel with Neal yet so the jury is out,but if the new one is 7-3,I'll take it.. Neal isn't a ballad guy,I think there will be more rockers!

There's that "Arrival more rocking than TBF" again . It's getting to be my pet peeve. Maybe I'm listening to the wrong versions.

annie89509 wrote:

Journey69 wrote:I wanted to add to the Ballads and Rockers thread.. Would you rather have Perry back and get a 3 Rockers and 7 Ballads? or Would you rather Have JSS,Augeri or Arnel(you can't judge him we haven't heard anything yet)Do a 7 Rocker and 3 Ballad.. I know JSS with be the fav out of the 3,but would you want 7 ballads,just to have Perry back and bow out of the tours or Have Augeri do another Arrival like album with lots of rockers? I will take Arrival over ROR or TBF any day of the week and twice on sunday.We have not heard Arnel with Neal yet so the jury is out,but if the new one is 7-3,I'll take it.. Neal isn't a ballad guy,I think there will be more rockers!

There's that "Arrival more rocking than TBF" again . It's getting to be my pet peeve. Maybe I'm listening to the wrong versions.

I'm the same way. Unfortunately my copy of Arrival is one overflowing with ballads. I've never even heard WGW or NCC, this is one of my biggest sadnesses as a Journey fan.

ProgRocker53 wrote:

annie89509 wrote:

Journey69 wrote:I wanted to add to the Ballads and Rockers thread.. Would you rather have Perry back and get a 3 Rockers and 7 Ballads? or Would you rather Have JSS,Augeri or Arnel(you can't judge him we haven't heard anything yet)Do a 7 Rocker and 3 Ballad.. I know JSS with be the fav out of the 3,but would you want 7 ballads,just to have Perry back and bow out of the tours or Have Augeri do another Arrival like album with lots of rockers? I will take Arrival over ROR or TBF any day of the week and twice on sunday.We have not heard Arnel with Neal yet so the jury is out,but if the new one is 7-3,I'll take it.. Neal isn't a ballad guy,I think there will be more rockers!

There's that "Arrival more rocking than TBF" again . It's getting to be my pet peeve. Maybe I'm listening to the wrong versions.

I'm the same way. Unfortunately my copy of Arrival is one overflowing with ballads. I've never even heard WGW or NCC, this is one of my biggest sadnesses as a Journey fan.

What's NCC?

annie89509 wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:

annie89509 wrote:

Journey69 wrote:I wanted to add to the Ballads and Rockers thread.. Would you rather have Perry back and get a 3 Rockers and 7 Ballads? or Would you rather Have JSS,Augeri or Arnel(you can't judge him we haven't heard anything yet)Do a 7 Rocker and 3 Ballad.. I know JSS with be the fav out of the 3,but would you want 7 ballads,just to have Perry back and bow out of the tours or Have Augeri do another Arrival like album with lots of rockers? I will take Arrival over ROR or TBF any day of the week and twice on sunday.We have not heard Arnel with Neal yet so the jury is out,but if the new one is 7-3,I'll take it.. Neal isn't a ballad guy,I think there will be more rockers!

There's that "Arrival more rocking than TBF" again . It's getting to be my pet peeve. Maybe I'm listening to the wrong versions.

I'm the same way. Unfortunately my copy of Arrival is one overflowing with ballads. I've never even heard WGW or NCC, this is one of my biggest sadnesses as a Journey fan.

What's NCC?

Nothin' Comes Close

Red13JoePa wrote:10 rockers 0 ballads.

9-1 at the ABSOLUTE max.


With Caino on board, though it;s bound to be 7-3.

ditto

realistically, ballads get radio play more than rockers so they gotta do it for the masses. the rest of us can just skip 'em. besides, we'll need the ballads for a potty break at the shows. hehe

(those of you that show hop with me know that I NEVER leave the show--not even for one note)

"World Gone Wild" plays host to what might be Neal's finest rockin' guitar solo. It's the highlight of the song, the last minute and 45 seconds.

Anyways, "Arrival" was more of a snoozefest for me than TBF. Like it or not, Journey's public appeal stems from the ballads. You'll never, ever, ever see a new Journey album absent the ballads. They'd sooner eliminate the rock songs. But if I had it my way, I'd say have an 11-song album, 5 rockers, 3 mid-tempos, 3 ballads.