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OT: Separated Twins Marry, Forced to Break Up

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:43 am
by Voyager
Separated twins marry, forced to break up in UK
Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:45am IST
LONDON (Reuters)

Twins who were separated at birth and raised by different families met later and married but were forced to break up when they discovered their true identities, a British legislator said on Friday.

"It's a tragedy for the couple who are involved, a terrible tragedy. Everyone's hearts will go out to people caught up quite unwittingly in a case of incest of this kind," David Alton, a member of Britain's upper House of Lords, told BBC radio.

Alton first raised the case during debate on a proposed new law on in vitro fertilisation (IVF). He says it highlights the need for children to know who their parents are.

He fears that under the new law, the biological identity of one parent of a child born as a result of IVF could be removed from the birth certificate, creating the potential for similar tragic mistakes to occur.

Alton told parliament last month he had heard about the twins from a High Court judge who had dealt with the case.

"It involved the normal birth of twins who were separated at birth and adopted by separate parents," said Alton, who has no party affiliation. "They were never told that they were twins."

"They met later in life and felt an inevitable attraction" and they got married, he said.

"When they did come to know their true identities it led to their having to separate and also to a lot of heartbreak," Alton said on Friday. News reports said their marriage was annulled.

No further information was available about the twins or where they were from.

"This isn't a regular occurrence but it could become one with large numbers of people now being born by IVF and not knowing their true identities," Alton said.

The Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill, now working its way through the British parliament, recognises same-sex couples as legal parents of children conceived through the use of donated sperm, eggs or embryos.

"The government ... have not accepted the argument that you should have the right to know who your biological father is on the birth certificate," Alton said.

"It would be a terrible act of deception, with the state colluding in that deception, to remove the biological identity of your father from the birth certificate," he added.

Pam Hodgkins, head of a group that helps adults affected by adoption, said the story of the twins was very tragic.

"It is a lesson that we need to learn and apply to the situation of donor-conceived children," she told Sky News.

"Whilst ... nowadays it would be most unusual for siblings to be separated ... the risk of secrecy affecting the lives of people born as a result of egg and sperm donation is exactly the same as the risks that have affected adopted people in the past," she said.

:shock:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:47 am
by Rip Rokken
Freaky story!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:57 am
by Voyager
I know it sounds weird, but if they love each other and they never had a brother/sister relationship, I see no reason why they shouldn't stay together. They may want to refrain from having children due to the freak factor, but what will it hurt if they stay together?

8)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:00 am
by mistiejourney
Dang!

How sad for the couple involved! Can you imagine finding out your spouse was your sibling? Folks used to tease John and I about looking like siblings (a la Donny and Marie, we also got "Barbie and Ken" a few times, but trust me on this one, I am no Barbie! :D )

What about sperm banks, as addressed in the article. How many times is the, uh, donation used? One donor could conceivably (no pun intended) father over a hundred kids, increasing the chances of unknowingly meeting a biological sibling sometime in your life!

:shock:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:01 am
by mistiejourney
Voyager wrote:I know it sounds weird, but if they love each other and they never had a brother/sister relationship, I see no reason why they shouldn't stay together. They may want to refrain from having children due to the freak factor, but what will it hurt if they stay together?

8)


It wouldn't hurt anybody. Their marriage may not be recognized and no kids, of course, but they could stay together.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:55 am
by Ms_M
I saw this online last night, too. Unreal. The sperm donor question is something that will no doubt end up being in a courtroom some day, too. As for this couple, I don't know why they couldn't stay together - unless THEY are just too freaked out.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:10 am
by Lady Luck
I read about it this morning. What are the odds?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:49 pm
by Perrydise
Unbelievable. I do feel badly for them.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:53 pm
by G.I.Jim
They would've been okay if they just moved down here in the south! :shock: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:08 pm
by G.I.Jim
They went their "Separate Ways"! :lol: :lol: Guess the "Girl can't help it". He went to her with "Open Arms", they did some "Lovin', Touchin',Squeezin" , and he told her he couldn't be with her "Faithfully". "After the Fall", they said "Be Good To Yourself"! "Don't stop Believing", and it's a good thing we weren't "Mother, Father"!!! "Suzanne" said I guess I'll just see you in that "Wheel In The Sky" then. See there, this whole thing just started a "Chain Reaction"! Sorry. :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:01 pm
by mistiejourney
G.I.Jim wrote:They went their "Separate Ways"! :lol: :lol: Guess the "Girl can't help it". He went to her with "Open Arms", they did some "Lovin', Touchin',Squeezin" , and he told her he couldn't be with her "Faithfully". "After the Fall", they said "Be Good To Yourself"! "Don't stop Believing", and it's a good thing we weren't "Mother, Father"!!! "Suzanne" said I guess I'll just see you in that "Wheel In The Sky" then. See there, this whole thing just started a "Chain Reaction"! Sorry. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Somebody is enjoying their booze tonight! And it isn't me! :wink: :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:14 pm
by Rip Rokken
mistiejourney wrote:It wouldn't hurt anybody. Their marriage may not be recognized and no kids, of course, but they could stay together.


You know, I misread this at first, and thought for some reason they were conjoined twins separated at birth. I thought for sure the scars would give it away... Totally misread it. Still a sad story.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:17 pm
by RossValoryRocks
The question that is begging is how long before they got married were they together? I mean if it was a long engagement they could have been putting it to each other for years.

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:51 pm
by Little Lenny
Voyager wrote:I know it sounds weird, but if they love each other and they never had a brother/sister relationship, I see no reason why they shouldn't stay together. They may want to refrain from having children due to the freak factor, but what will it hurt if they stay together?

8)


because marriage laws are based on the book of leviticus in the old testament, simple as. :-)
I feel sorry for the pair of them, I mean what are the odds of that happening in the world let alone on our Island? :?

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:53 am
by Voyager
Rip Rokken wrote:
mistiejourney wrote:It wouldn't hurt anybody. Their marriage may not be recognized and no kids, of course, but they could stay together.


You know, I misread this at first, and thought for some reason they were conjoined twins separated at birth. I thought for sure the scars would give it away... Totally misread it. Still a sad story.


They weren't conjoined twins until their honeymoon night.

:lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:55 am
by Lady Luck
G.I.Jim wrote:They would've been okay if they just moved down here in the south! :shock: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:04 am
by journeyrock
G.I.Jim wrote:They went their "Separate Ways"! :lol: :lol: Guess the "Girl can't help it". He went to her with "Open Arms", they did some "Lovin', Touchin',Squeezin" , and he told her he couldn't be with her "Faithfully". "After the Fall", they said "Be Good To Yourself"! "Don't stop Believing", and it's a good thing we weren't "Mother, Father"!!! "Suzanne" said I guess I'll just see you in that "Wheel In The Sky" then. See there, this whole thing just started a "Chain Reaction"! Sorry. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Priceless Jim, and my first thought was that they move to Alabama or Tennessee. :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:10 am
by Liam
Him: Umm...hunny...I just found out you're my twin sister.
Her: We can still stay together can't we????
Him: NO, YOU SICK BITCH.
Her: But remember..."Incest is the best...put your sister to the test"
Him: Hmmm....NO NO...it's just wrong. How about "goodbye sex"??

:shock: :shock: :lol: :lol:


Alls I can say to this is...NASTY.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:42 am
by Behshad
Thats what happens when one tries so hard to find someone lookin like themself!:)
8) I think at this point they should just forget about eachother, get on youtube lookin for their new soulmate :lol: :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:33 pm
by Little Lenny
I found the BRITISH article on this. It is really quite flukey!

Courtesy of Sky News
Twins separated at birth have married each other without realising they were brother and sister, it has been revealed.The British couple's marriage has now been annulled by the High Court after judges ruled the marriage had never validly existed.
The identities of the brother and sister and details of how they fell in love and married are being kept secret.

Soon after they were born they were separated and adopted by different families.
Neither was told they had a twin and had no idea they were blood relatives until after their wedding.

Pam Hodgkins from Adults Affected by Adoption said: "Incest is one of the strongest taboos in our society. But we are always attracted to a partner who is like us.
"And nobody can be more similar than a biological twin."

Professor Lord Alton uncovered the case when a High Court judge told him of a hearing he had dealt with.
"They were never told that they were twins," said Lord Alton. "They met later in life and felt an inevitable attraction."
Experts say their case reinforces the need for children to have greater rights to know the identity of their parents.
Lord Alton believes the implications for in vitro fertilisation are huge - children conceived in this way can have as many as 10 IVF brothers and sisters.
He warns that new reforms drawn up by ministers could undermine existing rights.

The changes, now being debated in the House of Lords, would relax rules on who can have fertility treatment and clinics would be unable to bar single women and same sex couples from treatment.
Critics say it will weaken further the link between children and their biological parents - and even effectively end the need for fathers.
"The right for children to know the identity of their biological parents is a human right," he insisted.
"There will be more cases like this if children are not given access to the truth. The needs of the child must always be paramount."


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