The Arnel Pineda Story?

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The Arnel Pineda Story?

Postby Voyager » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:14 am

I just went over to YouTube and typed in "Arnel Pineda" and found the following comments posted on one of his videos. I don't know if they are accurate or not, so I thought I'd post them here for discussion:

For some unknown reason, Journey decided to fire Jeff Scott Soto (as the story goes, Soto doesn't even know why himself as he was not given a reason and didn't talk to the guys in the band). Prior to Soto's last appearance with the band in Virginia, USA, rumour has it, they contacted Kevin Chalfant to see if he could do the gig. Supposedly, Chalfant had other commitments so they went ahead with Soto.

They (Journey) had become aware of Jeremey Hunsicker (not sure how) prior to that final Soto show and had contacted his management. They went to see Hunsicker perform with his tribute band around that time and extended the invitation for him to audition. Shortly after Soto was informed he was fired.

Management called Hunsicker and told him it was not a "done deal" and the band members were not all in agreement with his hiring. Hunsicker called Neal Schon to ask what the problem was. He then called Cain and, it seems, he got a bit angry and blurted out something to the effect of he might not be the right guy for the job.

If you all of you think Pineda's lack of big-band-long tours you're all pissed off. Pineda has been a professional singer for the last 25 years. He started out performing with a band called Ijos when he was just 15 years old. At Budokan Hall in Tokyo (where Journey played with Perry in the 80's), Pineda and his band entered a World Band Explosion and Pineda won Best Vocalist in 1987 and 1988.

His band then transitioned into AMO, a band that toured the Philippines and played to audiences of 10-15 thousand people. While that size audience is obviously smaller than some of Journey's audiences over the years, it appears to me to be significantly bigger than Hunsicker's audiences for his Journey tribute band. I can't speak for the size of Chalfant's audiences though, as I don't know enough about the concerts he may or may not have performed.

Pineda has been performing 6 nights a week with shows lasting anywhere from 3-6 hours a night since the late 80's. Every song wasn't in the high Journey register. Pineda has also had two record deals with major labels: a solo self-titled album in 1999 with Warner Brothers, and a Zoo album in 2007 with MCA Universal. He's performed plenty of original music, but like ANY actively performing band, when you work the crowds, you find yourself having to do covers that the audience knows, as well as being able to throw in a few originals. Pineda's not a Journey tribute singer. He's just a guy who fronted several bands with original music who had to play covers to please the crowd. Isn't Journey in the same boat? They have to perform their "hits" to please the crowd or everyone goes to the bathroom or beer tent when they perform originals.

In my humble opinion, he has plenty of experience to do the job. He wasn't their "second choice" by any means. They hadn't even heard of him when they auditioned Hunsicker. It was after Hunsicker's call to Cain, that they decided to look for someone else, but they hadn't told Hunsicker a decisive "no" even as Pineda auditioned.


Looks like someone with some inside information may have posted this, but I have no way of knowing who it was or how accurate the information is. Some of it is obviously public knowledge.

Based on the comments I read today on Arnel's YouTube videos, there seems to be a mixed reaction to Journey's decision to hire him. I guess it's no different than the reaction that took place among Journey fans when Augeri was hired. Some people seem to embrace him, and others seem to reject him.

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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:24 am

It takes but 1/2 a brain to know who posted that.

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Postby Deb » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:33 am

Up to 6-hour shows, 6 times a week??? I find that extremely hard to believe!
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:34 am

Congratulations Susie.

She is everywhere.
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:34 am

Deb wrote:Up to 6-hour shows, 6 times a week??? I find that extremely hard to believe!


Not impossible.

Bruce used to play 6-7 hours a night on his Born in the USA Tour and Garth Brooks, yep GB, is playing 3 concerts in 2 days in LA.

Bruce and Garth vocals aren't exactly Journeyish tho are they?
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Postby ProgRocker53 » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:40 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Deb wrote:Up to 6-hour shows, 6 times a week??? I find that extremely hard to believe!


Not impossible.

Bruce used to play 6-7 hours a night on his Born in the USA Tour and Garth Brooks, yep GB, is playing 3 concerts in 2 days in LA.

Bruce and Garth vocals aren't exactly Journeyish tho are they?


Nah, they aren't Journeyish, but it's still a remarkable feat to perform that much and not have your voice give out, no matter what kind of songs one may sing.
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Postby Red13JoePa » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:44 am

Deb wrote:Up to 6-hour shows, 6 times a week??? I find that extremely hard to believe!


Susie's always piping off about that.

Pineda's The "Sting Of Singing."

Tantric vocals? :roll:
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Postby Deb » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:57 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Deb wrote:Up to 6-hour shows, 6 times a week??? I find that extremely hard to believe!


Not impossible.

Bruce used to play 6-7 hours a night on his Born in the USA Tour and Garth Brooks, yep GB, is playing 3 concerts in 2 days in LA.

Bruce and Garth vocals aren't exactly Journeyish tho are they?


3 hours, 6 times a week I can believe. Happened all the time in the 80s......and because of that a lot of them can't sing like they used to either. I've never heard of anybody putting on 6-7 hour shows though. What kind of venues put on 6-7 hour shows by one artist? Multiple artists, yes. :?

And BTW......enjoy the Garth Brooks show, Cindi (Renegade). :D

Tantric vocals?! :lol: :lol:
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:25 am

Rockindeano wrote:Congratulations Susie. She is everywhere.


Fucking A bubba, you got it right deano. Nice to see that she's still going along with what's on wiki. That article is full of errors, big time. Susie even wanted me to fix the errors and add additional information to it. I had already discussed her request with Arnel and I told him I wouldn't change anything and we both agreed that if he wants it fixed and additional information made available and PUBLIC at this time, he'd be the one to do it, not me. Susie blew an ass gasket and told me that Arnel told her he wanted it done but he himself was unable because they can't access wiki from the Philippines. Bullshit!!! Even the JN's can update shit on wiki. That's why a bunch of them got fired for spending paid time on it updating shit. Anyways......
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Postby Gin and Tonic Sky » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:30 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Deb wrote:Up to 6-hour shows, 6 times a week??? I find that extremely hard to believe!




Pineda's The "Sting Of Singing."

Tantric vocals? :roll:


tantric vocals?- yes because Id rather go jack off than go see him sing live :D
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:34 am

Deb wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Deb wrote:Up to 6-hour shows, 6 times a week??? I find that extremely hard to believe!


Not impossible.

Bruce used to play 6-7 hours a night on his Born in the USA Tour and Garth Brooks, yep GB, is playing 3 concerts in 2 days in LA.

Bruce and Garth vocals aren't exactly Journeyish tho are they?


3 hours, 6 times a week I can believe. Happened all the time in the 80s......and because of that a lot of them can't sing like they used to either. I've never heard of anybody putting on 6-7 hour shows though. What kind of venues put on 6-7 hour shows by one artist? Multiple artists, yes. :?



Deb, Bruce went on here in LA at 700PM and left at 140AM. There was a 1/2 hour break mid show.
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This ain't inside info-

Postby ttango1 » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:20 am

All this is a compilation of everything that has already been said or posted elsewhere. It didn't take a genius to read wiki or look through the comments and either cut/copy to paste or first translate and then cut/copy to paste.


What I know is that his shows at Manila and Olongapo are never short sets. I've been told that 3+ hours is the norm. Carry on 8)

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Re: This ain't inside info-

Postby Voyager » Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:24 am

ttango1 wrote:Only the music matters.


If only the music matters, then put on your headphones and chill.

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Postby ttango1 » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:25 am

I'm actually one of those people that can read, post, and have headphones on. Isn't Itunes great??!?!?

I'm actually chilling right now! 8)
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Postby Moon Beam » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:30 am

Rockindeano wrote:Bruce went on here in LA at 700PM and left at 140AM. There was a 1/2 hour break mid show.



Show me the money shots Sir because I just can't see that happening without another band.
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Postby mistiejourney » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:55 am

ttango1 wrote:I'm actually one of those people that can read, post, and have headphones on. Isn't Itunes great??!?!?

I'm actually chilling right now! 8)


I do that all the time! Hail to the multitaskers! :D
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