OT: RAMBO Exposes Do-Gooder Liberals?

[Rip Rokken]

So I was listening to Rush Limbaugh today (You know, I really just listen for the Snapple commercials... haha), and he mentioned that he had a private screening of RAMBO in his home last night. He seemed to dig it! One thing he mentioned was that apparently, it is every bit as violent as it's supposed to be -- he said it made the opening of "Saving Private Ryan" look tame by comparison. Whew....

But he shed an interesting twist on it -- I knew about the Christian missionaries traveling to Burma, but apparently, they are "portrayed perfectly" (his description) as well-intentioned but naive, do-gooder liberals! The kind who have no clue what kind of evil they are dealing with, and therefore, are completely surprised when they are not welcomed with open arms by the enemy, and are totally unprepared to deal with it. And of course Rambo tries to warn them that they aren't going to be able to change anything, but they disagree... So he has to kick some A the old-school way.

I never thought about this, but it seems the film will have that philosophical element to it...

[Rockindeano]

You listen to Rush. I listen to Howard Stern. Here's the BIG difference.

You heard Rush's take on things. I heard Stallone live.

Stallone NEVER mentioned Liberals or problems with them. You heard bullshit. I heard the real thing.

[RedWingFan]

You listen to Rush. I listen to Howard Stern. Here's the BIG difference.

Rush interviewed Stallone on the air when he was promoting "Rocky Balboa."

Stallone NEVER mentioned Liberals or problems with them.

That's because he was sitting in a room full of them except for Scott Depace.

You heard bullshit. I heard the real thing.

If by the real thing you're talking about weighing a weeks worth of High Pitch Eric's poop, then I guess you're right.
I used to listen to Howard too. I grew up. He's pushing 60 and still doing the same stuff I found funny in high school.

[Rockindeano]

You listen to Rush. I listen to Howard Stern. Here's the BIG difference.

Rush interviewed Stallone on the air when he was promoting "Rocky Balboa."

Stallone NEVER mentioned Liberals or problems with them.

That's because he was sitting in a room full of them except for Scott Depace.

You heard bullshit. I heard the real thing.

If by the real thing you're talking about weighing a weeks worth of High Pitch Eric's poop, then I guess you're right.
I used to listen to Howard too. I grew up. He's pushing 60 and still doing the same stuff I found funny in high school.

Stern's stature dwarfs that of your idol. Howard is making 500 million dollars for a 5 year contract.

You grew up. Ok dude, whatever. Howard is the King. Rush is a tool.

[RedWingFan]

You know what movie I had seen when it first came out, then found hilarious after I started following politics, was RoboCop2.
They changed RoboCop's directives from being tough on crime to being a liberal. Hilarious because it's so accurate.

[Rip Rokken]

You listen to Rush. I listen to Howard Stern. Here's the BIG difference.

You heard Rush's take on things. I heard Stallone live.

Well, I'm certain Stallone wouldn't say "liberals", but you have to look beyond the labels at what he's apparently done -- depicted a bunch of nice, very sincere and very well-meaning people who clearly don't understand the nature of evil, and shows what happens when they try to offer the enemy a rose instead of a bullet.

Stern is incredibly ONE NOTE, btw... I had to quit watching and listening, because it was the same thing each time and I grew tired of it...

[RedWingFan]

Stern's stature dwarfs that of your idol.

How many stories have you read about conservatives needing to come up with a "Stern" to compete with Stern?
There are so many littered carcasses of the liberal counterpart that was needed to offset Limbaugh. From Jim Hightower to Al Franken and Air America. All failures.

Howard is making 500 million dollars for a 5 year contract.

Yeah and Sirius had to buckle and try to merge with XM to keep from sinking.

Howard is the King. Rush is a tool.

Actually, at the end I'd find myself laughing at Artie more than Howard. Artie carried him towards the end.

[Journey/Survivor]

There's a line in the new Rambo film where Stallone tells the missionaries "Then you aint changing nothing" after they have said that their not taking weapons with them.

I used to listen to Howard Stern every morning back in the 90's, but I eventually got bored with his show because it was the same thing over and over again.

But I friggin hate Rush Blowhard and always have.

[Rip Rokken]

There's a line in the new Rambo film where Stallone tells the missionaries "Then you aint changing nothing" after they have said that their not taking weapons with them.

I used to listen to Howard Stern every morning back in the 90's, but I eventually got bored with his show because it was the same thing over and over again.

That version of the line was in the early teaser trailer, but they went with alternate cuts in the official trailers, where he said, "You're not changing anything." I hated this new version at first, much preferring the "ain't changing nothin" take, and he sounded kinda zoned out in the new versions -- but from what I understand, they had feedback that the "ain't / nothin" version sounded too much like Rocky, and that Rambo wouldn't use those words -- actually, they were right.

I never really listened to Stern's radio show, but saw the TV broadcast several times. Boy did that wear thin quickly... Same old crap night after night. Just more strippers or porn stars with Howard and crew teasing them about what they'd like to do with them, or getting them to flash. Joke got old really quick. Yet then, there was the occasional moment of brilliance, such as when he had those girls compete for a boob job by seeing who could inhale the most farts out of some dude's butt... (it might have been Mr. Methane). Man, I remember this one chick was about to burst out in tears!

[7 Wishes]

It is a well-known fact that Stallone is very far to the left as far as his own political convictions. That doesn't mean old Roid Head doesn't know how to perfect a character...as a lifelong bodybuilder, personal trainer, and competitive personal athlete I ABHOR his usage of steroids, but the dude makes some kickass movies. So what if he steps on some toes along the way? It's good entertainment.

[texafana]

I used to listen to Howard Stern every morning back in the 90's, but I eventually got bored with his show because it was the same thing over and over again.

Agreed. I can't believe he still has an audience. I lost respect, interest, when he started degrading women on the set. Very lame. Gawd...he has to be the ugliest man in entertainment, def a face for radio. Just butt oogly.

I was hoping he would go back to his roots and wise up and get that wit back on track. But he saw dollar signs in his eyes and decided to keep the vegas act going. Pushing 60 and still doing the shock jock role. jeesh...

[Rip Rokken]

You know, if Stern would just vary his topics a little more, it would be much better, but after a while it seemed that most everything was just the same rehashed gutter-level stuff over and over again -- more strippers, more ogling and groping and innuendo, etc. It might appeal more to me if I was some redneck that kept Hustler magazines and bikini calendars proudly displayed in my office, but I ain't, so it don't.

I never quite bought the whole separation from work and home thing that he had going on for so long -- where he was that way on air, but was a completely different, faithful husband and great dad behind the scenes. It just don't work that way, and the end result spoke for itself. They also say that (at least at first), when he got divorced his audience dropped, because he lost a certain appeal with a segment of his audience -- that of good hubby/dad that just acted out on air and would dish about his personal life, too. He just became another dirtbag...

When he went to Sirius, I gave it a listen once and it was exactly as I predicted -- the same gutter-level uninspired crap as before, except only uncensored and more gratuitous, and I couldn't take 5 minutes of it. I'll never listen to him again...

I did like his movie "Private Parts" very much -- it was a great film -- but I just lost so much respect for him in the last several years to ever listen to him again. He SUCKS...

[Journey/Survivor]

It is a well-known fact that Stallone is very far to the left as far as his own political convictions. That doesn't mean old Roid Head doesn't know how to perfect a character...as a lifelong bodybuilder, personal trainer, and competitive personal athlete I ABHOR his usage of steroids, but the dude makes some kickass movies. So what if he steps on some toes along the way? It's good entertainment.

Actually, it was HGH that he was using, at least that we know for sure. I know that there is potential for health risks from HGH as well, but it's better than roids, and HGH does have some benefits to the health of older adults.

I used to be a bodybuilder of sorts too. Not competitvely, but I was/am bigger and stronger than the average guy.

[donnaplease]

I heard a clip from an interview with Stallone and he was asked which candidate he was supporting for the November election. He stated that he was most impressed by John McCain, because he felt like JM was the most capable of handling the foreign affairs situation that we facing. He said something to the effect that McCain had 'been there, done that' and knew what type of situation he would be dealing in. It didn't sound too far left to me. Frankly, I was surprised, because most of the "hollywood" bunch seem to prefer liberal democrats.

[RedWingFan]

I heard a clip from an interview with Stallone and he was asked which candidate he was supporting for the November election. He stated that he was most impressed by John McCain, because he felt like JM was the most capable of handling the foreign affairs situation that we facing. He said something to the effect that McCain had 'been there, done that' and knew what type of situation he would be dealing in. It didn't sound too far left to me. Frankly, I was surprised, because most of the "hollywood" bunch seem to prefer liberal democrats.

McCain Is a liberal republican. The media doesn't call him that though, they call him a "maverick" because they love how he always votes with dems.

[donnaplease]

I heard a clip from an interview with Stallone and he was asked which candidate he was supporting for the November election. He stated that he was most impressed by John McCain, because he felt like JM was the most capable of handling the foreign affairs situation that we facing. He said something to the effect that McCain had 'been there, done that' and knew what type of situation he would be dealing in. It didn't sound too far left to me. Frankly, I was surprised, because most of the "hollywood" bunch seem to prefer liberal democrats.

McCain Is a liberal republican. The media doesn't call him that though, they call him a "maverick" because they love how he always votes with dems.

You have a point.

[Rockindeano]

I don't give a flying Cats kunt who you drunken dorknobs nominate. You are dead on arrival.

[Rip Rokken]

I've never heard that Stallone was a liberal... He might lean that way, but I've never had that impression.

[Journey/Survivor]

I've never heard that Stallone was a liberal... He might lean that way, but I've never had that impression.

I've heard that in real life he's for gun control. Ironic, isn't it?

[Rockindeano]

I heard a clip from an interview with Stallone and he was asked which candidate he was supporting for the November election. He stated that he was most impressed by John McCain, because he felt like JM was the most capable of handling the foreign affairs situation that we facing. He said something to the effect that McCain had 'been there, done that' and knew what type of situation he would be dealing in. It didn't sound too far left to me. Frankly, I was surprised, because most of the "hollywood" bunch seem to prefer liberal democrats.

McCain Is a liberal republican. The media doesn't call him that though, they call him a "maverick" because they love how he always votes with dems.

You have a point.

But you never Do.


Get used to a country run with COMPETENCE.

[piecesofeight]

Howard Stern is a complete !@#$%^&Z*

[donnaplease]

I heard a clip from an interview with Stallone and he was asked which candidate he was supporting for the November election. He stated that he was most impressed by John McCain, because he felt like JM was the most capable of handling the foreign affairs situation that we facing. He said something to the effect that McCain had 'been there, done that' and knew what type of situation he would be dealing in. It didn't sound too far left to me. Frankly, I was surprised, because most of the "hollywood" bunch seem to prefer liberal democrats.

McCain Is a liberal republican. The media doesn't call him that though, they call him a "maverick" because they love how he always votes with dems.

You have a point.

But you never Do.


Get used to a country run with COMPETENCE.

Boo Freakin' Hoo.

[Monker]

McCain Is a liberal republican.

Which basicaly means he's sane. Hell, even Ron Paul has more sanity then most Republicans.

[Rockindeano]

I heard a clip from an interview with Stallone and he was asked which candidate he was supporting for the November election. He stated that he was most impressed by John McCain, because he felt like JM was the most capable of handling the foreign affairs situation that we facing. He said something to the effect that McCain had 'been there, done that' and knew what type of situation he would be dealing in. It didn't sound too far left to me. Frankly, I was surprised, because most of the "hollywood" bunch seem to prefer liberal democrats.

McCain Is a liberal republican. The media doesn't call him that though, they call him a "maverick" because they love how he always votes with dems.

You have a point.

But you never Do.


Get used to a country run with COMPETENCE.

Boo Freakin' Hoo.

No, goodbye to you, and your faulty leader, full of shit brained party.

Your time is over.

[infinityplusone]

was king '88 to sometime in the mid-90s. Then, as someone said already, he just go too one-note. Plus, he's a terrible interviewer. No matter who he's talking to, it all just comes down to who they've boned, and how was it, how big was it, etc etc. Intriguing, when I was 18, sure. Now it's just retarded.

For good radio, there's so many more who have left Stern in the dust: Opie and Anthony, Ron and Fez, here locally even Don and Mike are better. Stern is over. When OandA get a movie star on, they actually ask interesting questions, and really get whoever's in there to open up and talk enthusiastically about their craft. When Stern confronts somone, I always get the feeling that the publicist recommended they come on; yeah they'll have to endure some junvenile sex questions (so be prepared with some stock response), but the audience numbers can't be ignored, so just 'make sure you plug the movie.'

Stern has my respect because he's made himself #1, but he stopped being fun about 10 years ago. I still do enjoy Artie though.

[Monker]

no clue what kind of evil they are dealing with, and therefore, are completely surprised when they are not welcomed with open arms by the enemy, and are totally unprepared to deal with it. And of course Rambo tries to warn them that they aren't going to be able to change anything.

That is the exactly what happened in Iraq. The President and Republicans used propaganda during the build up for Iraq. Oh, we'll be welcomed as 'liberators'. It well be a cakewalk. All a bunch of bullshit used to prop up support. The naive bought into it - Democrat and Republican. None of them considered the truth that Iraq would not welcome an American imposed 'democracy'. Or, that there was/is no simple solution to replace Sadam's government. Now, to force order to the anarchy, we need a hell of a lot more then ONE Rambo in Iraq.

[Rip Rokken]

was king '88 to sometime in the mid-90s. Then, as someone said already, he just go too one-note. Plus, he's a terrible interviewer. No matter who he's talking to, it all just comes down to who they've boned, and how was it, how big was it, etc etc. Intriguing, when I was 18, sure. Now it's just retarded.

For good radio, there's so many more who have left Stern in the dust: Opie and Anthony, Ron and Fez, here locally even Don and Mike are better. Stern is over. When OandA get a movie star on, they actually ask interesting questions, and really get whoever's in there to open up and talk enthusiastically about their craft. When Stern confronts somone, I always get the feeling that the publicist recommended they come on; yeah they'll have to endure some junvenile sex questions (so be prepared with some stock response), but the audience numbers can't be ignored, so just 'make sure you plug the movie.'

Stern has my respect because he's made himself #1, but he stopped being fun about 10 years ago. I still do enjoy Artie though.

I think we are exactly on the same page about Stern... And you are right about his interviews... that's all they are about.

[Rip Rokken]

That is the exactly what happened in Iraq. The President and Republicans used propaganda during the build up for Iraq. Oh, we'll be welcomed as 'liberators'. It well be a cakewalk. All a bunch of bullshit used to prop up support. The naive bought into it - Democrat and Republican. None of them considered the truth that Iraq would not welcome an American imposed 'democracy'. Or, that there was/is no simple solution to replace Sadam's government. Now, to force order to the anarchy, we need a hell of a lot more then ONE Rambo in Iraq.

I agree with you on this one... And also about Rambo. To be safe, I'd send 3 of him...

[Rip Rokken]

Stallone was on Rush Limbaugh today...

RUSH: (laughs) You portray them flawlessly. Now, I want to ask you about this because after I saw it -- and I watched it a couple nights ago -- I saw the first reviews. The Variety review said that it's missing a plot. The review I read in the New York Post today, it was also not glowing -- which I think is fabulous news for you, because don't spend a lot of time reading movie reviews. But the ones I do always seem to be critical, and those movies just do boffo.

STALLONE: If I could be really candid with you. If my name is Scorsese or Coppola, right away it would be taken a certain way. I represent something, especially to the liberal press. When Ronald Reagan came out and jokingly said, "Rambo is a Republican," the die was cast. So people cannot even interpret the movie. I find it incredibly irresponsible that when this savagery is going down... Like USA Today gives it one star. They don't even review the idea of what is happening in Burma. They couldn't care that the monks are slaughtered. It's just like, "Whatever Stallone represents to a kind of like right is might, let's squash him immediately and make this sound trite, and it's just a vehicle for a man who should be sitting in his wheelchair retiring." The odd thing is, there's a lot of hope out here, Rush, because the majority of the people who see Rambo are 28 years old to 40, and the people are going to see this movie are the younger generation because they're looking for a representation of what real values are; what it means to be a man. And as Rambo says, "Live for something or die for nothing." You know, it's like you have to take a side and really stand up and be willing to walk the walk, and these people just don't walk the walk. I am the anti-Christ to what they represent and what they stand for, and it's sad because sometimes when I write, I go, "You know, if you just looked into the Burmese situation, rather than scathing me, you could have wrote something positive because by the time this article is written, probably about nine children have been murdered -- and all you've accomplished is just throwing another rock at me and it really has no more impact on me." (laughs) I've been rocked the past 30 years. That's really the unfortunate thing is they don't look at the political ramifications of trying to be positive. They just go after what they think I represent -- which is hard-right core, jingoistic, you know, irrational savage instincts. And it's completely wrong. I try to walk the balance in this film. We show both sides.

RUSH: Well, congratulations on it. Let me ask. When I mention the reviews of the critics, it got a little rise out of you. How important is that? Maybe I'm wrong. Is it more important than I think to the success of your movies? You've got a franchise, here. Rambo is a franchise.

STALLONE: No, not really, Rush. It's like when people have a certain kind of an agenda that really goes, "Let's just be negative and not see things as they are," and that always bothered me. If at the end of every critique, just like when you have a child and you criticize a child, and say, "Okay, now here's the way we think you should do it. Here's the way we think you would be better." If they're going to be destructive in criticism, you should also be constructive at the very end, say, "Hey, why don't you try this?" It might not be right, but at least it gives a fair and balanced reporting. But the most important thing is I really wrote it for people to enjoy. It's an action film that also, hopefully, brings about a little awareness to a situation that's so sad.

The entire transcript can be found here: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/ ... guest.html

[weatherman90]

Get used to a country run with COMPETENCE.

Yes! Competence in the form of Mitt Romney.

No, goodbye to you, and your faulty leader, full of shit brained party.

Your time is over.

Can you give me one substantive issue that you disagree with conservatives on?