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A question ive been wanting to ask for a while.

On the few live versions of OTY ive heard Perry sing, he nevers sings the high pinched part in the chorus. OTY is one of the very few Journey sonfs were i prefer the recorded version because of that. Never understood why he didnt do it, surely it isnt because his vocal abilities were not good enough, particually on the Houston tour.

And then when i saw JSS performing it with Journey, JSS sang/attempted to do the high parts of the songs (and all in all did a great job getting most of those notes)

Anyways, dont know if this is a question or a statement .. just wanted to mention it.

you wanna hear an awesome version check out Jeremey and Frontiers version. I love the extras he adds to it. And if you ever see Frontiers live they will open their show with it and REALLY get you going!!! If you dont jump and scream during that check your heart beat. Really sets the tone for the whole show.

ScarabGator wrote:you wanna hear an awesome version check out Jeremey and Frontiers version. I love the extras he adds to it. And if you ever see Frontiers live they will open their show with it and REALLY get you going!!! If you dont jump and scream during that check your heart beat. Really sets the tone for the whole show.

While Only The Young is an awesome tune, I don't think it qualifies by any means as a "If you dont jump and scream during that check your heart beat" kind of song. Kick it off with Separate Ways, Escape, Be Good To Yourself, now THOSE would be songs to kick the evening off with a bang.

JSS couldn't sing Only The Young and that is why they dropped it from the set list not long after he joined the band - same with Be Good To Yourself.

texafana wrote:

ScarabGator wrote:you wanna hear an awesome version check out Jeremey and Frontiers version. I love the extras he adds to it. And if you ever see Frontiers live they will open their show with it and REALLY get you going!!! If you dont jump and scream during that check your heart beat. Really sets the tone for the whole show.

While Only The Young is an awesome tune, I don't think it qualifies by any means as a "If you dont jump and scream during that check your heart beat" kind of song. Kick it off with Separate Ways, Escape, Be Good To Yourself, now THOSE would be songs to kick the evening off with a bang.

Maybe its the fact OTY is my favorite Journey tune, I dont know. It gets me pumping.

Gibby wrote:JSS couldn't sing Only The Young and that is why they dropped it from the set list not long after he joined the band - same with Be Good To Yourself.

or maybe they wanted to make room for La Do Da, After the Fall, Open the Door , Mystery Train, Remember me,

He was probably singing it the way it was written. That high end stuff was just a studio trick where he 'layered' tons of vocals then picked whatever came out the best at the time.


later~

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

Gibby wrote:JSS couldn't sing Only The Young and that is why they dropped it from the set list not long after he joined the band - same with Be Good To Yourself.

or maybe they wanted to make room for La Do Da, After the Fall, Open the Door , Mystery Train, Remember me,

I think he could sing pretty good. I have to agree that they dropped it for some better and different songs....

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youkeepmewaiting wrote:A question ive been wanting to ask for a while.

On the few live versions of OTY ive heard Perry sing, he nevers sings the high pinched part in the chorus. OTY is one of the very few Journey sonfs were i prefer the recorded version because of that. Never understood why he didnt do it, surely it isnt because his vocal abilities were not good enough, particually on the Houston tour.

And then when i saw JSS performing it with Journey, JSS sang/attempted to do the high parts of the songs (and all in all did a great job getting most of those notes)

Anyways, dont know if this is a question or a statement .. just wanted to mention it.

OTY - has a lot of Perry's voice in the harmonizing and background vocals from the studio. It's almost impossible for him or any one to keep your breathing rythym for both parts at the same time . I thought Augeri did a great job with that one.

Gibby wrote:JSS couldn't sing Only The Young and that is why they dropped it from the set list not long after he joined the band - same with Be Good To Yourself.

Have to disagree on that one. Maybe they did drop it near the beginning considering that's a hard one to pull off. But he did an excellent job on Only The Young in his last show (Virginia) from the footage I've seen. And believe me, I'm a harsh critic when it comes to that song, probably my fave Journey/Perry song after Still They Ride. Wish it was on youtube to show ya.

here's probably the first bit of footage we all viewed of jss singing with journey...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLWMLGR9yuk

sounds pretty good to my ears... & very nice on my eyes. }:C)) steve perry's voice was deeper during the raised on radio & trail by fire era. jss nails these tunes especially!

more proof...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDtHpo3I5vc

soundcheck...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8T1XAdw9Tg

amazing! }=C)) jeff is smooth just like jif. }=C) xo

Deb wrote:

Gibby wrote:JSS couldn't sing Only The Young and that is why they dropped it from the set list not long after he joined the band - same with Be Good To Yourself.

Have to disagree on that one. Maybe they did drop it near the beginning considering that's a hard one to pull off. But he did an excellent job on Only The Young in his last show (Virginia) from the footage I've seen. And believe me, I'm a harsh critic when it comes to that song, probably my fave Journey/Perry song after Still They Ride. Wish it was on youtube to show ya.

treetopovskaya wrote:here's probably the first bit of footage we all viewed of jss singing with journey...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLWMLGR9yuk

sounds pretty good to my ears... & very nice on my eyes. }:C)) steve perry's voice was deeper during the raised on radio & trail by fire era. jss nails these tunes especially!

more proof...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDtHpo3I5vc

soundcheck...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8T1XAdw9Tg

amazing! }=C)) jeff is smooth just like jif. }=C) xo

Agreed.

Arkansas wrote:He was probably singing it the way it was written. That high end stuff was just a studio trick where he 'layered' tons of vocals then picked whatever came out the best at the time.


later~

There's a vocal-line in the mix that is ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS:

At the end of the song, he starts off on a D (next to middle C) on "on", then En for "ly", then G for "the" -

THEN hits an En AN OCTAVE ABOVE Middle C on the word "young" & sings C above Middle C on "can say" - clear as a bell.

D En G En C C
"On-ly the YOUNG can saaaaaay...."

Also, at the beginning - after the 1st Chorus - he sings a background "ooh" on D above Middle C.
(You may THINK it's a keyboard note, but no....alllll him. )

Gibby wrote:JSS couldn't sing Only The Young and that is why they dropped it from the set list not long after he joined the band - same with Be Good To Yourself.

same as "ESCAPE", same as "ASK THE LONELY"

T-TIME wrote:

Gibby wrote:JSS couldn't sing Only The Young and that is why they dropped it from the set list not long after he joined the band - same with Be Good To Yourself.

same as "ESCAPE", same as "ASK THE LONELY"

The couple times I saw JSS with Journey, he knocked "Escape" out of the water and was servicable on "Ask the Lonely." I never saw him do "Only the Young" or any ROR material though.

treetopovskaya wrote:steve perry's voice was deeper during the raised on radio & trail by fire era. jss nails these tunes especially!

more proof...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDtHpo3I5vc

soundcheck...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8T1XAdw9Tg

amazing! }=C)) jeff is smooth just like jif. }=C) xo

IMO, JSS was killer on the ROR material.

Never in a million years would I have thought somebody could put such feeling into that song IBAWY and pull it off with the passion Perry did. Gives me chills.

TRAGChick wrote:[then En for "ly",

En... what is En? sounds spanish..

Gibby wrote:JSS couldn't sing Only The Young and that is why they dropped it from the set list not long after he joined the band - same with Be Good To Yourself.

Good to know you were there to know this info 1st hand...how utterly ridiculous to say I can't sing any of those songs, why would I have been brought in if any were in question? Do some homework (not high I sang with Journey, how high I CAN sing period!).

JSS wrote:

Gibby wrote:JSS couldn't sing Only The Young and that is why they dropped it from the set list not long after he joined the band - same with Be Good To Yourself.

Good to know you were there to know this info 1st hand...how utterly ridiculous to say I can't sing any of those songs, why would I have been brought in if any were in question? Do some homework (not high I sang with Journey, how high I CAN sing period!).

Jeff, whats up bro????? You are the man regardless of what happened with Journey!!! I have just been getting into some of your stuff and you are incredible!!! I know now why so many of these folks really went to bat for you when that stuff happened.

Gibby got punked.

Saint John wrote:Gibby got punked.

dang man!! no foolin!!

I get pissed off when I read the negative comments on youtube. I just can't help but respond. Stupid fucks don't know shit.

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

TRAGChick wrote:[then En for "ly",

En... what is En? sounds spanish..

E-natural.

Instead of E-flat.

TRAGChick wrote:

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

TRAGChick wrote:[then En for "ly",

En... what is En? sounds spanish..

E-natural.

Instead of E-flat.

oh BULL!!! gosh ... natural??!!! ..what kinda singer terminology is this.. i should have taken a class...

ill tell you something else.. theres NOTHING natural about Eb!

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

TRAGChick wrote:

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

TRAGChick wrote:[then En for "ly",

En... what is En? sounds spanish..

E-natural.

Instead of E-flat.

oh BULL!!! gosh ... natural??!!! ..what kinda singer terminology is this.. i should have taken a class...

ill tell you something else.. theres NOTHING natural about Eb!

En is the WHITE key; Eb is the BLACK.

TRAGChick wrote:

Arkansas wrote:He was probably singing it the way it was written. That high end stuff was just a studio trick where he 'layered' tons of vocals then picked whatever came out the best at the time.


later~

There's a vocal-line in the mix that is ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS:

At the end of the song, he starts off on a D (next to middle C) on "on", then En for "ly", then G for "the" -

THEN hits an En AN OCTAVE ABOVE Middle C on the word "young" & sings C above Middle C on "can say" - clear as a bell.

D En G En C C
"On-ly the YOUNG can saaaaaay...."

Also, at the beginning - after the 1st Chorus - he sings a background "ooh" on D above Middle C.
(You may THINK it's a keyboard note, but no....alllll him. )

wow, thanks, Nora. Always enjoyed your analysis. I'm going to give the song a listen again now.

TRAGChick wrote:

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

TRAGChick wrote:

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

TRAGChick wrote:[then En for "ly",

En... what is En? sounds spanish..

E-natural.

Instead of E-flat.

oh BULL!!! gosh ... natural??!!! ..what kinda singer terminology is this.. i should have taken a class...

ill tell you something else.. theres NOTHING natural about Eb!

En is the WHITE key; Eb is the BLACK.

oh,,, well yea.... of course..

btw.. all the videos ive ever seen of EVH .. he really really likes those black keys..

TRAGChick wrote:Eb is the BLACK.

Why Eb gotta be black?

annie89509 wrote:

TRAGChick wrote:

Arkansas wrote:He was probably singing it the way it was written. That high end stuff was just a studio trick where he 'layered' tons of vocals then picked whatever came out the best at the time.


later~

There's a vocal-line in the mix that is ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS:

At the end of the song, he starts off on a D (next to middle C) on "on", then En for "ly", then G for "the" -

THEN hits an En AN OCTAVE ABOVE Middle C on the word "young" & sings C above Middle C on "can say" - clear as a bell.

D En G En C C
"On-ly the YOUNG can saaaaaay...."

Also, at the beginning - after the 1st Chorus - he sings a background "ooh" on D above Middle C.
(You may THINK it's a keyboard note, but no....alllll him. )

wow, thanks, Nora. Always enjoyed your analysis. I'm going to give the song a listen again now.

Me too, but would enjoy it more if she would show us her titties.

Rockindeano wrote:

annie89509 wrote:

TRAGChick wrote:

Arkansas wrote:He was probably singing it the way it was written. That high end stuff was just a studio trick where he 'layered' tons of vocals then picked whatever came out the best at the time.


later~

There's a vocal-line in the mix that is ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS:

At the end of the song, he starts off on a D (next to middle C) on "on", then En for "ly", then G for "the" -

THEN hits an En AN OCTAVE ABOVE Middle C on the word "young" & sings C above Middle C on "can say" - clear as a bell.

D En G En C C
"On-ly the YOUNG can saaaaaay...."

Also, at the beginning - after the 1st Chorus - he sings a background "ooh" on D above Middle C.
(You may THINK it's a keyboard note, but no....alllll him. )

wow, thanks, Nora. Always enjoyed your analysis. I'm going to give the song a listen again now.

Me too, but would enjoy it more if she would show us her titties.

Deano, Deano