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needs a fucking raise. Here's the latest rendition of DSB. Miles ahead of where he was just a month or two ago. This is really good.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=QRcoF79GfOk

I opined that once he was taken out of the taglish and tagalog that he has to speak when he is in the PI, unless he is talking to Fil-Ams, he will speak very good english.

It's more that he just assimilated what is needed to be the very best frontman that he can.

ttango1 wrote:8)
I opined that once he was taken out of the taglish and tagalog that he has to speak when he is in the PI, unless he is talking to Fil-Ams, he will speak very good english.

It's more that he just assimilated what is needed to be the very best frontman that he can.

Hauntingly familiar rhetoric. Same thing someone told me a few months back. Hmmm. I agree with your assertions, however.

He still sucks, bad imitation, you must be deaf or drunk

stevew2 wrote:He still sucks, bad imitation, you must be deaf or drunk

Considering I can tell the difference between WHO ACTUALLY SINGS FOR JOURNEY as opposed to someone who just copies Journey, I'm thinking that there are whole lot more of us who don't frequent forums that will support. Vegas is going to rock.

I await your long soliloquy but hey....isn't it funny that you can only write no more than 3 sentences at a time W2?
Some people might call that divine intervention.

Oh and SJ, if I'm echoing your sentiments. BRA-fucking-VO It's good to be more right than all the people who said earlier that this is a failed experiment from the get-go.

stevew2 wrote:He still sucks, bad imitation, you must be deaf or drunk

Imitation of what? He doesn't sound like anyone I know of. wtf?

texafana wrote:

stevew2 wrote:He still sucks, bad imitation, you must be deaf or drunk

Imitation of what? He doesn't sound like anyone I know of. wtf?

Surviver version of Journey

I'll give him credit. He sounds more like Perry than anyone since Perry. Since Perry isn't up to the gig, Arnel is. It's all good.

stevew2 wrote:He still sucks, bad imitation, you must be deaf or drunk

C'mon Steve, that's ridonculous. Are you even listening to these, or just thinking as your told??
Don't even speak of imitations either.

Rhiannon wrote:

stevew2 wrote:He still sucks, bad imitation, you must be deaf or drunk

C'mon Steve, that's ridonculous. Are you even listening to these, or just thinking as your told??
Don't even speak of imitations either.

Ha ha. It must be contagious.

Saint John wrote:

Rhiannon wrote:

stevew2 wrote:He still sucks, bad imitation, you must be deaf or drunk

C'mon Steve, that's ridonculous. Are you even listening to these, or just thinking as your told??
Don't even speak of imitations either.

Ha ha. It must be contagious.

Shit. ONE grammatical error at 4:30am and I lose all credibility.
FYI, riDONCulous is a pseudoword. Ask around, old man.

stevew2 wrote:He still sucks, bad imitation, you must be deaf or drunk

Mmmmm....your rhetoric is becoming more and more familiar with every post. Mmmmm..... I say enough, ok?

I Gave it a listen, and thats scary how much he sounds the part. He will do the songs justice and i guess thats what the band wanted.

im still pissed off with them and probably wont be buying any tickets and ill just download the New cd..they dont deserve my money anymore.

Yes im still bitter.

but just an opinion.

stevew2 wrote:He still sucks, bad imitation, you must be deaf or drunk

Are you kidding me?!? He nailed just about every note on that rendition. If you don't like the guy personally for whatever reason, fine, but seriously get your ears checked if you don't think the dude is a good singer.

He's excellent - no doubt about it - but how about stuff he hasn't studied & trained for years..?


John -

FinnFreak wrote:He's excellent - no doubt about it - but how about stuff he hasn't studied & trained for years..?


John -

Great point(s). Time will tell.

personally i think he will sound great on recorded material..
My concern is more to do with stage persona and whether his live performances will be believable?

For me, from the limited amount i've seen of him on the internet, he lacks stage charisma.

but thats a personal opinion and time will tell....

I think Arnel will shine on the recordings maybe more so than the live performances, but that could change after getting accustomed to the stage after a while.

Does Not Impress me at all....all this noise for another fuckin tribute band...way to funny

wildone wrote:Does Not Impress me at all....all this noise for another fuckin tribute band...way to funny

How does a new album and video relegate them to "tribute band" status, numb nuts?

Jeremey wrote:I think Arnel will shine on the recordings maybe more so than the live performances, but that could change after getting accustomed to the stage after a while.

that is true.. i could be wrong and its all speculation at the moment. I think cause music is a very emotive subject then in a live situation the delivery is a huge percentage of the whole performance.
I think also with Journey's recent bad P.R, it is pushing forward the image that Arnel is just a 'voice' to suit the music so he has a big task ahead to calm the doubters.. (me being one of them)

I personally have very little respect for the Journey 'circus' but i do wish Arnel well in his stay with Journey as for him im sure its a dream come true!

Saint John wrote:needs a fucking raise. Here's the latest rendition of DSB. Miles ahead of where he was just a month or two ago. This is really good.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=QRcoF79GfOk

Indeed,his vocal progress is obvious.The other 2 videos from that night are also impressive...
In my ears,what makes Arnel fit for Journey besides his natural tenor timbre,is the way the notes come out effortlessly,with power and always pitch perfect.
That was Perry's God given talent and the reason why the Journey catalogue was so damn hard on the previous singers.

I think you people going to Vegas will be dealing with the Dropped Jaw Syndrome.

As I wrote in the thread "Should Journey Have Changed Their Name?"...

One thing that bothers me, is his pretty much perfect covers of Perry's performances.

I'd think, that when a new e.g. guitarist is brought onto the stage, that guitarist usually wants
to show his craftsmanship by not only sounding as good as his predecessor, but to wipe the
slate clean by delivering a unique performance showcasing his particular talent and style...
- NOT copying exactly what has been done before.

I know some guitarists would consider it an insult asked to emulate the previous guitarist.

Critics could have some fun too... so, for Journey's credibility's sake - what's left of it - let's hope
Arnel Pireda has professional pride enough to showcase some vocal acrobatic stylings of his own.


John -

Saint John wrote:

wildone wrote:Does Not Impress me at all....all this noise for another fuckin tribute band...way to funny

How does a new album and video relegate them to "tribute band" status, numb nuts?

It isn't out yet dumbass and remeber what neal said it was the perry sound they wanted which = tribute band.... moron They Just need to change there name to "The Perry Wannabies"

wildone wrote:

Saint John wrote:

wildone wrote:Does Not Impress me at all....all this noise for another fuckin tribute band...way to funny

How does a new album and video relegate them to "tribute band" status, numb nuts?

It isn't out yet dumbass and remeber what neal said it was the perry sound they wanted which = tribute band.... moron They Just need to change there name to "The Perry Wannabies"

Tribute band=cover songs. New album=original music. And learn how to spell "remember."

The voice is Jacob's voice, but the hands are like Esau's feet..?


John -

FinnFreak wrote:As I wrote in the thread "Should Journey Have Changed Their Name?"...

One thing that bothers me, is his pretty much perfect covers of Perry's performances.

I'd think, that when a new e.g. guitarist is brought onto the stage, that guitarist usually wants
to show his craftsmanship by not only sounding as good as his predecessor, but to wipe the
slate clean by delivering a unique performance showcasing his particular talent and style
- NOT copying exactly what has been done before.

I know some guitarists would consider it an insult asked to emulate the previous guitarist.

Critics could have some fun too... so, for Journey's credibility's sake - what's left of it - let's hope
Arnel Pireda has professional pride enough to showcase some vocal acrobatics of his own.


John -

In Journey's case,any changes of the original vocal line of the hits would be a mistake. All the notes and the vocal inflexions are SO deeply etched in peoples minds that they are expecting each detail to be there.
When they sing along,they do it automatically following the classic (Perry) vocal line.
Do I make sense?
Happened to me when I saw JSS with Journey - he respected all the vocal acrobatics of the classic recordings and it was such a smooth nice sing along experience.

Just to get a better idea of what I mean - I heard that many years ago Eric Clapton changed the solo from Layla in a concert and he was booed.People wanted to hear that solo,note for note.They were disappointed by the changes.

Ya know,when it ain't broken why fix it?

...

Saint John wrote:

wildone wrote:

Saint John wrote:

wildone wrote:Does Not Impress me at all....all this noise for another fuckin tribute band...way to funny

How does a new album and video relegate them to "tribute band" status, numb nuts?

It isn't out yet dumbass and remeber what neal said it was the perry sound they wanted which = tribute band.... moron They Just need to change there name to "The Perry Wannabies"

Tribute band=cover songs. New album=original music. And learn how to spell "remember."

lmao yah will see how far that new album is going to take them ....maybe around the block and sorry I miss spelled a word...i forgot you get off on little things yah arnels there for an album...but he's really there for the dirty dozen ....like all the singers before him have been ....(well except jss that was there only hope for originality )Hmmm I wonder when the next Lumpia Festival is????
well maybe if I look at there tour dates I can find that out ....

*Laura wrote:

FinnFreak wrote:As I wrote in the thread "Should Journey Have Changed Their Name?"...

One thing that bothers me, is his pretty much perfect covers of Perry's performances.

I'd think, that when a new e.g. guitarist is brought onto the stage, that guitarist usually wants
to show his craftsmanship by not only sounding as good as his predecessor, but to wipe the
slate clean by delivering a unique performance showcasing his particular talent and style
- NOT copying exactly what has been done before.

I know some guitarists would consider it an insult asked to emulate the previous guitarist.

Critics could have some fun too... so, for Journey's credibility's sake - what's left of it - let's hope
Arnel Pireda has professional pride enough to showcase some vocal acrobatics of his own.


John -

In Journey's case,any changes of the original vocal line of the hits would be a mistake. All the notes and the vocal inflexions are SO deeply etched in peoples minds that they are expecting each detail to be there.
When they sing along,they do it automatically following the classic (Perry) vocal line.
Do I make sense?
Happened to me when I saw JSS with Journey - he respected all the vocal acrobatics of the classic recordings and it was such a smooth nice sing along experience.

Just to get a better idea of what I mean - I heard that many years ago Eric Clapton changed the solo from Layla in a concert and he was booed.People wanted to hear that solo,note for note.They were disappointed by the changes.

Ya know,when it ain't broken why fix it?

Adds quite a bit of pressure on the quality of the new material, I'd say...


John -

Saint John wrote:needs a fucking raise. Here's the latest rendition of DSB. Miles ahead of where he was just a month or two ago. This is really good.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=QRcoF79GfOk

Good, yes. Not perfect, but then again who is? Not even Perry in his prime.

The diction seems better although some notes are nowhere near perfect pitch it's still impressive how he belts the high notes with his normal voice where Augeri for instance needed to use falsetto.

I think they don't get much better than this, except maybe Perry 25 years ago.

One thing I do miss a little (maybe due to having to compete with a loud band) is the soul and emotion.

I'm curious to be hearing the new album.