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Just curious...I'm gonna go check youtube right now.

jrnyjetster wrote::?: Just curious...I'm gonna go check youtube right now.

Considering the first show isn't until tomorrow I'm gonna guess no.

Saint John wrote:

jrnyjetster wrote::?: Just curious...I'm gonna go check youtube right now.

Considering the first show isn't until tomorrow I'm gonna guess no.

Yeah but it is already tomorrow in Australia!!

Hey El Batto - we need clips and winning lottery numbers, por favor!!

Cat

Saint John wrote:
Considering the first show isn't until tomorrow I'm gonna guess no.

Ooops... That shows you how much I've been keeping track of their tour schedule...but I do know they're doing multiple dates in Chile...so I figured they must've played at least one show by now...oh well...let's wait and see then.

jrnyjetster wrote:

Saint John wrote:
Considering the first show isn't until tomorrow I'm gonna guess no.

Ooops... That shows you how much I've been keeping track of their tour schedule...but I do know they're doing multiple dates in Chile...so I figured they must've played at least one show by now...oh well...let's wait and see then.

You weren't too far off, actually!!! They were supposed to have a show last night, but it "fell through" according to a moderator at the official site.

Saint John wrote:

jrnyjetster wrote:

Saint John wrote:
Considering the first show isn't until tomorrow I'm gonna guess no.

Ooops... That shows you how much I've been keeping track of their tour schedule...but I do know they're doing multiple dates in Chile...so I figured they must've played at least one show by now...oh well...let's wait and see then.

You weren't too far off, actually!!! They were supposed to have a show last night, but it "fell through" according to a moderator at the official site.

The same thing happened in Feb of Augeri's last year in the band in Chile

Saint John wrote:
You weren't too far off, actually!!! They were supposed to have a show last night, but it "fell through" according to a moderator at the official site.

Why did it "fall through"? Not enough tickets sold? Somebody in the band ill? DETAILS please...

jrnyjetster wrote:

Saint John wrote:
You weren't too far off, actually!!! They were supposed to have a show last night, but it "fell through" according to a moderator at the official site.

Why did it "fall through"? Not enough tickets sold? Somebody in the band ill? DETAILS please...

What fell through was just a show that they were doing while they're down there. The big festival that they are playing in is still ON, plus a few more additional shows. The show that they were going to do with Augeri a few years ago but had to cancel was the big festival (Vina del Mar, I think). That festival was to be broadcast over the internet that year, so maybe it'll be again this year.

The Vina Del Mar festival or whatever it's called I think is broadcast on TV down there. I have bootleg DVD's of Europe in 1990 and Toto in 2004, so there's a very good chance Journey's set will be televised.

Red13JoePa wrote:

Saint John wrote:

jrnyjetster wrote:

Saint John wrote:
Considering the first show isn't until tomorrow I'm gonna guess no.

Ooops... That shows you how much I've been keeping track of their tour schedule...but I do know they're doing multiple dates in Chile...so I figured they must've played at least one show by now...oh well...let's wait and see then.

You weren't too far off, actually!!! They were supposed to have a show last night, but it "fell through" according to a moderator at the official site.

The same thing happened in Feb of Augeri's last year in the band in Chile

Shitdip, THAT show in Chile with SA was cancelled because of 'Gate. Had they played that show, a televised show, which would have made it to youtube, and their careers would be over. Flat out over with.

The Vina Del Mar show will be sure televised by Canal 13 Chile.

From what their site says,it will be broadcasted every night at 10PM their time.

http://www.canal13.cl/

Something should end up on Youtube this week.

Well!They have live streaming ("en vivo" on the menu bar at the top of the page).Just watched a few minutes of a talk show about VdM,looks like there are some press conferences going on today.
I guess it's a possiblity that Journey's show will be streamed live on Thursday.

Rockindeano wrote:Shitdip, THAT show in Chile with SA was cancelled because of 'Gate. Had they played that show, a televised show, which would have made it to youtube, and their careers would be over. Flat out over with.

I used to think that way....I'm not so sure anymore.
Toto played there in '04 and had no scruples about Bobby noticeably lipping to Africa (yes, he did and still does - fuck you steve lukather).
Also, keep in mind Journey released an official FITH video to VH1-Classics where Augeri lipped.
Over the course of his tenure, they even went ahead and filmed TWO unreleased dvds where lipping was involved.
They simply don't care, and most likely still don't.

Jeff came on here and pledged never to lip. I have talked to Jeremey on and off for years and would like to think he wouldn't.
Where is Arnel's solemn pledge to never fuck us again?

Jeff Soto mended fences with this fanbase, but he is gone.
Until we hear something from Neal that even slightly approximates an apology, I say don't give the bastards a dime.

Even if it means facing criminal prosecution, I strongly encourage everyone here to consider illegally downloading the next album.

Lookie here. Fuck I am honoured at your presence assdick.

Dude, a few things to think about.

Yeah Bobby Kimball lips more than Shaquille Oneal putting on chapstick, but who gives a fuck about Toto? That's just it, Tota is a helluva lot lower on the food chain than Journey was and will ever be.

Secondly, yeah Augeri lipped at Buffalo Chip, but by that time, he so good, perhaps they thought we wouldn't catch it, or didn't have cable.

I forgot your other question, but I will say long time no see. This board is 100% better with you here than away.

I think you might be right about "Africa" but the rest of Bobby's lead vocals are live. Trust me, he's a belter, and his singing style works and fails at about a 50/50 ratio at most shows.

The choruses are sketchy though...Bobby's voice doesn't really blend, so the choruses are a sea of tapes, sadly, but the lead vox are all live. I saw them 5 times on the last tour and Bobby hit his share of bum notes (and forgot the fucking words to Hold The Line at one of the Chicago shows, despite the 3 teleprompters )

CatEyes wrote:

Saint John wrote:

jrnyjetster wrote::?: Just curious...I'm gonna go check youtube right now.

Considering the first show isn't until tomorrow I'm gonna guess no.

Yeah but it is already tomorrow in Australia!!

Hey El Batto - we need clips and winning lottery numbers, por favor!!

Cat

12, 7, 35, 17, 23 & 2.

And when it streams audio - IF it actually does - I'll record the audio

Andrew wrote:

CatEyes wrote:

Saint John wrote:

jrnyjetster wrote::?: Just curious...I'm gonna go check youtube right now.

Considering the first show isn't until tomorrow I'm gonna guess no.

Yeah but it is already tomorrow in Australia!!

Hey El Batto - we need clips and winning lottery numbers, por favor!!

Cat

12, 7, 35, 17, 23 & 2.

And when it streams audio - IF it actually does - I'll record the audio

You're a good man.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Also, keep in mind Journey released an official FITH video to VH1-Classics where Augeri lipped.

Yes, they did.
Damn fine video, too I have it. I'd say at least 80 of the vocals on that video seemed to be the studio vocal, though.

I remember the first time I heard the Greek boot thinking upon hearing FITH and THPIYH thinking "Wow.
Talk about NAILING it."

But your point is right, though.
The combination of them releasing a 4/5ths live promo video for FITH AND the new recent Chile cancellation leads me to believe it's something down there, maybe administrative not 'Gate that pulled the plug on Chile in '06.

Andrew wrote:

CatEyes wrote:

Saint John wrote:

jrnyjetster wrote::?: Just curious...I'm gonna go check youtube right now.

Considering the first show isn't until tomorrow I'm gonna guess no.

Yeah but it is already tomorrow in Australia!!

Hey El Batto - we need clips and winning lottery numbers, por favor!!

Cat

12, 7, 35, 17, 23 & 2.

And when it streams audio - IF it actually does - I'll record the audio

Thanks, Drew!!!

Will play for Saturday - we share of course!!!

Cat

Rockindeano wrote:Lookie here. Fuck I am honoured at your presence assdick.

Dude, a few things to think about.

Yeah Bobby Kimball lips more than Shaquille Oneal putting on chapstick, but who gives a fuck about Toto? That's just it, Tota is a helluva lot lower on the food chain than Journey was and will ever be.
...

Sorry Deano...gonna have to "smack" you on that one.

Pure, utter, ignorance. Toto is a "rung up" on the food chain ladder compared to Journey these days...especially in Europe.

But, you're still kinda cool in an unusual sort of way...think it's your Avatar. It just ROCKS!

Tomulator wrote:Sorry Deano...gonna have to "smack" you on that one.

Pure, utter, ignorance. Toto is a "rung up" on the food chain ladder compared to Journey these days...especially in Europe.

In Europe?


I'm going to leave you alone but prepare to have your ears pinned back when RockingDean sees this.

TNC is in da house.

Red13JoePa wrote:

Tomulator wrote:Sorry Deano...gonna have to "smack" you on that one.

Pure, utter, ignorance. Toto is a "rung up" on the food chain ladder compared to Journey these days...especially in Europe.

In Europe?


I'm going to leave you alone but prepare to have your ears pinned back when RockingDean sees this.

You have no idea how frightened I am...

Andrew wrote:

CatEyes wrote:

Saint John wrote:

jrnyjetster wrote::?: Just curious...I'm gonna go check youtube right now.

Considering the first show isn't until tomorrow I'm gonna guess no.

Yeah but it is already tomorrow in Australia!!

Hey El Batto - we need clips and winning lottery numbers, por favor!!

Cat

12, 7, 35, 17, 23 & 2.

And when it streams audio - IF it actually does - I'll record the audio

andrew it streams ,but it kept stopping after a couple of minutes and i had to reboot it last night while watching earth, wind and fire. i also get tvchile on my cable so i will be taping it.

Tomulator wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Lookie here. Fuck I am honoured at your presence assdick.

Dude, a few things to think about.

Yeah Bobby Kimball lips more than Shaquille Oneal putting on chapstick, but who gives a fuck about Toto? That's just it, Tota is a helluva lot lower on the food chain than Journey was and will ever be.
...

Sorry Deano...gonna have to "smack" you on that one.

Pure, utter, ignorance. Toto is a "rung up" on the food chain ladder compared to Journey these days...especially in Europe.

But, you're still kinda cool in an unusual sort of way...think it's your Avatar. It just ROCKS!

You must be joking. I don't give a shit if Toto is in Europe, Los Angeles or the North Fucking Pole, they would never headline over Journey. Lukather is great. Partied with him and dig him, but you cannot be serious.

Kimball besides lipping, sucks, like you said.

As for Toto, such a great catalog. Seriously, Africa, Hold the line and Rosanna. Man, I am just blown away. That blows Journey's catalog away!

You Toto fans are seriously delusional.

just an FYI on Toto...

these guys are extremely well-respected...only a musician can seriously appreciate them to the nth degree...if you like them or not, that's your preference, but this band is always bringing their A game live....

I've seen them live every time they've played here for the past 20 years....and I've never seen BK lip. Never. Not saying he hasn't done it, but I have never seen it, and I would easily spot it out. He's a monster vocalist, but I will admit he's lost some of his range over the last 2 years...and it was noticeable in their live performances. Hey, the guys getting up there in age...what would you expect. I'll never hold that against him.

Chad

Breath, I have talked the band myself. I know what they do, have done et al.

It's no biggie, everybody does it, but you do know that you can't see someone lip. Fuck, Augeri had millions fooled for 6 months.

Rockindeano wrote:

Tomulator wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Lookie here. Fuck I am honoured at your presence assdick.

Dude, a few things to think about.

Yeah Bobby Kimball lips more than Shaquille Oneal putting on chapstick, but who gives a fuck about Toto? That's just it, Tota is a helluva lot lower on the food chain than Journey was and will ever be.
...

Sorry Deano...gonna have to "smack" you on that one.

Pure, utter, ignorance. Toto is a "rung up" on the food chain ladder compared to Journey these days...especially in Europe.

But, you're still kinda cool in an unusual sort of way...think it's your Avatar. It just ROCKS!

You must be joking. I don't give a shit if Toto is in Europe, Los Angeles or the North Fucking Pole, they would never headline over Journey. Lukather is great. Partied with him and dig him, but you cannot be serious.

Kimball besides lipping, sucks, like you said.

As for Toto, such a great catalog. Seriously, Africa, Hold the line and Rosanna. Man, I am just blown away. That blows Journey's catalog away!

You Toto fans are seriously delusional.

One question...

Which band does bigger numbers in Europe?



BK doesn't , as a rule, lipsync...never has...never will.

You partied with Luke???? Do tell!!!!!

chad wrote:just an FYI on Toto...

these guys are extremely well-respected...only a musician can seriously appreciate them to the nth degree...if you like them or not, that's your preference, but this band is always bringing their A game live....

I've seen them live every time they've played here for the past 20 years....and I've never seen BK lip. Never. Not saying he hasn't done it, but I have never seen it, and I would easily spot it out. He's a monster vocalist, but I will admit he's lost some of his range over the last 2 years...and it was noticeable in their live performances. Hey, the guys getting up there in age...what would you expect. I'll never hold that against him.

Chad

Taped background vox, touched up lead vox after the show before going to DVD, etc , etc. ZZZZZzzzz.....

WalrusOct9 wrote:I think you might be right about "Africa" but the rest of Bobby's lead vocals are live. Trust me, he's a belter, and his singing style works and fails at about a 50/50 ratio at most shows.

The choruses are sketchy though...Bobby's voice doesn't really blend, so the choruses are a sea of tapes, sadly, but the lead vox are all live. I saw them 5 times on the last tour and Bobby hit his share of bum notes (and forgot the fucking words to Hold The Line at one of the Chicago shows, despite the 3 teleprompters )

He is singing live....I sang onstage with them here in Chicago...and the leads were all live.....good or bad, it was live, not memorex.....and to me it was all good.....

JV