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Is Journey back with Sony....?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:31 am
by jrnyjetster
:?: ...or have they signed with a NEW label? I figured since they got big time producer Kevin Shirley again for this new CD, a big time label must surely be involved? Is this Wal-Mart deal we've been reading about, confirmed? Does Wal-Mart actually have their own label, by the way?? I don't shop there, so I wouldn't know. I know the Eagles signed an exclusive agreement with them and their new album has sold pretty well, I understand.

Re: Is Journey back with Sony....?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:33 am
by Jeremey
jrnyjetster wrote::?: ...or have they signed with a NEW label? I figured since they got big time producer Kevin Shirley again for this new CD, a big time label must surely be involved? Is this Wal-Mart deal we've been reading about, confirmed? Does Wal-Mart actually have their own label, by the way?? I don't shop there, so I wouldn't know. I know the Eagles signed an exclusive agreement with them and their new album has sold pretty well, I understand.


The new recording was financed by WalMart, I don't believe they have a label. I think it is being released exclusively through Wal Mart and Sams Club just like the Eagles record, which was released as "The Eagles Recording Company" or something similar, so Wal Mart footed the bill.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:38 am
by Arkansas
I once read where the Eagles sold 700,000 in the first week or so.
I love this idea. Record labels and record stores were just a necessary evil.
I think this an interesting debate though. Is WM now a label, or just a distributor?


later~

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:39 am
by Saint John
Arkansas wrote: Is WM now a label, or just a distributor?




Basically, both.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:31 am
by Andrew
Not back with Sony.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:19 am
by youkeepmewaiting
So then question,

if this album is only being sold in Walmart how is it going to be sold around the world? Surely on the internet?

ASDA (Britains big supermarket) is owned by Walmart but i cant see them stocking the new CD

hmm

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:21 am
by Arkansas
youkeepmewaiting wrote:So then question,

if this album is only being sold in Walmart how is it going to be sold around the world? Surely on the internet?

ASDA (Britains big supermarket) is owned by Walmart but i cant see them stocking the new CD

hmm


If this deal is real, then I'd say just look for wherever The Eagles last album sold.


later~

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 7:38 am
by yulog
The Eagles and Journey are on different playing fields, you cant believe they are going to see even a 1/4 of what the eagles sold first week(and i'm being nice)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:33 am
by Arkansas
Oh sure. No doubt. If Journey sells even 100k, it should be considered it a success.


later~

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 8:54 am
by ProgRocker53
I'm gonna go out there and say the new album will sell at least 300,000 stateside and about 500,000 worldwide.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:01 am
by Stoneyman
I think the Eagles financed the cd themselves, and Walmart made a deal to release it exclusively. There may be an agreement where Walmart would have exclusive sale rights for a specific time, and after that they could distribute it through other avenues.

Question is, can you get a copy of the Eagles new cd anywhere else? I bought mine at Walmart.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:08 am
by youkeepmewaiting
Stoneyman wrote:I think the Eagles financed the cd themselves, and Walmart made a deal to release it exclusively. There may be an agreement where Walmart would have exclusive sale rights for a specific time, and after that they could distribute it through other avenues.

Question is, can you get a copy of the Eagles new cd anywhere else? I bought mine at Walmart.


The deal must of be exclusive to USA. In Britain the disk was sold in a variety of stores.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:32 am
by Andrew
Eagles CD was licensed per territory. USA was WalMart, elsewhere it was mroe traditional methods. Not all record labels are as badly run as the US majors.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:01 am
by Stoneyman
Andrew wrote:Eagles CD was licensed per territory. USA was WalMart, elsewhere it was mroe traditional methods. Not all record labels are as badly run as the US majors.


Thanks for the info Andrew.

Well now that Journey has become suddenly more "international" the Walmart deal would really only help them here (US). It makes some sense in that Journey hasnt really been selling too much post Perry cd's here in the US, and the Walmart exposure could help considerably. Many classic bands are having the same problem selling new music.

Are these overseas shows a ploy to garner excitement and perhaps a distribution deal? No matter what, Journey needs to find a new way to sell music. The first step is too make some damn good music. Time will tell.