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As I noticed that some of you guys still debate about Journey's new frontman Arnel Pineda, whether he is good or not. I see some mixed answers. some say he's great and some say he's not. well, this is more like a lemons and oranges thing. however, one thing is certain. the people who thinks he is good will remain to believe in him, while the non-believers will either stay just as they are or will become converts.

as far as Arnel Pineda is concerned, there are reasons why he's Journey's frontman and not Jeremey Hunsicker (who is also a very good singer). the reason that there is much fuzz about him. it is the reason that some of you non-believers give a damn commenting and posting topics (whether positive or negative remarks) about the guy and not the other person Jeremey. He is "JOURNEY". otherwise, if Arnel is really indeed a nobody, I bet all of you wont even waste a second of your time, criticizing the person.

now, if some of you guys are still bitter about Jeremey not getting the gig, you are always free to follow him around wherever he performs or goes (even him taking a dump, if you like). you can always post something about him if he was that interesting to talk about, right? (which ain't most of you are doing).

I'm sure there are a lot of reasons why Jeremey wasn't selected. maybe Neil tried to contact him but Jeremey's ego got the best out of him and said to Neil to go fuck himself, since he's better without them Journey (which makes him a dick) or demand for royalty and his high talent fee that would make the band dead broke. maybe he auditioned but wasn't that convincing enough to be Journey material. probably he faltered or completely sucked on singing other Journey songs which he never or seldom covered (due to difficulty and does not quite add up to his repertoire). probably his body built and face is not that marketable nor adds up to the band's image. well, whatever the Jeremey's reasons are, the most important thing is what convinced Neil and company to hire Arnel, make a truly skeptical american embassy consul a believer (which ain't easy if you ain't american) and 15,000 (monster) Chileans consider and recognize Arnel as the new voice of Journey and clearly deserves such recognition.

to the Journey fans who digged the new Journey, it is nice that you enjoyed the performance and the show. and to the Journey fans who are still stucked in the past era, you can always spend your time in solitaire, crying your heart out (which I doubt that you will do, instead will continue to watch and critize the new Journey). but just remember, that as long as you keep on posting,

Arnel and Journey will always be thankful for giving a shit of your time.

journeypower wrote:As I noticed that some of you guys still debate about Journey's new frontman Arnel Pineda, whether he is good or not. I see some mixed answers. some say he's great and some say he's not. well, this is more like a lemons and oranges thing. however, one thing is certain. the people who thinks he is good will remain to believe in him, while the non-believers will either stay just as they are or will become converts.

as far as Arnel Pineda is concerned, there are reasons why he's Journey's frontman and not Jeremey Hunsicker (who is also a very good singer). the reason that there is much fuzz about him. it is the reason that some of you non-believers give a damn commenting and posting topics (whether positive or negative remarks) about the guy and not the other person Jeremey. He is "JOURNEY". otherwise, if Arnel is really indeed a nobody, I bet all of you wont even waste a second of your time, criticizing the person.

now, if some of you guys are still bitter about Jeremey not getting the gig, you are always free to follow him around wherever he performs or goes (even him taking a dump, if you like). you can always post something about him if he was that interesting to talk about, right? (which ain't most of you are doing).

I'm sure there are a lot of reasons why Jeremey wasn't selected. maybe Neil tried to contact him but Jeremey's ego got the best out of him and said to Neil to go fuck himself, since he's better without them Journey (which makes him a dick) or demand for royalty and his high talent fee that would make the band dead broke. maybe he auditioned but wasn't that convincing enough to be Journey material. probably he faltered or completely sucked on singing other Journey songs which he never or seldom covered (due to difficulty and does not quite add up to his repertoire). probably his body built and face is not that marketable nor adds up to the band's image. well, whatever the Jeremey's reasons are, the most important thing is what convinced Neil and company to hire Arnel, make a truly skeptical american embassy consul a believer (which ain't easy if you ain't american) and 15,000 (monster) Chileans consider and recognize Arnel as the new voice of Journey and clearly deserves such recognition.

to the Journey fans who digged the new Journey, it is nice that you enjoyed the performance and the show. and to the Journey fans who are still stucked in the past era, you can always spend your time in solitaire, crying your heart out (which I doubt that you will do, instead will continue to watch and critize the new Journey). but just remember, that as long as you keep on posting,

Arnel and Journey will always be thankful for giving a shit of your time.

Interesting debut. Strap on your seat belt...it might get even more interesting...not just content but people wondering who you are.


later~

Arkansas wrote:

journeypower wrote:As I noticed that some of you guys still debate about Journey's new frontman Arnel Pineda, whether he is good or not. I see some mixed answers. some say he's great and some say he's not. well, this is more like a lemons and oranges thing. however, one thing is certain. the people who thinks he is good will remain to believe in him, while the non-believers will either stay just as they are or will become converts.

as far as Arnel Pineda is concerned, there are reasons why he's Journey's frontman and not Jeremey Hunsicker (who is also a very good singer). the reason that there is much fuzz about him. it is the reason that some of you non-believers give a damn commenting and posting topics (whether positive or negative remarks) about the guy and not the other person Jeremey. He is "JOURNEY". otherwise, if Arnel is really indeed a nobody, I bet all of you wont even waste a second of your time, criticizing the person.

now, if some of you guys are still bitter about Jeremey not getting the gig, you are always free to follow him around wherever he performs or goes (even him taking a dump, if you like). you can always post something about him if he was that interesting to talk about, right? (which ain't most of you are doing).

I'm sure there are a lot of reasons why Jeremey wasn't selected. maybe Neil tried to contact him but Jeremey's ego got the best out of him and said to Neil to go fuck himself, since he's better without them Journey (which makes him a dick) or demand for royalty and his high talent fee that would make the band dead broke. maybe he auditioned but wasn't that convincing enough to be Journey material. probably he faltered or completely sucked on singing other Journey songs which he never or seldom covered (due to difficulty and does not quite add up to his repertoire). probably his body built and face is not that marketable nor adds up to the band's image. well, whatever the Jeremey's reasons are, the most important thing is what convinced Neil and company to hire Arnel, make a truly skeptical american embassy consul a believer (which ain't easy if you ain't american) and 15,000 (monster) Chileans consider and recognize Arnel as the new voice of Journey and clearly deserves such recognition.

to the Journey fans who digged the new Journey, it is nice that you enjoyed the performance and the show. and to the Journey fans who are still stucked in the past era, you can always spend your time in solitaire, crying your heart out (which I doubt that you will do, instead will continue to watch and critize the new Journey). but just remember, that as long as you keep on posting,

Arnel and Journey will always be thankful for giving a shit of your time.

Interesting debut. Strap on your seat belt...it might get even more interesting...not just content but people wondering who you are.


later~

thanks for the welcome. I just cant help myself being off-topic since most threads contain arguments of such. let's say that you guys inspired me in writing this thread. this coming from a former skeptic.

I don't know J - seems like a nice guy, we've PMed once or twice. I have no agenda. As I posted in another thread, while Arnel's debut wasn't bad, it didn't knock me out and it was definitely problematic in spots. Will he improve? Sure. But I'm not so overwhelmed I feel the need to see them again.

I can't tell you if J would have been better or not, and he certainly sounds good. I think that as J had posted a long time ago, it was more personal issues and that J, for better or worse, is his own man and he put his wife and kid before Journey and that rubbed someone the wrong way. Journey may have been his dream gig, but whatever caused it not to materialize, he's by no means bitter about it. Read his posts or his blog and make up your own mind.

I will reserve a final judgment on Arnel until I hear the new album. If it doesn't strike me, such is life. The reality is that JSS was a good match, but I think like Jeremey, he's too strong of a personality and ultimately there are egos in that band which couldn't handle it long term.

journeypower wrote:to the Journey fans who digged the new Journey, it is nice that you enjoyed the performance and the show. and to the Journey fans who are still stucked in the past era, you can always spend your time in solitaire, crying your heart out (which I doubt that you will do, instead will continue to watch and critize the new Journey). but just remember, that as long as you keep on posting,

Arnel and Journey will always be thankful for giving a shit of your time.

Looks like another Arnel fan doing a drive-by.

this will be interesting!! Augeri gave me goosebumps in 1999 and then on the arrival tour... JSS was great live in 06...but could he have kept it up???
I will hold off judgment until the new CD comes out, on whether i like this line up of journey or not. I will only say iamnot excited by it yet.
Rick

that's more of a fair,positive and logical approach styxcollector.

and to voyager, I have to correct you on your comment. I'm a Journey fan doing a drive-by. and I'm not living in a fantasy world, but a real one.

you have your reservations Rick.

journeypower wrote:you have your reservations Rick.

i feel we the fans have been bruned so many times during the last 8 years... its why some of the fans are bitter... and pissed and disgusted... but with a new tour
comes hope, with a new cd there comes hope. The key to Journey since Perry's seperation from the band is do those fans like it???

Rick

journeypower wrote:and I'm not living in a fantasy world, but a real one.

I'd have to disagree.

Voyager wrote:

journeypower wrote:and I'm not living in a fantasy world, but a real one.

I'd have to disagree.

well that is just you. and thank you for your patronage of my thread ! keep it up !

Voyager wrote:

journeypower wrote:to the Journey fans who digged the new Journey, it is nice that you enjoyed the performance and the show. and to the Journey fans who are still stucked in the past era, you can always spend your time in solitaire, crying your heart out (which I doubt that you will do, instead will continue to watch and critize the new Journey). but just remember, that as long as you keep on posting,

Arnel and Journey will always be thankful for giving a shit of your time.

Looks like another Arnel fan doing a drive-by.

My guess is it's not a new one.

journeypower wrote:As I noticed that some of you guys still debate about Journey's new frontman Arnel Pineda, whether he is good or not. I see some mixed answers. some say he's great and some say he's not. well, this is more like a lemons and oranges thing. however, one thing is certain. the people who thinks he is good will remain to believe in him, while the non-believers will either stay just as they are or will become converts.

as far as Arnel Pineda is concerned, there are reasons why he's Journey's frontman and not Jeremey Hunsicker (who is also a very good singer). the reason that there is much fuzz about him. it is the reason that some of you non-believers give a damn commenting and posting topics (whether positive or negative remarks) about the guy and not the other person Jeremey. He is "JOURNEY". otherwise, if Arnel is really indeed a nobody, I bet all of you wont even waste a second of your time, criticizing the person.

now, if some of you guys are still bitter about Jeremey not getting the gig, you are always free to follow him around wherever he performs or goes (even him taking a dump, if you like). you can always post something about him if he was that interesting to talk about, right? (which ain't most of you are doing).

I'm sure there are a lot of reasons why Jeremey wasn't selected. maybe Neil tried to contact him but Jeremey's ego got the best out of him and said to Neil to go fuck himself, since he's better without them Journey (which makes him a dick) or demand for royalty and his high talent fee that would make the band dead broke. maybe he auditioned but wasn't that convincing enough to be Journey material. probably he faltered or completely sucked on singing other Journey songs which he never or seldom covered (due to difficulty and does not quite add up to his repertoire). probably his body built and face is not that marketable nor adds up to the band's image. well, whatever the Jeremey's reasons are, the most important thing is what convinced Neil and company to hire Arnel, make a truly skeptical american embassy consul a believer (which ain't easy if you ain't american) and 15,000 (monster) Chileans consider and recognize Arnel as the new voice of Journey and clearly deserves such recognition.

to the Journey fans who digged the new Journey, it is nice that you enjoyed the performance and the show. and to the Journey fans who are still stucked in the past era, you can always spend your time in solitaire, crying your heart out (which I doubt that you will do, instead will continue to watch and critize the new Journey). but just remember, that as long as you keep on posting,

Arnel and Journey will always be thankful for giving a shit of your time.

Welcome back Neil

journeypower wrote:As I noticed that some of you guys still debate about Journey's new frontman Arnel Pineda, whether he is good or not. I see some mixed answers. some say he's great and some say he's not. well, this is more like a lemons and oranges thing. however, one thing is certain. the people who thinks he is good will remain to believe in him, while the non-believers will either stay just as they are or will become converts.

as far as Arnel Pineda is concerned, there are reasons why he's Journey's frontman and not Jeremey Hunsicker (who is also a very good singer). the reason that there is much fuzz about him. it is the reason that some of you non-believers give a damn commenting and posting topics (whether positive or negative remarks) about the guy and not the other person Jeremey. He is "JOURNEY". otherwise, if Arnel is really indeed a nobody, I bet all of you wont even waste a second of your time, criticizing the person.

now, if some of you guys are still bitter about Jeremey not getting the gig, you are always free to follow him around wherever he performs or goes (even him taking a dump, if you like). you can always post something about him if he was that interesting to talk about, right? (which ain't most of you are doing).

I'm sure there are a lot of reasons why Jeremey wasn't selected. maybe Neil tried to contact him but Jeremey's ego got the best out of him and said to Neil to go fuck himself, since he's better without them Journey (which makes him a dick) or demand for royalty and his high talent fee that would make the band dead broke. maybe he auditioned but wasn't that convincing enough to be Journey material. probably he faltered or completely sucked on singing other Journey songs which he never or seldom covered (due to difficulty and does not quite add up to his repertoire). probably his body built and face is not that marketable nor adds up to the band's image. well, whatever the Jeremey's reasons are, the most important thing is what convinced Neil and company to hire Arnel, make a truly skeptical american embassy consul a believer (which ain't easy if you ain't american) and 15,000 (monster) Chileans consider and recognize Arnel as the new voice of Journey and clearly deserves such recognition.

to the Journey fans who digged the new Journey, it is nice that you enjoyed the performance and the show. and to the Journey fans who are still stucked in the past era, you can always spend your time in solitaire, crying your heart out (which I doubt that you will do, instead will continue to watch and critize the new Journey). but just remember, that as long as you keep on posting,

Arnel and Journey will always be thankful for giving a shit of your time.

You're preaching to only a a dozen people or so around here, the majority of Journey fans have jumped on the band wagon and are ready to start hearing the new music and buying tickets to the shows coming up.

ohsherrie wrote:

Voyager wrote:

journeypower wrote:to the Journey fans who digged the new Journey, it is nice that you enjoyed the performance and the show. and to the Journey fans who are still stucked in the past era, you can always spend your time in solitaire, crying your heart out (which I doubt that you will do, instead will continue to watch and critize the new Journey). but just remember, that as long as you keep on posting,

Arnel and Journey will always be thankful for giving a shit of your time.

Looks like another Arnel fan doing a drive-by.

My guess is it's not a new one.

your guess is wrong.

stevew2 wrote:Welcome back Neil

who's Neil?

stevew2 wrote:Welcome back Neil

Neil Sedaka is a Journey fan, has posted here before and is back???

Oh, wait... You meant Neal, as in Neal Schon! Gotcha

Carlitto H@kk wrote:

stevew2 wrote:Welcome back Neil

Neil Sedaka is a Journey fan, has posted here before and is back???

Oh, wait... You meant Neal, as in Neal Schon! Gotcha

I see.

well I'll be glad if I was the latter.

texafana wrote:
You're preaching to only a a dozen people or so around here, the majority of Journey fans have jumped on the band wagon and are ready to start hearing the new music and buying tickets to the shows coming up.

No, those would only be the majority of the fans that you communicate with online. The majority of the fans that I communicate with online are as disgusted as I am.

The majority of the ticket buyers on the fair, casino, and rodeo circuit, or for the "package deal" shows don't really know or care who's singing for Journey. They just want to hear the songs they recognize sung by a band with a name they recognize.

journeypower wrote:

Carlitto H@kk wrote:

stevew2 wrote:Welcome back Neil

Neil Sedaka is a Journey fan, has posted here before and is back???

Oh, wait... You meant Neal, as in Neal Schon! Gotcha

I see.

well I'll be glad if I was the latter.

Sedaka is back...................... Sedaka is Back.................................

ohsherrie wrote:The majority of the ticket buyers on the fair, casino, and rodeo circuit, or for the "package deal" shows don't really know or care who's singing for Journey. They just want to hear the songs they recognize sung by a band with a name they recognize.

So true, Sherrie.
The average schmo will hear that Cheap Trick/Journey/Heart are coming to town,
buy tickets, spray some Aqua-Net on the camaro-mullet and be drunk by the time
Journey hits the stage. They won't care who's singing. hell, 50% of them won't be able
to name more than one band member...
They will just be pounding thier fists to DSB, raising thier lighters to Faithfully and
thinking back to thier High School daze, banging Peggy Sue on the hood of a suped-up Camaro

As for us Hardcore fans, it's gonna be a bit different.
I am holding my opinion until I hear the new material
and see some clips 10-15 shows down the road.

Carlitto H@kk wrote:

ohsherrie wrote:The majority of the ticket buyers on the fair, casino, and rodeo circuit, or for the "package deal" shows don't really know or care who's singing for Journey. They just want to hear the songs they recognize sung by a band with a name they recognize.

So true, Sherrie.
The average schmo will hear that Cheap Trick/Journey/Heart are coming to town,
buy tickets, spray some Aqua-Net on the camaro-mullet and be drunk by the time
Journey hits the stage. They won't care who's singing. hell, 50% of them won't be able
to name more than one band member...
They will just be pounding thier fists to DSB, raising thier lighters to Faithfully and
thinking back to thier High School daze, banging Peggy Sue on the hood of a suped-up Camaro

As for us Hardcore fans, it's gonna be a bit different.
I am holding my opinion until I hear the new material
and see some clips 10-15 shows down the road.

I thought your post was funny. You left out us Mopar Fans, Ford drivers used White Rain,and did it on the trunk

Carlitto H@kk wrote:

ohsherrie wrote:The majority of the ticket buyers on the fair, casino, and rodeo circuit, or for the "package deal" shows don't really know or care who's singing for Journey. They just want to hear the songs they recognize sung by a band with a name they recognize.

So true, Sherrie.
The average schmo will hear that Cheap Trick/Journey/Heart are coming to town,
buy tickets, spray some Aqua-Net on the camaro-mullet and be drunk by the time
Journey hits the stage. They won't care who's singing. hell, 50% of them won't be able
to name more than one band member...
They will just be pounding thier fists to DSB, raising thier lighters to Faithfully and
thinking back to thier High School daze, banging Peggy Sue on the hood of a suped-up Camaro

As for us Hardcore fans, it's gonna be a bit different.
I am holding my opinion until I hear the new material
and see some clips 10-15 shows down the road.

Yep, that just about sums it up Carl.

And by the way, it's great to have you back.

stevew2 wrote:

journeypower wrote:

Carlitto H@kk wrote:

stevew2 wrote:Welcome back Neil

Neil Sedaka is a Journey fan, has posted here before and is back???

Oh, wait... You meant Neal, as in Neal Schon! Gotcha

I see.

well I'll be glad if I was the latter.

Sedaka is back...................... Sedaka is Back.................................

Oh-Oh Steve, aren't you exposing yourself as a Captain and Tennille fan with that post?

The Journey fans I personally know, all know Perry hasn't been around in a decade.

They all know that Arnel Pineda is in the band.

80% of them have heard Pineda and moving on and forward and ready for a new CD.

10% are neutral at this point.

10% are members of the "Perry only, everyone else is inferior, nobody knows there's no Perry, woe is me" tribe.

ProgRocker53 wrote:The Journey fans I personally know, all know Perry hasn't been around in a decade.

They all know that Arnel Pineda is in the band.

80% of them have heard Pineda and moving on and forward and ready for a new CD.

10% are neutral at this point.

10% are members of the "Perry only, everyone else is inferior, nobody knows there's no Perry, woe is me" tribe.

And that would be what, about 10 people?

I love this post. its so dead on.
Most sites that Ive went to has nothing but good reviews and comments about Arnel. Even his new youtube clips from last night
had good reviews from people that attended the show. even the metal sludge forum thought he was good, and those guys
are harsh. The only negative once that I encountered are a few people from this forum. There might be still some out there,
but Ive never seen it

journeypower wrote:As I noticed that some of you guys still debate about Journey's new frontman Arnel Pineda, whether he is good or not. I see some mixed answers. some say he's great and some say he's not. well, this is more like a lemons and oranges thing. however, one thing is certain. the people who thinks he is good will remain to believe in him, while the non-believers will either stay just as they are or will become converts.

as far as Arnel Pineda is concerned, there are reasons why he's Journey's frontman and not Jeremey Hunsicker (who is also a very good singer). the reason that there is much fuzz about him. it is the reason that some of you non-believers give a damn commenting and posting topics (whether positive or negative remarks) about the guy and not the other person Jeremey. He is "JOURNEY". otherwise, if Arnel is really indeed a nobody, I bet all of you wont even waste a second of your time, criticizing the person.

now, if some of you guys are still bitter about Jeremey not getting the gig, you are always free to follow him around wherever he performs or goes (even him taking a dump, if you like). you can always post something about him if he was that interesting to talk about, right? (which ain't most of you are doing).

I'm sure there are a lot of reasons why Jeremey wasn't selected. maybe Neil tried to contact him but Jeremey's ego got the best out of him and said to Neil to go fuck himself, since he's better without them Journey (which makes him a dick) or demand for royalty and his high talent fee that would make the band dead broke. maybe he auditioned but wasn't that convincing enough to be Journey material. probably he faltered or completely sucked on singing other Journey songs which he never or seldom covered (due to difficulty and does not quite add up to his repertoire). probably his body built and face is not that marketable nor adds up to the band's image. well, whatever the Jeremey's reasons are, the most important thing is what convinced Neil and company to hire Arnel, make a truly skeptical american embassy consul a believer (which ain't easy if you ain't american) and 15,000 (monster) Chileans consider and recognize Arnel as the new voice of Journey and clearly deserves such recognition.

to the Journey fans who digged the new Journey, it is nice that you enjoyed the performance and the show. and to the Journey fans who are still stucked in the past era, you can always spend your time in solitaire, crying your heart out (which I doubt that you will do, instead will continue to watch and critize the new Journey). but just remember, that as long as you keep on posting,

Arnel and Journey will always be thankful for giving a shit of your time.

Thank you for another "bought and paid for" endorsement.

There are quite a few of you in here that are bought and paid for.

nice cover neal... misspelling your name. };C))

Good post, i agree.

Welcome to the forum...or welcome back if indeed you are Neal, who i think you may whilst reading the post..