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Hey Drew...

Not sure if you get The Oprah Windbag, errrr, I mean Winfrey Show in the land down under. If you do, I just saw an advertisement for Rick Springfield appearing and performing on her show tomorrow! Just wanted to give you a heads up, mate! She's also supposed to ask Springfield the hard-hitting question of did "Jesse's Girl" really exist! More great journalism from the windbag


John from Boston

That guy still rocks hard at 58. I watched him play and well....let's just say the chicks still dig Richard Springthorpe.

The thongs still get thrown up on the stage but nowadays they look more like giant slingshots instead of rubberbands.

Yeah, saw that...not sure when it would air down here - might try a torrent if I can find one. Rick...yeah! Oprah? Yikes....

ttango1 wrote:That guy still rocks hard at 58. I watched him play and well....let's just say the chicks still dig Richard Springthorpe.

The thongs still get thrown up on the stage but nowadays they look more like giant slingshots instead of rubberbands.

LMAO!!!
I just had a vision of " Shallow Hal" Jack Black........

Get Rick's album Shock, Denial, Anger, Acceptance-
That is ONE HELL of a good ROCK album. I kid you not EXCELLENT album.
Too bad Rick got the damned 'teen idol' tag. He's a great pop songwriter.
SDAA is a really great album. GET IT.

Speaking of him being on Opy, did anybody see David Cassidy on there a few weeks ago?
Umm, weird. Just weird.

brywool wrote:Get Rick's album Shock, Denial, Anger, Acceptance-
That is ONE HELL of a good ROCK album. I kid you not EXCELLENT album.
Too bad Rick got the damned 'teen idol' tag. He's a great pop songwriter.
SDAA is a really great album. GET IT.

Speaking of him being on Opy, did anybody see David Cassidy on there a few weeks ago?
Umm, weird. Just weird.

I agree. The first listen I was in "shock". Couldn't believe I was listening to a Springfield cd. It is a very good cd though.

If McNeice ever makes fun of BA again, I am bringing this thread up. He bashes BA, yet cheers for the two gayest bands ever; Toto and Rick Springfield. What in THE Hell is wrong with him?

Rockindeano wrote:If McNeice ever makes fun of BA again, I am bringing this thread up. He bashes BA, yet cheers for the two gayest bands ever; Toto and Rick Springfield. What in THE Hell is wrong with him?

TOTO are the best band ever, one of them anyway. The body of work is sublime! your really missing out Deano. BA is alright, but lets be honest - he's no less a pillow biter than Toto and Springfield are, BA loves the sausage as much as any 80's pop band.

Rockindeano wrote:If McNeice ever makes fun of BA again, I am bringing this thread up. He bashes BA, yet cheers for the two gayest bands ever; Toto and Rick Springfield. What in THE Hell is wrong with him?

Toto I can understand but Rick Springfield? He's WAY more pop than rock.

Rockindeano wrote:If McNeice ever makes fun of BA again, I am bringing this thread up. He bashes BA, yet cheers for the two gayest bands ever; Toto and Rick Springfield. What in THE Hell is wrong with him?

I agree with you about Toto....Gayer than gay.
But Springfield is rocking harder while BA is going softer. Check out Springfield's S.D.A.A. cd Dean. You may be surprised.

Vladan wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:If McNeice ever makes fun of BA again, I am bringing this thread up. He bashes BA, yet cheers for the two gayest bands ever; Toto and Rick Springfield. What in THE Hell is wrong with him?

TOTO are the best band ever, one of them anyway. The body of work is sublime! your really missing out Deano. BA is alright, but lets be honest - he's no less a pillow biter than Toto and Springfield are, BA loves the sausage as much as any 80's pop band.

This makes no sense. How can one be a fan of Journey and say Toto are gay? seems like a double standard to me. If Toto are gay, well news flash - so are Journey!. Go ask somebody who isn't a fan of either band, ask them who's more gay.

Vladan wrote:This makes no sense. How can one be a fan of Journey and say Toto are gay? seems like a double standard to me. If Toto are gay, well news flash - so are Journey!. Go ask somebody who isn't a fan of either band, ask them who's more gay.

I've heard much of Toto's catalogue and I can say without a doubt that they do not rock as hard as Journey. Not even close. However, that doesn't mean I don't like their music.

It should almost be a rule to like both Journey and Toto. They have alot of similarities.

ProgRocker53 wrote:It should almost be a rule to like both Journey and Toto. They have alot of similarities.

Toto is more pop than Journey and Journey is more rock.

conversationpc wrote:

Vladan wrote:This makes no sense. How can one be a fan of Journey and say Toto are gay? seems like a double standard to me. If Toto are gay, well news flash - so are Journey!. Go ask somebody who isn't a fan of either band, ask them who's more gay.

I've heard much of Toto's catalogue and I can say without a doubt that they do not rock as hard as Journey. Not even close. However, that doesn't mean I don't like their music.

Most of Kingdom of Desire rocks my ass right off, same with Falling in Between. Those are both excellent hard-rocking albums.

conversationpc wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:It should almost be a rule to like both Journey and Toto. They have alot of similarities.

Toto is more pop than Journey and Journey is more rock.

True, but Toto can really amp it up and let loose if needed. Luke's a monster and the rhythm section, no matter which incarnation, is tighter than all hell.

Fact: If Toto had a different name, more people would like them.

ProgRocker53 wrote:Fact: If Toto had a different name, more people would like them.

Agreed. And it is strange to why they are called TOTO, I don't understand that one. Surely the name puts people off. Journey is a cool sounding name.

ProgRocker53 wrote:It should almost be a rule to like both Journey and Toto. They have alot of similarities.

Agreed!. Both are the same style of music, same genre - I believe they both have their moments of being soft and hard rockn.

Rockindeano wrote:If McNeice ever makes fun of BA again, I am bringing this thread up. He bashes BA, yet cheers for the two gayest bands ever; Toto and Rick Springfield. What in THE Hell is wrong with him?

I'l take Springfield and his lyrics every day of the year over Journey or BA. As much as I also love both those! No shame here - Rick rules.

I'm like 90% of the population and haven't listened to anything beyond "Jesse's Girl."

What's a good Rick Springfield album for starters, I.E.... what's his Escape?

ProgRocker53 wrote:It should almost be a rule to like both Journey and Toto. They have alot of similarities.

Quoted for truth. Also, SDAA was an excellent album. Still spinning it to this day.

ProgRocker53 wrote:
What's a good Rick Springfield album for starters, I.E.... what's his Escape?

"Working Class Dog", maybe? I'm no Rick Springfield expert, but that was definitely his most well-known album and certainly the one that put him on the map, in this country. I personally always liked the song "Love Somebody". That song simply always got my adrenaline pumping.


John from Boston

Andrew wrote:I'l take Springfield and his lyrics every day of the year over Journey or BA. As much as I also love both those! No shame here - Rick rules.

Rick DOES rule! We saw him live a year ago here, and he was great! Amazing how long he was able to stretch the time out for as few songs as he played, but he was a great showman... Best line of the show (repeated several times):

"Don't touch my butt!"

ProgRocker53 wrote:I'm like 90% of the population and haven't listened to anything beyond "Jesse's Girl."

What's a good Rick Springfield album for starters, I.E.... what's his Escape?

Intresting. Rick has really evolved with each album, so you get a different sound each time. As each album reflects his personal expeiernces and at times demons, there are different vibes going on.

To put it very briefly -

Living In Oz (1983) would I think, be considered his "Escape". Heavier edge to it and more personal and filled with perfect melodic rock.

Tao (1985) is much more high-tech and features lots of synth and drum machines alongside the musicians. Heavier again in places, but his most anthemic release and lyrically, very very deep and disturbed.

Working Class Dog (1981) - 25 years aold, but ahead of it's time...very pop, but catchy as hell...every track.

Rock Of Life (1988) - Mellower, but very high tech power pop/rock. Lyrically as deep if not deeper than ever. A few massive anthems.

Karma (1996/7) - Ages more...but still pop/melodic rock at its best and some great anthems and more personal stories.

Shock Denial Anger Acceptance (2003) - Proof he's still as angry and as rocking as ever...very heavy in places.

Lots to choose from.

Written In Rock - The Anthology is a 2CD set released in 2006 - that's probaly the place to start. Everything represented.

Andrew wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:If McNeice ever makes fun of BA again, I am bringing this thread up. He bashes BA, yet cheers for the two gayest bands ever; Toto and Rick Springfield. What in THE Hell is wrong with him?

I'l take Springfield and his lyrics every day of the year over Journey or BA. As much as I also love both those! No shame here - Rick rules.

Yeah, fuckin Jesse's Girl has me deep in thought for hours if not days tryin to figure that one out.

In contrast, I can put up Journey's One More and BA's Native Son if you want deep lyrics.

Andrew wrote:Shock Denial Anger Acceptance (2003) - Proof he's still as angry and as rocking as ever...very heavy in places.

Haven't heard the album, but got one of the guitar picks at the show -- "Denial". Cool!

Andrew wrote:I'l take Springfield and his lyrics every day of the year over Journey or BA. As much as I also love both those! No shame here - Rick rules.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the world's gayest man, Mr. Andrew McNeice (applause)!!! Rick Springfield better than Journey and/or Bryan Adams? Journey's GH has sold 14 million copies. How many has Rick's sold (if he even has one!!!)?

RedWingFan wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:If McNeice ever makes fun of BA again, I am bringing this thread up. He bashes BA, yet cheers for the two gayest bands ever; Toto and Rick Springfield. What in THE Hell is wrong with him?

I agree with you about Toto....Gayer than gay.

Uh, no.



Need I say more?

Andrew wrote:Intresting. Rick has really evolved with each album, so you get a different sound each time. As each album reflects his personal expeiernces and at times demons, there are different vibes going on.

To put it very briefly -

Living In Oz (1983) would I think, be considered his "Escape". Heavier edge to it and more personal and filled with perfect melodic rock.

Great tracks on here.
Highlights for me are Alyson, Affair of the Heart, Me & Johnny, Souls. Great stuff.

Andrew wrote:Tao (1985) is much more high-tech and features lots of synth and drum machines alongside the musicians. Heavier again in places, but his most anthemic release and lyrically, very very deep and disturbed.

Even though I'm really not a fan of synths. The middle portion of this disc is great, "State of the Heart", "Written in Rock", "Walking on the Edge", and "Walk Like a Man" are great tunes.

Andrew wrote:Working Class Dog (1981) - 25 years aold, but ahead of it's time...very pop, but catchy as hell...every track.

This is the disc that really broke him here. I think this should be your starting point Prog!
Great disc.

Andrew wrote:Rock Of Life (1988) - Mellower, but very high tech power pop/rock. Lyrically as deep if not deeper than ever. A few massive anthems.

The title track "Rock of Life" is actually got me hooked on Rick. Great song, the video did very well on MTV. Very strong disc top to bottom.

Andrew wrote:Karma (1996/7) - Ages more...but still pop/melodic rock at its best and some great anthems and more personal stories.

Gotta be honest, RS really lost me here. I actually forgot this cd even existed.

Andrew wrote:Shock Denial Anger Acceptance (2003) - Proof he's still as angry and as rocking as ever...very heavy in places.

If you are more of a hard rock guy, this would be the one for you. Rocks pretty hard! Great hooks. Let us know what you think.