RE: FTLOSM - Why did they drop the ball?

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RE: FTLOSM - Why did they drop the ball?

Postby TRAGChick » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:56 am

"Lost Angels" ~ Good GOD this woud've been a MONSTER Radio-Hit, back in the day! :shock:

Seriously:

Was "The Management" too afraid that it sounded too "Journey-esque"?

I really want to know....listen, and judge for yourselves:

http://www.mailbigfile.com/463f4f5edab6 ... tFiles.php
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Postby weatherman90 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:03 pm

Never heard that one before - a nice catchy tune.
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Postby TRAGChick » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:07 pm

weatherman90 wrote:Never heard that one before - a nice catchy tune.


Yeah, totally...right?

SUPPOSED to be on the FTLOSM CD...damned if I know why it WASN'T ...
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Postby youkeepmewaiting » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:41 pm

I dont know if it was supposed to be for ATW or FLOSM

But "One More Time" should of been released on an album! His best work in my opinion
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Postby brywool » Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:03 pm

I heard they weren't going to push Perry until he went back to Journey. The record company basically pulled the rug out.
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Postby 7 Wishes » Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:51 pm

That song was actually recorded for the Frontiers sessions.
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Postby Deb » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:06 pm

Another one that should have made FTLSM too, IMO. Love this one! :D

Let Go

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Postby Saint John » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:17 pm

TRAGChick wrote:
weatherman90 wrote:Never heard that one before - a nice catchy tune.


Yeah, totally...right?

SUPPOSED to be on the FTLOSM CD...damned if I know why it WASN'T ...


They wanted to keep the album full of shitty songs so this one couldn't be on it. :twisted: :P :lol:
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Postby Just Sara » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:11 pm

Deb wrote:Another one that should have made FTLSM too, IMO. Love this one! :D

Let Go

http://download.yousendit.com/19BF3848053ACAAF


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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:48 am

Saint John wrote:
TRAGChick wrote:
weatherman90 wrote:Never heard that one before - a nice catchy tune.


Yeah, totally...right?

SUPPOSED to be on the FTLOSM CD...damned if I know why it WASN'T ...


They wanted to keep the album full of shitty songs so this one couldn't be on it. :twisted: :P :lol:


Nah, FTLOSM's a decent little effort. Deeper, darker, longer than ST. Can't Stop and Friends Of Mine should have been there, but other than a surprisingly frequent # of plays (at least in the Philly market) for You Better Wait, label did put the ball on the carpet with the album.
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Postby perrylover52 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:55 am

Deb wrote:Another one that should have made FTLSM too, IMO. Love this one! :D

Let Go

http://download.yousendit.com/19BF3848053ACAAF


Thanks so much for the link. Played it and love it. It's a great tune. Somehow it found it's way to a file on at my place.
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Re: RE: FTLOSM - Why did they drop the ball?

Postby perrylover52 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:57 am

TRAGChick wrote:"Lost Angels" ~ Good GOD this woud've been a MONSTER Radio-Hit, back in the day! :shock:

Seriously:

Was "The Management" too afraid that it sounded too "Journey-esque"?

I really want to know....listen, and judge for yourselves:

http://www.mailbigfile.com/463f4f5edab6 ... tFiles.php


Couldn't give it a listen because the file has expired. Guess I didn't get to it in time.
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Re: RE: FTLOSM - Why did they drop the ball?

Postby mriesenb » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:57 am

TRAGChick wrote:"Lost Angels" ~ Good GOD this woud've been a MONSTER Radio-Hit, back in the day! :shock:

Seriously:

Was "The Management" too afraid that it sounded too "Journey-esque"?

I really want to know....listen, and judge for yourselves:

http://www.mailbigfile.com/463f4f5edab6 ... tFiles.php


Yeah. great song.

I'm thinking of adding this to my upcoming album. If I do, it'll have Jeremey on vocals.
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Postby annie89509 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:21 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Saint John wrote:
TRAGChick wrote:
weatherman90 wrote:Never heard that one before - a nice catchy tune.


Yeah, totally...right?

SUPPOSED to be on the FTLOSM CD...damned if I know why it WASN'T ...


They wanted to keep the album full of shitty songs so this one couldn't be on it. :twisted: :P :lol:


Nah, FTLOSM's a decent little effort. Deeper, darker, longer than ST. Can't Stop and Friends Of Mine should have been there, but other than a surprisingly frequent # of plays (at least in the Philly market) for You Better Wait, label did put the ball on the carpet with the album.


For a guy whose always looking to put the digs into SP and his fans (justified or not), Red13 does always say he likes FTLOSM, even as his compatriots loathe it.

Speaking about this FTLOSM period, even SP's bandmates in SM said Sony executives did everything they could to abort this experiment, going as far as following them from city to city, undermining and all the while trying to convince Steve to go back to Journey.

BTW, I LOVE Let Go, sounds like a Journey song.
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Re: RE: FTLOSM - Why did they drop the ball?

Postby larryfromnextdoor » Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:25 am

mriesenb wrote:
TRAGChick wrote:"Lost Angels" ~ Good GOD this woud've been a MONSTER Radio-Hit, back in the day! :shock:

Seriously:

Was "The Management" too afraid that it sounded too "Journey-esque"?

I really want to know....listen, and judge for yourselves:

http://www.mailbigfile.com/463f4f5edab6 ... tFiles.php


Yeah. great song.

I'm thinking of adding this to my upcoming album. If I do, it'll have Jeremey on vocals.


uhhh,, make sure you let everyone know when you get ready to release the album!
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Re: RE: FTLOSM - Why did they drop the ball?

Postby mriesenb » Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:32 am

larryfromnextdoor wrote:
mriesenb wrote:
TRAGChick wrote:"Lost Angels" ~ Good GOD this woud've been a MONSTER Radio-Hit, back in the day! :shock:

Seriously:

Was "The Management" too afraid that it sounded too "Journey-esque"?

I really want to know....listen, and judge for yourselves:

http://www.mailbigfile.com/463f4f5edab6 ... tFiles.php


Yeah. great song.

I'm thinking of adding this to my upcoming album. If I do, it'll have Jeremey on vocals.


uhhh,, make sure you let everyone know when you get ready to release the album!


I'm sure Andrew will assist with that. It's been a while since my last album, and I badly need to get these songs out of my system ;-)

News update about the new album soon on MR.com At least if I have time to write it and Andrew to publish it :-)
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:00 am

I always thought FTLOSM just sorta missed the mark. Good performances but something was missing! But not having Lost Angels on it (if it had ever been intended) only shows a continuing problem with Perry/Journey missing some great songs. Some argue that ATL and OTY should have been on Frontiers and we all agree that ICSIIYE should have been on TBF. Follow that with Never Too Late needing to be on GHenerations from the get-go. There is a history here....
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Postby annie89509 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:19 am

jrnyman28 wrote:I always thought FTLOSM just sorta missed the mark. Good performances but something was missing! But not having Lost Angels on it (if it had ever been intended) only shows a continuing problem with Perry/Journey missing some great songs. Some argue that ATL and OTY should have been on Frontiers and we all agree that ICSIIYE should have been on TBF. Follow that with Never Too Late needing to be on GHenerations from the get-go. There is a history here....


I agree with everything you said here, J28. To me, everything that SP sang was great, but FTLOSM was rather tame--not enough guts and push to take you to a "higher place." ST was better. And TBF was 100% better! SP/NC/JC is the epitome for me. Sadly, for all Journey fans who can only dream about this combination, TBF appears to be the end of the road.
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Postby journeyrock » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:16 am

Nora, can you re-upload? It's expired. Darn!!!! :?
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Postby Rick » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:45 am

journeyrock wrote:Nora, can you re-upload? It's expired. Darn!!!! :?


Stand down Nora, I got it. :lol:
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Postby TRAGChick » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:45 am

Rick wrote:
journeyrock wrote:Nora, can you re-upload? It's expired. Darn!!!! :?


Stand down Nora, I got it. :lol:


OK....sorry I missed it... :oops:
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Postby Rick » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:49 am

TRAGChick wrote:
Rick wrote:
journeyrock wrote:Nora, can you re-upload? It's expired. Darn!!!! :?


Stand down Nora, I got it. :lol:


OK....sorry I missed it... :oops:


You were kind enough to upload it the first time, so I thought I'd help JR out.

Here you go.

http://download.yousendit.com/8FE3C63B712F5CF0
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Postby journeyrock » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:51 am

Thank you sooooo much, guys. Awesome!!!! :D
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:51 am

annie89509 wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:
Saint John wrote:
TRAGChick wrote:
weatherman90 wrote:Never heard that one before - a nice catchy tune.


Yeah, totally...right?

SUPPOSED to be on the FTLOSM CD...damned if I know why it WASN'T ...


They wanted to keep the album full of shitty songs so this one couldn't be on it. :twisted: :P :lol:


Nah, FTLOSM's a decent little effort. Deeper, darker, longer than ST. Can't Stop and Friends Of Mine should have been there, but other than a surprisingly frequent # of plays (at least in the Philly market) for You Better Wait, label did put the ball on the carpet with the album.


For a guy whose always looking to put the digs into SP and his fans (justified or not), Red13 does always say he likes FTLOSM, even as his compatriots loathe it.

Speaking about this FTLOSM period, even SP's bandmates in SM said Sony executives did everything they could to abort this experiment, going as far as following them from city to city, undermining and all the while trying to convince Steve to go back to Journey.

BTW, I LOVE Let Go, sounds like a Journey song.



I'm objective about his MUSIC.

Which is by the way, more than you can say for those who bast a most everything Journey's done w/out him (except un ess they fee they have "ins" with singers not named augeri).
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Postby Saint John » Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:57 am

annie89509 wrote:Speaking about this FTLOSM period, even SP's bandmates in SM said Sony executives did everything they could to abort this experiment, going as far as following them from city to city, undermining and all the while trying to convince Steve to go back to Journey.



Too bad they didn't succeed. I guess Perry didn't mind inferior musicians, no chemistry, an average album and small unfilled venues. Mind boggling.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:04 am

Red13JoePa wrote:I'm objective about his MUSIC.

Which is by the way, more than you can say for those who bast a most everything Journey's done w/out him (except un ess they fee they have "ins" with singers not named augeri).


Did you lose your "L" button on the keyboard?
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Postby Red13JoePa » Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:05 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:I'm objective about his MUSIC.

Which is by the way, more than you can say for those who bast a most everything Journey's done w/out him (except un ess they fee they have "ins" with singers not named augeri).


Did you lose your "L" button on the keyboard?


Yes.
Annoying.
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Postby Rick » Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:06 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
jrnyman28 wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:I'm objective about his MUSIC.

Which is by the way, more than you can say for those who bast a most everything Journey's done w/out him (except un ess they fee they have "ins" with singers not named augeri).


Did you lose your "L" button on the keyboard?


Yes.
Annoying.


Wow, thats ousy. :lol:
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:11 am

Don't et the ack of an " " key get you down.
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