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Anyway You Want It and Only The Young--Good Quality

Posted:
Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:30 pm
by fredinator
Okay, I answered my own question re: how the other guys looked during playing: they look HAPPY! Here is a vid with Neal actually running from one end of the stage to the other, LOL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44pSl3RuM-c&NR=1

Posted:
Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:43 pm
by Rockindeano
No one can watch this clip and not be impressed. Simple as that. Dude can sing.

Posted:
Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:49 pm
by ProgRocker53
VERY good performances...
Arnel Pineda is the TRUTH.
And Neal Schon is the best guitar player touring today!

Posted:
Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:50 pm
by Rockindeano
ProgRocker53 wrote:VERY good performances...
Arnel Pineda is the TRUTH.
And Neal Schon is the best guitar player touring today!
Besides Keith Scott.


Posted:
Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:54 pm
by fredinator
Someone somewhere declared that Arnel is fake on stage, WTF? Are they so shackled by their own opinions now they are blind? By the way, Dean, I am going to guess that your new garb has something to do with Easter?

Posted:
Mon Mar 10, 2008 3:56 pm
by ProgRocker53
Rockindeano wrote:ProgRocker53 wrote:VERY good performances...
Arnel Pineda is the TRUTH.
And Neal Schon is the best guitar player touring today!
Besides Keith Scott.

Haha, it's close man... I've been watching some BA live clips lately and Keith Scott can
slay on the guitar...
Re: Anyway You Want It and Only The Young--Good Quality

Posted:
Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:11 pm
by Voyager
fredinator wrote:Okay, I answered my own question re: how the other guys looked during playing: they look HAPPY! Here is a vid with Neal actually running from one end of the stage to the other, LOL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44pSl3RuM-c&NR=1
All I can say is that he sounds much more like Perry than Augeri or JSS did.


Posted:
Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:14 pm
by YoungJRNY
Whoever doesn't approve of this deserves to eat a big pile of diarrhea.
The Guys a gem.

Posted:
Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:21 pm
by Voyager
YoungJRNY wrote:Whoever doesn't approve of this deserves to eat a big pile of diarrhea.
The Guys a gem.
I wouldn't go that far. I have friends here that don't like him, and I respect their opinion even though I like him. Our Journey roots go back much farther than Arnel.


Posted:
Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:50 pm
by finalfight
Amazing. Definately the right man for the job and as a expected a vast improvement over his first show in Chile. Thanks for posting the link.

Posted:
Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:24 pm
by Eric
That little fucker is roaring. I'm getting pretty excited!

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:33 am
by STORY_TELLER
Journey finally found Perry's proper successor. Perfect voice to tour the hits and he does them justice. Glad to see he's finding his comfort on stage too!
Now I just hope the new material rises to the level of quality we come to expect from the band called Journey. I've decided to wait for studio versions before drawing an overall conclusion.

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:35 am
by brywool
fredinator wrote:Someone somewhere declared that Arnel is fake on stage, WTF? Are they so shackled by their own opinions now they are blind?
... AND DEAF. Just read the posts here. Plenty of hate goin' round...
Hey, it's their loss. Arnel is kicking ass right now. It's only 4 gigs in, but things look good so far...

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:10 am
by Deb
As much as I love/miss Perry and Soto to pieces..........you would have to be pretty deaf or close-minded to not think that sounds damn good!
Re: Anyway You Want It and Only The Young--Good Quality

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:41 am
by Lady Luck
fredinator wrote:Okay, I answered my own question re: how the other guys looked during playing: they look HAPPY! Here is a vid with Neal actually running from one end of the stage to the other, LOL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44pSl3RuM-c&NR=1
I'm stoked


Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:53 am
by brywool
Deb wrote:As much as I love/miss Perry and Soto to pieces..........you would have to be pretty deaf or close-minded to not think that sounds damn good!
Ah Deb... the darkside is calling you....


Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:01 am
by Carlitto H@kk
I said after the Chile shows that I wanted to wait
15-20 shows in or hear the new album to make
my own personal opinion but, after hearing
all the Vegas clips, I am getting more impressed each time.
Even though the quality is low on most clips, Arnel does
sound pretty good; I can still hear the accent but it
gets less and less annoying w/each listen.
Now here's a thought.
Since the Augeri-Era Vegas DVD has been released,
the band, and especially Augeri, has gotten a lot
of flack for that "performance" being greatly enhanced
with studio magic prior to it's release.
With Youtube and today's technology, we are all hearing/seeing
the band's first big performances w/ Arnel in "realtime" and "raw"...
Do you think the band will take the chance of using that same
studio magic on this upcoming DVD release, with a chance that many of
us will notice it right away, with some folks crying foul, or will
they leave it pretty much alone (no overdubbing vox, guitars, keys)
and release it in it's entirely with some good mastering/editting???
I hope not.
If the band feels that Arnel is the real deal, give us the raw
and uneditted/enhanced experience.
Just a thought I had...

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:08 am
by STORY_TELLER
Carlitto H@kk wrote:I said after the Chile shows that I wanted to wait
15-20 shows in or hear the new album to make
my own personal opinion but, after hearing
all the Vegas clips, I am getting more impressed each time.
Even though the quality is low on most clips, Arnel does
sound pretty good; I can still hear the accent but it
gets less and less annoying w/each listen.
Now here's a thought.
Since the Augeri-Era Vegas DVD has been released,
the band, and especially Augeri, has gotten a lot
of flack for that "performance" being greatly enhanced
with studio magic prior to it's release.
With Youtube and today's technology, we are all hearing/seeing
the band's first big performances w/ Arnel in "realtime" and "raw"...
Do you think the band will take the chance of using that same
studio magic on this upcoming DVD release, with a chance that many of
us will notice it right away, with some folks crying foul, or will
they leave it pretty much alone (no overdubbing vox, guitars, keys)
and release it in it's entirely with some good mastering/editting???
I hope not.
If the band feels that Arnel is the real deal, give us the raw
and uneditted/enhanced experience.
Just a thought I had...
Yes they will and they should. They're creating a product to support their new lineup and they need to put out the best quality product they can. The number of folks who will cry fowl barely number in the double digits whereas they're hoping to sell six digit units.

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:16 am
by Deb
brywool wrote:Deb wrote:As much as I love/miss Perry and Soto to pieces..........you would have to be pretty deaf or close-minded to not think that sounds damn good!
Ah Deb... the darkside is calling you....

LOL, God help me!

Re: Anyway You Want It and Only The Young--Good Quality

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:21 am
by Ratgirl
fredinator wrote:Okay, I answered my own question re: how the other guys looked during playing: they look HAPPY! Here is a vid with Neal actually running from one end of the stage to the other, LOL:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44pSl3RuM-c&NR=1
Excellent.. thanks for posting!
Deb.. the darkside is not that bad!

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:27 am
by Carlitto H@kk
STORY_TELLER wrote:Yes they will and they should. They're creating a product to support their new lineup and they need to put out the best quality product they can. The number of folks who will cry fowl barely number in the double digits whereas they're hoping to sell six digit units.
What do you think
They will and Should do?
I didn't understand your opinion.
Should they overproduce/overdub the DVD release
or leave it in it's somewhat "raw" format?

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:38 am
by STORY_TELLER
Carlitto H@kk wrote:STORY_TELLER wrote:Yes they will and they should. They're creating a product to support their new lineup and they need to put out the best quality product they can. The number of folks who will cry fowl barely number in the double digits whereas they're hoping to sell six digit units.
What do you think
They will and Should do?
I didn't understand your opinion.
Should they overproduce/overdub the DVD release
or leave it in it's somewhat "raw" format?
Sorry, I thought my follow up sentence would have clarified that. Yes they will and they should... tweak it in post to perfect the sound for the reasons I mentioned above. Like I said, they're creating a product. What we DON'T want to see/hear is that very same tweaked DVD audio recording being piped in over future "live" shows (ala tapegate).

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:39 am
by Saint John

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 6:41 am
by Melissa
Yeah that one got me too


Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:46 am
by venomnation
I was one of the worst naysayers of them all....I went so far as to call Neal Schon delusional, and call Pineda "The 40 pound Phillipino Runt" - and I've more or less had to eat both comments forcefully....because, as God is my witness, the guy can sing...and I'll agree with the statement that he's closer to Perry than Augeri.....but I don't think it's fair to compare him to JSS - JSS wasn't trying to be Steve Perry...

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:55 am
by venomnation
And...listening to Only the Young again, I'd almost say he's greatly improved his diction since Chile..

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:59 am
by Saint John
stevek2007 wrote:And...listening to Only the Young again, I'd almost say he's greatly improved his diction since Chile..
If he continues to get a little better every 2 or 3 shows he could be scary good this summer.


Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:00 pm
by fightingilliniJRNY
stevek2007 wrote:And...listening to Only the Young again, I'd almost say he's greatly improved his diction since Chile..
I won't almost say it - I
will say it. I could hardly pick up on any diction issues. There were a few parts from the Vina del Mar show where I thought to myself that his accent might be harder to overlook than I thought it would be. But not any more.

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:01 pm
by Rick
stevek2007 wrote:And...listening to Only the Young again, I'd almost say he's greatly improved his diction since Chile..
I think so too. I think he will continue to improve on that. To be fair, he's only been in the Journey camp for a few months, and has had to record a new album, rerecord the classics, learn much more of the back catalog and then have time to work on his diction. He's been working his ass off.

Posted:
Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:02 pm
by fightingilliniJRNY
Saint John wrote:stevek2007 wrote:And...listening to Only the Young again, I'd almost say he's greatly improved his diction since Chile..
If he continues to get a little better every 2 or 3 shows he could be scary good this summer.

By the end of the summer, Heart and Cheap Trick might be doing a joint 45 minute set, getting out of the way and taking a seat in the pavillion to watch Journey's set.