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In All Honesty....

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:48 pm
by Schon Rules All
I think personally I have to go with Neal. Just amazing in everything and never really lets you down musically.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:52 pm
by Schon Rules All
Um... people, feel free to respond with why your choosing whomever you may....

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:52 pm
by Behshad
Are you talkin about how talented they STILL are,, or how talented they were at the height of their career???

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:54 pm
by Schon Rules All
Behshad, I would say total collected work. Their hit miss ratio in your eyes I guess...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:58 pm
by Ratgirl
Oh boy.. thats a tough one.
I think most of them on that list are talented in a different sort of way for me.
I couldnt vote for just one. :P










but if I had to choose one it would be Neal. Amazing.. amazing Musician. 8)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:00 am
by Just Mindy
SP for me. They're all very good but The Voice moves me the most out of all of them. :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:03 am
by Lady Luck
I voted Neal, but vocally, definitely Perry.

Being front row, smack dab in front of Neal in Orlando in '06 is something I'll never forget.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:05 am
by Enigma869
This one isn't close...It's Perry! I think Neal is an IMMENSE talent, but not many would know about it, if it wasn't brought to the forefront, with Perry's vocals. I also think Cain is a GREAT songwriter, but with nobody to sing his lyrics, they never would have seen the light of day!


John from Boston

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:05 am
by Saint John
Neal Schon and Steve Perry get my vote equally. Neal has just been able to stand the test of time better. In Perry's defense, his "instrument" is much more susceptible to wear and tear, though.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:45 am
by Enigma869
Saint John wrote: Neal has just been able to stand the test of time better. In Perry's defense, his "instrument" is much more susceptible to wear and tear, though.


Glad you clarified that SJ! Neal could play until his fingers fell off! There simply isn't wear and tear on Neal's fingers, which is why it is ALWAYS impossible to compare a vocalist to a guy playing an instrument. I can't think of a single singer (Henley is the only guy who even comes close!)who sounds better, or even as good today, than they did 30 years ago. A lot of guys who play instruments for a living seem to get better with age! Singing is simply an occupational hazard!

John from Boston

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:57 am
by Rockindeano
LOL, RedJoe13 is awake, hence the SA vote.

Just stupid, plain stupid.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:03 am
by Red13JoePa
Rockindeano wrote:LOL, RedJoe13 is awake, hence the SA vote.

Just stupid, plain stupid.


Dude, you so don't even know me.
Just because I appreciate his work in the band doesn't mean I'm all about and ONLY about Augeri.

Of COURSE I voted for Schon.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:06 am
by ProgRocker53
If Steve Perry's voice could've held up like Neal Schon's fingers, I think we'd all be in heaven on earth.

I coin-flipped it between Perry and Neal.

....Neal got my vote.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:14 am
by Rockindeano
Red13JoePa wrote:Dude, you so don't even know me.


I DO know enough of you to know you have a bolt and a screw loose.

For you to not even have Perry in your top 10 singers is not subjective. It's pretty fucking stupid. Mickey Thomas? Jimi Jamoson? Steve Augeri? Are you fucking kidding me? Those three turds couldn't carry Perry's microphone.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:14 am
by Ehwmatt
Neal, hands down. Perry was an amazing talent to be sure, but Neal sings, writes, and plays some of the most melodic guitar that we'll ever have the pleasure of seeing. To be totally honest, my top 3 would probably be Schon, Rolie, and Perry in that order.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:17 am
by SF-Dano
Neal Schon. Perry is the man vocally. However, Neal's body of work over his carreer is absolutely stellar. Not really a bad release in there (IMO). Never was a huge fan of Perry's FTLOSM. I think Herbie put it best when he said something like Neal is the quintessential guitar expressionist.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:17 am
by Rockindeano
I voted Perry. The voice is the most important voice as has obviously been proven over the last 3 years. Without Perry, Journey never makes it. Without Perry, Neal might not ever really "make it."

Neal is amazing to be sure, but it's clear he has struggled since Perry left.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:18 am
by Rhiannon
Neal, totally. He's pure magic.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:36 am
by Red13JoePa
Rockindeano wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:Dude, you so don't even know me.


I DO know enough of you to know you have a bolt and a screw loose.

For you to not even have Perry in your top 10 singers is not subjective. It's pretty fucking stupid. Mickey Thomas? Jimi Jamoson? Steve Augeri? Are you fucking kidding me? Those three turds couldn't carry Perry's microphone.


:lol:

Subjective. Not saying everybody must abide by my preferences.
I guess perry being overshadowed by Neal all those years in Journey cost him in my list. :)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:26 am
by annie89509
I had to vote for Perry. The question was "who's most talented," not "most valuable." True, Neal has been in Journey since Day 1. He IS Journey now. But in their heyday, SP was the most talented AND most valuable. Herbie knew it, Neal/Jon knew it, everybody knew it. That's why SP got his way on everything.

Look, in the ROR documentary, at one point, Neal was all giddy like a kid in a candy store and said to the camera:
"I've made it, I'm safe." And, why .... because SP came back to the band after ST, that's why. He had said in earlier interviews, before Journey took off (with SP as the singer), that he was seriously thinking about giving up music and go sell ladies' shoes.

And, this from Jon, also in the ROR documentary:
"I just knew if I could get into a band with the kind of energy, with a great voice, that I was going to make it in this business. And that's exactly what has happened."

Alas, it was all short-lived excitement--for everyone involved, bandmembers/crew/fans alike, that SP just couldn't continue on after ROR.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:19 am
by Schon Rules All
Rockindeano wrote:I voted Perry. The voice is the most important voice as has obviously been proven over the last 3 years. Without Perry, Journey never makes it. Without Perry, Neal might not ever really "make it."

Neal is amazing to be sure, but it's clear he has struggled since Perry left.


I fully disagree here. You must be forgetting your history here. Neal Schon was asked by both Santana and Clapton to play with them. The guy was a success before he even knew Perrys name. Just because he went balls out and did it on his own does not mean that he needed Perry. Its really the other way around if ya think about it. Neal is the only one in the band that had some real success before AND after the classic Journey line up.

Case in Point-
Before Journey, Santana. Freaking Santana!!!!! At 15.

After Journey, circa 86.... Voice, was nominated for a Grammy. Bad English had a couple number 1's... not in that order but compared to Street Talk and FTLOSM, it kinda puts things in perspective.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:23 am
by Schon Rules All
Id like to hear from the people that did not vote for Neal or Steve P. I'm intrigued...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:26 am
by Rockindeano
Whomever voted for Valory should be banned. He simply isn't all that talented, not in the name of Perry, Schon or Soto he ain't.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:32 am
by jrnyman28
Perry Schon

Voice = Guitar
Bass < Voice
Songwriting > Songwriting
Drums > ?


Fuck it, I am voting for SMITTY!!

J/K

This is tougher than you would think. Guitar has become > voice since Perry has 'suffered' for his art. And I would think Neal's guitar work would outshine all but the voice. So does it balance out? I honestly have to give the edge to Perry as an overall talent. I forgot to add production, which I would rank higher on Perry for his DVD and repackaginging work of the Journey catalog over Neal and Jon's attempts with Red 13 and the 2 added tracks on Arrival...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:52 am
by Gin and Tonic Sky
dammit wheres the button to vote for Fleishmann :!: Gawd Im still pissed off over that whole incident :!:

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:57 am
by Behshad
Rockindeano wrote:Whomever voted for Valory should be banned. He simply isn't all that talented, not in the name of Perry, Schon or Soto he ain't.


Words Of Wisdom

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:58 am
by Ratgirl
Behshad wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Whomever voted for Valory should be banned. He simply isn't all that talented, not in the name of Perry, Schon or Soto he ain't.


Words Of Wisdom


Maybe Ross voted for Ross.. LOL! :lol: :lol:

or Stu.. :P

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:00 am
by SusieP
I voted Perry.
I bought Perry's solo stuff because his voice 'stirs' me. But I didn't buy any of Neal's side project stuff even though I rate his talent very highly. That says it all really.
Perry's voice is the main attraction for me, so I vote for him.

I don't attribute their big success during the classic lineup period to JUST Perry, though. I think it was a magical blend of all of them together at the right place, right time.

A magical blend which holds us all enthralled to this day.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:40 am
by YoungJRNY
By far it's Neal Schon. Journey's sound lays sorely on the fingers of Schon... even though Perry got there at the right time, Neal's guitar work is just as equally god like to the music as is Perry's voice of the vocals. Plus, Neal has been on EVERY EXISTING JOURNEY RECORD from day one. The guys a rock god.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:44 am
by mikemarrs
randy jackson,lol mrgreen: