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Art Vandelay wrote:
I'm confused as to why the band is rushing to put out a DVD so quickly out of the gate.
Saint John wrote:The only review I ever care about is my own, and I enjoyed the show immensely as did every single person I talked to.
Art Vandelay wrote: but it doesn't seem logical to rush a project like this when you're trying to re-build your fanbase.
Rockindeano wrote:Art Vandelay wrote: but it doesn't seem logical to rush a project like this when you're trying to re-build your fanbase.
They aren't trying to rebuild a fanbase. They are trying to maintain one. It's a smart move.
Secondly, many bands do retakes of filmed shows. They have to. With Youtube around, if you put out a DVD that is different than a cell phone video of the same exact song, it will be apparent that something has been done, doctored to the "live" show.
Art Vandelay wrote:
I'm confused as to why the band is rushing to put out a DVD so quickly out of the gate.
Rockindeano wrote:Theyr'e doing the DVD to get people who walk past the new CD, to see and say, "here's a DVD of these guys. If it's good, they;ll buy the CD." I would expect that DVD to be playing in Walmart stores on release day.
Art Vandelay wrote:Rockindeano wrote:Theyr'e doing the DVD to get people who walk past the new CD, to see and say, "here's a DVD of these guys. If it's good, they;ll buy the CD." I would expect that DVD to be playing in Walmart stores on release day.
Yep, most likely. Let's just hope it doesn't have the same effect that the Michael McDonald DVD had in The 40 Year Old Virgin.
Rockindeano wrote:Art Vandelay wrote:Rockindeano wrote:Theyr'e doing the DVD to get people who walk past the new CD, to see and say, "here's a DVD of these guys. If it's good, they;ll buy the CD." I would expect that DVD to be playing in Walmart stores on release day.
Yep, most likely. Let's just hope it doesn't have the same effect that the Michael McDonald DVD had in The 40 Year Old Virgin.
Our heads must be linked up...was thinking the same thing. Yamo Be There...argh.
Enigma869 wrote:Art Vandelay wrote:
I'm confused as to why the band is rushing to put out a DVD so quickly out of the gate.
I was also stunned when I heard Journey was recording a DVD this soon out of the gate. It really didn't make much sense to me to have a band recording a live DVD with a guy they haven't performed with, even 10 times! I would think they would want to build the chemistry, but apparently not. Let's just hope the DVD is a good one!
John from Boston
finalfight wrote:The review author appeared to be a disgruntled JSS fan who would rather the band have carried on in that direction desite the fact they were obviously unhappy. Surprisingly this translated to many as energy and excitement on the stage. I guess thats what you call showmanship.
Carlitto H@kk wrote:finalfight wrote:The review author appeared to be a disgruntled JSS fan who would rather the band have carried on in that direction desite the fact they were obviously unhappy. Surprisingly this translated to many as energy and excitement on the stage. I guess thats what you call showmanship.
This doesn't make sense.
Throughout the ENTIRE tour w/ Def Leppard,
show me one clip where the band was "obviously unhappy"
w/ Soto at the helm. You won't find one. The band was firing on
all cylinders every night. There was energy and excitement there.
The ONLY time it was obvious that there was something amiss within
the JSS-era band was the one-off show in Va right before Jeff was officailly
released/fired/let go/axed/canned... however you want to say it.
Secondly, if I am not mistaken (and I could be), isn't
this "Dan" our beloved "Saint John"???
If so, your remark about him being a "disgruntled JSS fan"
couldn't be further from the mark.
Again, if this is "Saint John", you should know that he has been
one of the biggest supporters of this move from the beginning.
That being said, this could be looked at as a very honest review
from a Arnel-led-Journey Fan.
Again, I could be wrong and this Dan is not Saint John.
And I wouldn't worry if the band gets bad reviews right now.
Arnel has a lot of growing to do within this band and it's fanbase.
Worry if the band is getting reviews like this midway through the summer tour.
finalfight wrote:If the band was happy JSS would still be with them - obviously they weren't.
kgdjpubs wrote:finalfight wrote:If the band was happy JSS would still be with them - obviously they weren't.
Exactly. Somewhere, somehow, something went wrong. Sounds like it happened either during the Europe tour or shortly thereafter. Doesn't matter why, but for the sake of the band, it is best to move on once the decision was made. You got to hear JSS and Journey at their best---you really don't want to hear them going through the motions because they were scared to get rid of him. It appears it was handled poorly, but if they weren't happy, it was best to let him go and find someone else.
CarlittoH@kk wrote:kgdjpubs wrote:finalfight wrote:If the band was happy JSS would still be with them - obviously they weren't.
Exactly. Somewhere, somehow, something went wrong. Sounds like it happened either during the Europe tour or shortly thereafter. Doesn't matter why, but for the sake of the band, it is best to move on once the decision was made. You got to hear JSS and Journey at their best---you really don't want to hear them going through the motions because they were scared to get rid of him. It appears it was handled poorly, but if they weren't happy, it was best to let him go and find someone else.
I don't think it was the band being "unhappy".
I think it was more the band not being too confident in themselves
and their fanbase.
CarlittoH@kk wrote:Let's face it, as a VERY BIG JSS supporter, I can
admit that a JSS-led Journey would probably sound a bit different
than the "classic" Journey sound we all know and love.
Some of us would have welcomed that change or saw it
as a new begining for this band. But I think the majority
of the fanbase would have been turned off alittle.
And that has NOTHING to do w/ Jeff's talents as a singer/songwriter
but more to do with fan expectations.
carlittoH@kk wrote: Jon and Neal seemed to have realized this.
It's easier for them to keep selling this brand-name if the "sound is the same" and finding
someone that can replicate that "classic" sound is an easier sell for them at this point in their
careers than trying to start over with something different.
Personally, I am starting to think they may have found a real gem in Arnel.
Everyone wins in this.
We get a "classic-sounding" Journey in 2008 and Jeff got a ton of exposure
that has been LONG overdue that shuold really benefit him with his next release.
Now if Augeri can put out an impressive solo project, all will be well in the Journey Universe...
until all the "Perry's in the studio" rumors start up again like they do every year
kgdjpubs wrote:
now, who is willing to get JSS down to NC for a show once the new album comes out? Baltimore mid-week just really isn't doable for some....
Rockindeano wrote:kgdjpubs wrote:
now, who is willing to get JSS down to NC for a show once the new album comes out? Baltimore mid-week just really isn't doable for some....
Yeah, like who the fuck would want to go to Baltimore? Complete Shithole. Oh yeah, it leads the nation in STD's and is proudly top 10 in murders. Great great place.
youkeepmewaiting wrote:It's quite sad, some peoples blind ignorance to how good this new Journey could be because they cant get over the JSS issue
finalfight wrote:The review author appeared to be a disgruntled JSS fan.
youkeepmewaiting wrote:It's quite sad, some peoples blind ignorance to how good this new Journey could be because they cant get over the JSS issue
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