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by working out the mean.

I got bored one day and decided to rank every Journey to see, pound for pound, what my favourite album was.

Take one Journey ablum, give each song a rating between 1-10, add up the scores for that album, and then divide by how many songs. It does take a while, but as i said, i was bored

Infinity

"Lights" (Perry/Schon) – 5
"Feeling That Way" (Dunbar/Perry/Rolie) – 6
"Anytime" (Fleischman/Rolie/Schon/Perry/Valory) – 5
"Lă Do Dā" (Perry/Schon) – 6
"Patiently" (Perry/Schon) – 6
"Wheel in the Sky" (Perry/Schon/Valory) – 5
"Somethin' to Hide" (Perry/Schon) – 6
"Winds of March" (Fleischman/Perry/Rolie/Schon) – 7
"Can Do" (Perry/Valory) – 2
"Opened the Door" (Perry/Rolie/Schon) – 2

50/10 = 5 pnts for Infinity


Evolution

"Majestic" (Perry/Schon) – 4
"Too Late" (Perry/Schon) – 4
"Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin'" (Perry) – 4
"City of the Angels" (Perry/Rolie/Schon) – 6
"When You're Alone (It Ain't Easy)" (Perry/Schon) – 6
"Sweet and Simple" (Perry) – 8
"Lovin' You Is Easy" (Errico/Perry/Schon) – 6
"Just the Same Way" (Rolie/Schon/Valory) – 6
"Do You Recall" (Perry/Rolie) – 7
"Daydream" (Perry/Rolie/Schon/Valory) – 4
"Lady Luck" (Perry/Schon/Valory) – 4

59/11 = 5.3


Departure

1. "Any Way You Want It" (Perry/Schon) – 7
2. "Walks Like A Lady" (Perry) – 5
3. "Someday Soon" (Perry/Rolie/Schon) – 6
4. "People And Places" (Perry/Schon/Valory) – 6
5. "Precious Time" (Perry/Schon) – 5
6. "Where Were You" (Perry/Schon) – 7
7. "I'm Cryin'" (Perry/Rolie) – 4
8. "Line Of Fire" (Perry/Schon) – 6
9. "Departure" (Schon) – NA
10. "Good Morning Girl" (Perry/Schon) – 7
11. "Stay Awhile" (Perry/Schon) – 7
12. "Homemade Love" (Perry/Schon/Smith) – 6

66/11 = 6 points


Escape

"Don't Stop Believing" – 9
"Stone in Love" – 8
"Who's Crying Now" – 8
"Keep on Runnin'" – 7
"Still They Ride" – 8
"Escape" – 7
"Lay it Down" – 2
"Dead or Alive" – 2
"Mother, Father" – 8
"Open Arms" – 7

6.6 points

Frontiers

"Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)" (Cain/Perry) – 8
"Send Her My Love" (Cain/Perry) – 7
"Chain Reaction" (Cain/Perry/Schon) – 6
"After the Fall" (Cain/Perry) – 7
"Faithfully" (Cain) – 9
"Edge Of The Blade" (Cain/Perry/Schon) – 8
"Troubled Child" (Cain/Perry/Schon) – 6
"Back Talk" (Cain/Perry/Smith) – 7
"Frontiers" (Cain/Perry/Schon/Smith) – 6
"Rubicon" (Cain/Perry/Schon) – 6

7 points

ROR


"Girl Can't Help It" – 7
"Positive Touch" – 7
"Suzanne" – 8
"Be Good to Yourself" – 8
"Once You Love Somebody" – 7
"Happy To Give" – 7
"Raised On Radio" – 7
"I'll Be Alright Without You" – 7
"It Could Have Been You" – 7
"The Eyes Of A Woman" – 5
"Why Can't This Night Go On Forever" – 8

7.09


TBF


"Message of Love" – 8
"One More" – 7
"When You Love a Woman" – 7
"If He Should Break Your Heart" – 7
"Forever in Blue" – 8
"Castles Burning" – 6
"Don't Be Down on Me Baby" – 6
"Still She Cries" – 9
"Colors of the Spirit" – 8
"When I Think of You" – 7
"Easy to Fall" – 7
"Can't Tame the Lion" – 6
"It's Just the Rain" – 5
"Trial By Fire" – 8
"Baby I'm Leaving You" – 7

Techinally there is 15 songs.

7.06


Arrival

"Higher Place" – 8
"All the Way" – 7
"Signs of Life" – 8
"All the Things" – 6
"Loved By You" – 6
"Livin' to Do" – 5
"World Gone Wild" – 5
"I Got a Reason" – 8
"With Your Love" – 6
"Lifetime of Dreams" – 6
"Live and Breathe" – 6
"Nothin' Comes Close" – 6
"To Be Alive Again" – 8
"Kiss Me Softly" – 6
"We Will Meet Again" –7

6.5

Red 13

"Intro: Red 13 / State of Grace" 6
"The Time" 6
"Walkin' Away from the Edge" 9
"I Can Breathe" 5

5.2


Generations

"Faith in the Heartland" 7
"The Place in Your Heart" 7
"A Better Life" 7
"Every Generation" 6
"Butterfly (She Flies Alone)" 6
"Believe" 6
"Knowing That You Love Me" 6
"Out of Harms Way" 7
"In Self-Defense" 5
"Better Together" 5
"Gone Crazy" 2
"Beyond the Clouds" 2
"Never Too Late" (bonus track) 8

5.4


Results

Infinty - 5
Red 13 - 5.2
Evolution - 5.3
Generations - 5.4
Departure - 6.0
Arrival - 6.5
Escape - 6.6
Frontiers - 7
TBF - 7.06
ROR - 7.09

MY god! That was a long drawn out affair. Ill be suprised if any one else can be arsed doing this after me.

Suprsingly ROR comes out as the album with the highest mean score, and Escape is alot lower than i would of thought.

What really shocked me is that Arrival has more of my favourite Journey songs than any other album, hmm






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You forgot three whole Journey albums.

ProgRocker53 wrote:You forgot three whole Journey albums.

I new Prog would be on the case

Ashamed to say I dont own, so I dont want to rank them

youkeepmewaiting wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:You forgot three whole Journey albums.

I new Prog would be on the case

Ashamed to say I dont own, so I dont want to rank them

Good call brotherman... You should pick 'em up sometime. Great material, the Journey vibe is very much present in those first three releases....

ProgRocker53 wrote:You forgot three whole Journey albums.

And so did everyone else!


John from Boston

ProgRocker53 wrote:You forgot three whole Journey albums.

No he didn't.

Enigma869 wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:You forgot three whole Journey albums.

And so did everyone else!

I don't think "everyone else" have even bothered to try those three albums, sometimes.

You forgot a ton of stuff.

The first three records, of course.
Captured had one studio cut.
Time 3 had a bunch of unreleased stuff.
Greatest Hits had "Only The Young" and "Ask the Lonely".

Journey

Of a Lifetime - 7
In the Morning Day - 5
Kohoutek [Instrumental] - 9
To Play Some Music -5
Topaz [Instrumental] -6
In My Lonely Feeling/Conversations [Instrumental] - 5
Mystery Mountain - 7

44/7 = 6.3 pnts for Journey


Look Into the Future

On a Saturday Night - 4
It's All Too Much - 5
Anyway -4
She Makes Me (Feel Alright) - 4
You're on Your Own - 6
Look into the Future - 6
Midnight Dreamer - 7
I'm Gonna Leave You - 5

39/8 = 3.9 pnts for Look Into the Future


Next

Spaceman - 6
People - 5
I Would Find You - 7
Here We Are - 4
Hustler - 8
Next - 5
Nickel and Dime - 9
Karma - 5

49/8 = 6.1 pnts for Next


Infinity

"Lights" - 5
"Feeling That Way" - 6
"Anytime" – 6
"Lă Do Dā" – 8
"Patiently" – 9
"Wheel in the Sky" – 8
"Somethin' to Hide" – 8
"Winds of March" – 9
"Can Do" – 4
"Opened the Door" – 7

70/10 = 7.0 pnts for Infinity


Evolution

"Majestic" – 5
"Too Late" – 7
"Lovin', Touchin', Squeezin'" – 3
"City of the Angels" - 5
"When You're Alone (It Ain't Easy)" – 4
"Sweet and Simple" – 8
"Lovin' You Is Easy" – 4
"Just the Same Way" – 8
"Do You Recall" – 6
"Daydream" – 6
"Lady Luck" – 4

60/11 = 5.5 pnts for Evolution


Departure

"Any Way You Want It" – 8
"Walks Like A Lady" – 4
"Someday Soon" – 6
"People And Places" – 5
"Precious Time" – 4
"Where Were You" – 8
"I'm Cryin'" – 4
"Line Of Fire" – 7
"Departure" – 6
"Good Morning Girl" – 7
"Stay Awhile" – 6
"Homemade Love" – 4

69/12 = 5.8 pnts for Departure


Captured

All the live tracks - 7
"The Party's Over (Hopelessly In Love) - 8

7.5 pnts for Captured

Escape

"Don't Stop Believing" – 10
"Stone in Love" – 9
"Who's Crying Now" – 8
"Keep on Runnin'" – 9
"Still They Ride" – 10
"Escape" – 9
"Lay it Down" – 6
"Dead or Alive" – 5
"Mother, Father" – 10
"Open Arms" – 5

82/10 = 8.2 pnts for Escape


Frontiers

"Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)" – 10
"Send Her My Love" – 10
"Chain Reaction" – 8
"After the Fall" – 9
"Faithfully" – 9
"Edge Of The Blade" – 8
"Troubled Child" – 9
"Back Talk" – 2
"Frontiers" – 8
"Rubicon" – 8

81/10 = 8.1 pnts for Fontiers


ROR

"Girl Can't Help It" – 8
"Positive Touch" – 4
"Suzanne" – 8
"Be Good to Yourself" – 7
"Once You Love Somebody" – 6
"Happy To Give" – 7
"Raised On Radio" – 8
"I'll Be Alright Without You" – 7
"It Could Have Been You" – 6
"The Eyes Of A Woman" – 6
"Why Can't This Night Go On Forever" – 10

77/11 = 7.0 pnts for Raised on Radio


Greatest Hits
"Ask the Lonely" - 8
"Only The Young" - 10
Collection as a whole - 8

82/10 = 8.3 pnts for Greatest Hits


TIME 1

Cookie Duster - 6
For You - 8
Good Times - 5
As a whole - 6

25/4 = 6.3 pnts for Time 1


TIME 2

Dixie Highway - 4
As a whole - 9

13/2 = 6.5 pnts for Time 2

TIME 3

Raza Del Sol - 3
Only Solutions - 8
Liberty - 8
All That Really Matters - 7
With a Tear - 9
Into Your Arms - 8
As a whole - 7

51/7 = 7.3 pnts for Time 3


TBF

"Message of Love" – 7
"One More" – 6
"When You Love a Woman" – 9
"If He Should Break Your Heart" – 10
"Forever in Blue" – 9
"Castles Burning" – 2
"Don't Be Down on Me Baby" – 7
"Still She Cries" – 9
"Colors of the Spirit" – 6
"When I Think of You" – 9
"Easy to Fall" – 9
"Can't Tame the Lion" – 4
"It's Just the Rain" – 9
"Trial By Fire" – 10
"Baby I'm Leaving You" – 6

Techincally there are 15 songs.

112/15 = 7.5 pnts for TBF


Arrival

"Higher Place" – 10
"All the Way" – 9
"Signs of Life" – 5
"All the Things" – 5
"Loved By You" – 5
"Livin' to Do" – 4
"World Gone Wild" – 10
"I Got a Reason" –6
"With Your Love" – 6
"Lifetime of Dreams" – 6
"Live and Breathe" – 6
"Nothin' Comes Close" – 6
"To Be Alive Again" – 8
"Kiss Me Softly" – 4
"We Will Meet Again" – 10

100/15 = 6.7 pnts for Arrival


Red 13

"Intro: Red 13 / State of Grace" 6
"The Time" 3
"Walkin' Away from the Edge" 4
"I Can Breathe" 3

16/4 = 4.0 pnts for Red13


Generations

"Faith in the Heartland" - 6
"The Place in Your Heart" - 4
"A Better Life" - 8
"Every Generation" - 4
"Butterfly (She Flies Alone)" - 2
"Believe" - 5
"Knowing That You Love Me" - 4
"Out of Harms Way" - 6
"In Self-Defense" - 3
"Better Together" - 4
"Gone Crazy" - 3
"Beyond the Clouds" - 9
"Never Too Late" (bonus track) - 10

68/13 = 5.2 pnts for Generations


Results

6.3 pnts for Journey
3.9 pnts for Look Into the Future
6.1 pnts for Next
7.0 pnts for Infinity
5.5 pnts for Evolution
5.8 pnts for Departure
7.5 pnts for Captured
8.2 pnts for Escape
8.1 pnts for Fontiers
7.0 pnts for Raised on Radio
8.3 pnts for Greatest Hits
6.3 pnts for Time 1
6.5 pnts for Time 2
7.3 pnts for Time 3
7.5 pnts for TBF
6.7 pnts for Arrival
4.0 pnts for Red13
5.2 pnts for Generations

Which would lead to...
1. Greatest Hits
2. Escape
3. Frontiers
4. TBF
5. Captured
6. Time 3
7. Infinity
8. Raised on Radio
9. Arrival
10. Time 2
11. Journey
12. Time 1
13. Next
14. Departure
15. Evolution
16. Generations
17. Red 13
18. Look Into the Future

Phew.

Well, there's an hour of my life I'll never have back. At least it wasn't a Steven Seagal movie.

Without spending as much time, here's my take.

The pre-Perry Journey albums - 5

The Perry era Journey albums - 10

The post-Perry Journey albums - 0

Johnny Mohawk wrote:Without spending as much time, here's my take.

The pre-Perry Journey albums - 5

The Perry era Journey albums - 10

The post-Perry Journey albums - 0

Johnny Mohawk wrote:Without spending as much time, here's my take.

The pre-Perry Journey albums - 5

The Perry era Journey albums - 10

The post-Perry Journey albums - 0

ProgRocker,

I do appreciate those first three albums (as I'm sure you must, due to your screen name). The song "Look Into the Future" is absolutely stellar!
However, whenever I hear the live versions that they did of those tunes after Perry joined (Saturday Night, She Makes Me Feel Alright, Next, On Your Own), I can't help but wish that Perrys soaring vocals were on those earlier albums, as FOR ME, that would have taken those songs to a whole nutha level.

I think you have to give consideration to how the songs were ordered on each album too. Feeling that Way to Anytime to LaDoDa to Patiently has a great flow to it. I remember just about wearing out my older sister's copy of Infinity side 1 listening to these.

On the other hand, Chain Reaction just breaks the flow of Frontiers side 1 for me.