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journey should follow reo's lead

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:15 pm
by sniper16
when reo released thier 3 cd/dvd set thru wal mart . they went on a 2 week bus tour of midwest radio stations, and really got the word out that they were still a viable band and had new songs out. and im sure helped the sales of the new cd.
if neal and jon are reading take a page from reo.

Re: journey should follow reo's lead

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:22 pm
by Saint John
sniper16 wrote:when reo released thier 3 cd/dvd set thru wal mart . they went on a 2 week bus tour of midwest radio stations, and really got the word out that they were still a viable band and had new songs out. and im sure helped the sales of the new cd.
if neal and jon are reading take a page from reo.


Great idea, but I think it's too late as their tour schedule is all but finalized. I love the concept, though. 8)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:34 pm
by Andrew
I know they will be promoting the crap out of this release...some interesting things in the pipeline...

PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 11:37 pm
by strangegrey
Perry, Schlong and Yeastboy did a radio tour following the release of TBF with the same goals in mind. Then, the singer had an 'accident'.

Maybe Schlong, Yeastboy and Arnie can do the same thing...

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:39 am
by stevew2
strangegrey wrote:Perry, Schlong and Yeastboy did a radio tour following the release of TBF with the same goals in mind. Then, the singer had an 'accident'.

Maybe Schlong, Yeastboy and Arnie can do the same thing...
Yeastboy?? Thats a new one, love it

Re: journey should follow reo's lead

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:27 am
by lights1961
sniper16 wrote:when reo released thier 3 cd/dvd set thru wal mart . they went on a 2 week bus tour of midwest radio stations, and really got the word out that they were still a viable band and had new songs out. and im sure helped the sales of the new cd.
if neal and jon are reading take a page from reo.


for arrival remember they did radio interviews and played live... that was awesome..

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:54 am
by STORY_TELLER
They need to promote the crap out of it. Don't know that radio will support new music from a band of this era with its 3rd recorded vocalist. Most DJ's (eg. uncle joe benson) are Perry loyalists. I heard him giving Journey shit the other day following LTS. Said something about them "being on their 4th(?) singer and they just re-recorded the greatest hits", then went on to question: "think they're trying to cut someone out of royalties? Hm?".

They have an uphill battle for sure, but I expect them to use You Tube as the new radio myself.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 4:59 am
by Rockindeano
STORY_TELLER wrote:They need to promote the crap out of it. Don't know that radio will support new music from a band of this era with its 3rd recorded vocalist. Most DJ's (eg. uncle joe benson) are Perry loyalists. I heard him giving Journey shit the other day following LTS. Said something about them "being on their 4th(?) singer and they just re-recorded the greatest hits", then went on to question: "think they're trying to cut someone out of royalties? Hm?".

They have an uphill battle for sure, but I expect them to use You Tube as the new radio myself.


If they can effectively "cut Perry from the royalties," I would love to see Perry go re record the classics himself, and fuck Neal and Jon in the ass. I can guarantee you Perry rerecords would outsell Journey rerecords 4-1.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:01 am
by ProgRocker53
Rockindeano wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:They need to promote the crap out of it. Don't know that radio will support new music from a band of this era with its 3rd recorded vocalist. Most DJ's (eg. uncle joe benson) are Perry loyalists. I heard him giving Journey shit the other day following LTS. Said something about them "being on their 4th(?) singer and they just re-recorded the greatest hits", then went on to question: "think they're trying to cut someone out of royalties? Hm?".

They have an uphill battle for sure, but I expect them to use You Tube as the new radio myself.


If they can effectively "cut Perry from the royalties," I would love to see Perry go re record the classics himself, and fuck Neal and Jon in the ass. I can guarantee you Perry rerecords would outsell Journey rerecords 4-1.


Then out of nowhere, Flieschman/Tickner/Jackson/Smith/Rolie all decide to re-record the classics, and we have a full-fledged Journey war on our hands.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:41 am
by STORY_TELLER
Rockindeano wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:They need to promote the crap out of it. Don't know that radio will support new music from a band of this era with its 3rd recorded vocalist. Most DJ's (eg. uncle joe benson) are Perry loyalists. I heard him giving Journey shit the other day following LTS. Said something about them "being on their 4th(?) singer and they just re-recorded the greatest hits", then went on to question: "think they're trying to cut someone out of royalties? Hm?".

They have an uphill battle for sure, but I expect them to use You Tube as the new radio myself.


If they can effectively "cut Perry from the royalties," I would love to see Perry go re record the classics himself, and fuck Neal and Jon in the ass. I can guarantee you Perry rerecords would outsell Journey rerecords 4-1.


No argument here. I wonder if they "can" cut him out of royalties entirely though? I mean he is a listed songwriter on every freakin' song, right? Re-recording them shouldn't matter. Then again, I'm pretty sure Perry could care less about the money at this point.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:46 am
by STORY_TELLER
ProgRocker53 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:They need to promote the crap out of it. Don't know that radio will support new music from a band of this era with its 3rd recorded vocalist. Most DJ's (eg. uncle joe benson) are Perry loyalists. I heard him giving Journey shit the other day following LTS. Said something about them "being on their 4th(?) singer and they just re-recorded the greatest hits", then went on to question: "think they're trying to cut someone out of royalties? Hm?".

They have an uphill battle for sure, but I expect them to use You Tube as the new radio myself.


If they can effectively "cut Perry from the royalties," I would love to see Perry go re record the classics himself, and fuck Neal and Jon in the ass. I can guarantee you Perry rerecords would outsell Journey rerecords 4-1.


Then out of nowhere, Flieschman/Tickner/Jackson/Smith/Rolie all decide to re-record the classics, and we have a full-fledged Journey war on our hands.


Considering they were only on about 4 tracks total off the GH's, it would be more like an EP than and LP. :D

Even still, they don't hold copyrights on the songs. Although, makes you wonder how Chalfant did his tribute album. Bottom line of course is, anyone can do whatever they want. They just have to hope the copyright holders opt to not take them to court over it. :wink:

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:27 am
by FishinMagician
what, should they take it on the run? haha i crack myself up

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:42 pm
by Arkansas
REO blows. Cronin is a complete rattle trap.
NO ONE should follow their lead.

Well, unless they want to cover 'Back On the Road Again', REO's best song...and that's a stretch.


later~

PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:53 pm
by texafana
REO????????? Please, sure they aren't that bad...but Journey is in an entirely different league of popularity and talent.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 12:59 am
by MrsPerry
Rockindeano wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:They need to promote the crap out of it. Don't know that radio will support new music from a band of this era with its 3rd recorded vocalist. Most DJ's (eg. uncle joe benson) are Perry loyalists. I heard him giving Journey shit the other day following LTS. Said something about them "being on their 4th(?) singer and they just re-recorded the greatest hits", then went on to question: "think they're trying to cut someone out of royalties? Hm?".

They have an uphill battle for sure, but I expect them to use You Tube as the new radio myself.


If they can effectively "cut Perry from the royalties," I would love to see Perry go re record the classics himself, and fuck Neal and Jon in the ass. I can guarantee you Perry rerecords would outsell Journey rerecords 4-1.


From your keys to Steve's ears Deano. i would run 40 blocks to buy that CD.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:11 am
by ProgRocker53
Arkansas wrote:REO blows. Cronin is a complete rattle trap.
NO ONE should follow their lead.

Well, unless they want to cover 'Back On the Road Again', REO's best song...and that's a stretch.


later~


There's a video on YouTube of REO Speedwagon having an unplugged jam with Styx and Journey. During "Roll With The Changes" both Jon and Neal get some cool solos. Check it out.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:12 am
by StyxCollector
Even if Perry doesn't get a cut of the CD in terms of general profits, he'll get paid for being a songwriter. Or they'd be in violation of how these things work. So Perry profits indirectly.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:21 am
by Eric
Rockindeano wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:They need to promote the crap out of it. Don't know that radio will support new music from a band of this era with its 3rd recorded vocalist. Most DJ's (eg. uncle joe benson) are Perry loyalists. I heard him giving Journey shit the other day following LTS. Said something about them "being on their 4th(?) singer and they just re-recorded the greatest hits", then went on to question: "think they're trying to cut someone out of royalties? Hm?".

They have an uphill battle for sure, but I expect them to use You Tube as the new radio myself.


If they can effectively "cut Perry from the royalties," I would love to see Perry go re record the classics himself, and fuck Neal and Jon in the ass. I can guarantee you Perry rerecords would outsell Journey rerecords 4-1.


You're right...but it would just be a remaster of his vocals with new backing.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:56 am
by lparn
what are they going to do? an instore cd signing? again that would have awesome when arrival came out or even generations. hate that store anyway not even that would get me to go inthere

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:58 am
by lowdbrent
Rockindeano wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:They need to promote the crap out of it. Don't know that radio will support new music from a band of this era with its 3rd recorded vocalist. Most DJ's (eg. uncle joe benson) are Perry loyalists. I heard him giving Journey shit the other day following LTS. Said something about them "being on their 4th(?) singer and they just re-recorded the greatest hits", then went on to question: "think they're trying to cut someone out of royalties? Hm?".

They have an uphill battle for sure, but I expect them to use You Tube as the new radio myself.


If they can effectively "cut Perry from the royalties," I would love to see Perry go re record the classics himself, and fuck Neal and Jon in the ass. I can guarantee you Perry rerecords would outsell Journey rerecords 4-1.


Perry has the green tree tunes from Journey, that's why Journey is the one who has to re-record. Everyone will continue to use Perry as the unit of measure. You can't mimmick the majic and the originality of those tunes. Dean doesn't have the swing and the soul that Steve had. Neal is playing the notes, but the emotion is not there. Journey is it's own tribute band now.

Besides this, the sales of this new project will not even come close to the sales of the repackaged stuff in the past. Radio does not play new recordings of legacy artists. The stations that DO are not in the top markets. Radio is not as effective anyway. Not like it used to be. If they had done this the year Perry left...maybe it would have been received. I still doubt it. Bands usually don't survive multiple singers and years between hits. There just aren't any to name as proof otherwise.

Re: journey should follow reo's lead

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:06 am
by brywool
lights1961 wrote:
sniper16 wrote:when reo released thier 3 cd/dvd set thru wal mart . they went on a 2 week bus tour of midwest radio stations, and really got the word out that they were still a viable band and had new songs out. and im sure helped the sales of the new cd.
if neal and jon are reading take a page from reo.


for arrival remember they did radio interviews and played live... that was awesome..


Yeah, they went on Mark and Bryan and were all buddy buddy, then Mark and Bryan roasted them with the tapegate thing. Douche bags...

Re: journey should follow reo's lead

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:16 am
by Rockindeano
brywool wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
sniper16 wrote:when reo released thier 3 cd/dvd set thru wal mart . they went on a 2 week bus tour of midwest radio stations, and really got the word out that they were still a viable band and had new songs out. and im sure helped the sales of the new cd.
if neal and jon are reading take a page from reo.


for arrival remember they did radio interviews and played live... that was awesome..


Yeah, they went on Mark and Bryan and were all buddy buddy, then Mark and Bryan roasted them with the tapegate thing. Douche bags...


You saying it wasn't deserved?

Re: journey should follow reo's lead

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:33 am
by brywool
Rockindeano wrote:
brywool wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
sniper16 wrote:when reo released thier 3 cd/dvd set thru wal mart . they went on a 2 week bus tour of midwest radio stations, and really got the word out that they were still a viable band and had new songs out. and im sure helped the sales of the new cd.
if neal and jon are reading take a page from reo.


for arrival remember they did radio interviews and played live... that was awesome..


Yeah, they went on Mark and Bryan and were all buddy buddy, then Mark and Bryan roasted them with the tapegate thing. Douche bags...


You saying it wasn't deserved?


Nah, I'm saying don't act like your Journey best buds, then roast them in front of millions. I dunno, I thought it was pretty crappy of them after Journey kind of gave them the exclusive debut of the Augeri team. I mean, when they were in their studio, they saw how good Augeri was and made tons of comments about how he was great. I just looked at it as kind of kicking them when they were down. If they were journalists, I guess I could see it, but they're the morning zoo/drivetime knuckleheads and ... I dunno. I thought they should just shut up. I know you will disagree, that's cool too.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:43 am
by hoagiepete
ProgRocker53 wrote:
Arkansas wrote:REO blows. Cronin is a complete rattle trap.
NO ONE should follow their lead.

Well, unless they want to cover 'Back On the Road Again', REO's best song...and that's a stretch.


later~


There's a video on YouTube of REO Speedwagon having an unplugged jam with Styx and Journey. During "Roll With The Changes" both Jon and Neal get some cool solos. Check it out.


Hadn't seen that.

Been thinkin this a long time but hearing Schon and Shaw together confirmed it. Time for a new supergroup - kind of a Damn Yankees on High Octane...Schon Shaw Blades Castronovo even Uncle Teddy if possible...how about throwing in Paul Rogers for good measure. I'm there!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:13 am
by brywool
Arkansas wrote:REO blows. Cronin is a complete rattle trap.
NO ONE should follow their lead.

Well, unless they want to cover 'Back On the Road Again', REO's best song...and that's a stretch.


later~


yup. El Sucko

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:40 pm
by jrnyfan74
I couldn't agree more. The same would probably happen if Perry ever decided to tour again.

Rockindeano wrote:
STORY_TELLER wrote:They need to promote the crap out of it. Don't know that radio will support new music from a band of this era with its 3rd recorded vocalist. Most DJ's (eg. uncle joe benson) are Perry loyalists. I heard him giving Journey shit the other day following LTS. Said something about them "being on their 4th(?) singer and they just re-recorded the greatest hits", then went on to question: "think they're trying to cut someone out of royalties? Hm?".

They have an uphill battle for sure, but I expect them to use You Tube as the new radio myself.


If they can effectively "cut Perry from the royalties," I would love to see Perry go re record the classics himself, and fuck Neal and Jon in the ass. I can guarantee you Perry rerecords would outsell Journey rerecords 4-1.

Re: journey should follow reo's lead

PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 8:17 pm
by AlienC
sniper16 wrote:when reo released thier 3 cd/dvd set thru wal mart . they went on a 2 week bus tour of midwest radio stations, and really got the word out that they were still a viable band and had new songs out. and im sure helped the sales of the new cd.
if neal and jon are reading take a page from reo.

Midwest??? SCREW the MIDWEST! not really but hang with me....
With WALLY Mart selling their stuff, they've got to think outside the borders... from www.walmartfacts.com
We operate more than 3,800 facilities in the United States and more than 2,600 more in Argentina, Brazil, Canada, China, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Germany, Guatemala, Honduras, Japan, Mexico, Nicaragua, Puerto Rico, South Korea and the United Kingdom.

There's also SAM's Clubs and they've got those in France, We know how they like playing in France.
They've entered The Global Economy. and "The Audience" is no longer the prime domain of The American Retail Public. Now, The US also competes with these countries listed for "attention".
When They put one in the Phillipines, it's all over. I can tell you right now they will sell so many that end up in overseas overnight shipments the first day.

Sorry, but your "job" as "The Fan" has been outsourced.
The band is playing on the other side of the world for people to whom the "Dirty Dozen" are new.
I'm sure they're ok with that. That means they don't need to write that NEW hit song quite so quickly, they can $elll new t-$hirt$ new $wag , (ahh good time$) all over South America and The Eastern Hemisphere, and tour the old same thing to new ears. Not quite "EverGreen" but close.