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Unbelievable-2

I see Lie Finder is all over a piece in which Hillary fucked up and misspoke.

What Lie Finder should be entitling is the blatant scumbag way the State Dept breached the Passports of Obama, Clinton and McCain. But no, no comment on that episode.

Unbelievable-3.

How about asshole Rush Limbaugh directing his minions(brain dead followers), to vote for Hillary in Ohio. One problem. Once you sign up for the Democratic Party, you promise to take on their ideals and convictions. People lied and laughed it off. What exactly is this? Well, it's typical scumbag GOP tactics but more importantly it's possibly and probably voter fraud. Congratulations Rush.

That's what's truly UNBELIEVABLE.

Rockindeano wrote:Unbelievable-2

I see Lie Finder is all over a piece in which Hillary fucked up and misspoke.

What Lie Finder should be entitling is the blatant scumbag way the State Dept breached the Passports of Obama, Clinton and McCain. But no, no comment on that episode.

Unbelievable-3.

How about asshole Rush Limbaugh directing his minions(brain dead followers), to vote for Hillary in Ohio. One problem. Once you sign up for the Democratic Party, you promise to take on their ideals and convictions. People lied and laughed it off. What exactly is this? Well, it's typical scumbag GOP tactics but more importantly it's possibly and probably voter fraud. Congratulations Rush.

That's what's truly UNBELIEVABLE.

please it happens in every state.. how do you think MCAIN got elected to the GOP head---by democrates and independents. surely not the conservative base... its not fraud....
when Obama advertises for the GOP to switches what is that???


Rick

Rockindeano wrote:Unbelievable-2

I see Lie Finder is all over a piece in which Hillary fucked up and misspoke.

Misspoke? Misspoke would be "I said I was wearing my black pantsuit last Tuesday, but I meant to say blue...". Not "I was taking sniper fire...oh yeah, no I wasn't..."

Rockindeano wrote:Unbelievable-2

I see Lie Finder is all over a piece in which Hillary fucked up and misspoke.

Misspoke? Would Media Matters and Keith "rip and read" Olbermann take that as an acceptable excuse? I think not.

Rockindeano wrote:Unbelievable-2



How about asshole Rush Limbaugh directing his minions(brain dead followers), to vote for Hillary in Ohio. One problem. Once you sign up for the Democratic Party, you promise to take on their ideals and convictions. People lied and laughed it off. What exactly is this? Well, it's typical scumbag GOP tactics but more importantly it's possibly and probably voter fraud. Congratulations Rush.

That's what's truly UNBELIEVABLE.

The truth is- Both parties do this . Remember Dems trading wiht Nader folks for votes in different geographies depending upon your location? Dems voting purposely for McCain in 2000, and 2008 primaries.
Its not voter fraud, but in my view wrong what ever party does it- if its done for tactical reasons its wrong. you should vote your conviction only.

Having said that - There are some good reasons for tactical voting. If I lived in NC or Penn, I might well vote in the donkey primary this year even though Im an elephant and vote for hillary. Simply because -although I dislike Hillary immensely , shes not a total danger to the country - if Obama were to get get elected, it would be worse then James Buchanan, Jimmy Carter, and Ulysses B Grant's presidencies combined and multiplied 25 times over.

Rush's plan could backfire on him. Hillary is now more electable than Obama.

Barb wrote:Rush's plan could backfire on him. Hillary is now more electable than Obama.

Unfortunately, unless there's a scandal that takes Obama out or the super delegates vote for Hillary, he is going to be the next Democrat nominee for President. If the super delegates go for Hillary and that gets her the nomination, the Democratic party as we know it will implode.

Rockindeano wrote:Unbelievable-2

I see Lie Finder is all over a piece in which Hillary fucked up and misspoke.

What Lie Finder should be entitling is the blatant scumbag way the State Dept breached the Passports of Obama, Clinton and McCain. But no, no comment on that episode.

I believe that those responsible in the State Dept have already been dealt with - two fired and a third disciplined.

I do seem to recall, however, a great number of FBI files of prominent Republicans being improperly accessed during the Clinton Whitehouse...

Where is the outrage concerning how McSurge "misspoke" last week (on three occasions)? It appears that after five years, Maverick does not know who we are fighting in Iraq.

conversationpc wrote:

Barb wrote:Rush's plan could backfire on him. Hillary is now more electable than Obama.

Unfortunately, unless there's a scandal that takes Obama out or the super delegates vote for Hillary, he is going to be the next Democrat nominee for President. If the super delegates go for Hillary and that gets her the nomination, the Democratic party as we know it will implode.

Blacks across this country will riot, loot and pretty much destroy every inner-city shit hole in this country if those super delegates cross over and cost Obama the nomination. That's why it will never happen. Kind of like unions, it's basically organized extortion.

Saint John wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

Barb wrote:Rush's plan could backfire on him. Hillary is now more electable than Obama.

Unfortunately, unless there's a scandal that takes Obama out or the super delegates vote for Hillary, he is going to be the next Democrat nominee for President. If the super delegates go for Hillary and that gets her the nomination, the Democratic party as we know it will implode.

Blacks across this country will riot, loot and pretty much destroy every inner-city shit hole in this country if those super delegates cross over and cost Obama the nomination. That's why it will never happen. Kind of like unions, it's basically organized extortion.

You know that Hillary wants the nomination worse than a divorce from Bill, though, right?

Barb wrote:Rush's plan could backfire on him. Hillary is now more electable than Obama.

I was waiting for someone to be honest enough and not too partisan to come in here. It took what, 7 posts?

Barb is right.

Look here:

Clinton v McCain- http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/C ... Mar25.html

Obama v McCain- http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/O ... Mar25.html

Obama CANNOT win. It will only get worse thanks to good ol Rev Wright. Plus the fact Obama isn't the goody two shoes most thought he was.

conversationpc wrote:

Barb wrote:Rush's plan could backfire on him. Hillary is now more electable than Obama.

Unfortunately, unless there's a scandal that takes Obama out or the super delegates vote for Hillary, he is going to be the next Democrat nominee for President. If the super delegates go for Hillary and that gets her the nomination, the Democratic party as we know it will implode.

I agree, but I don't think Obama will win in the general election against McCain. The Wright story won't be forgotten, and I'm sure there is more to come.

Saint John wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

Barb wrote:Rush's plan could backfire on him. Hillary is now more electable than Obama.

Unfortunately, unless there's a scandal that takes Obama out or the super delegates vote for Hillary, he is going to be the next Democrat nominee for President. If the super delegates go for Hillary and that gets her the nomination, the Democratic party as we know it will implode.

Blacks across this country will riot, loot and pretty much destroy every inner-city shit hole in this country if those super delegates cross over and cost Obama the nomination. That's why it will never happen. Kind of like unions, it's basically organized extortion.

Better than "organized corruption" like we have in the White House now. You will never successfully defend this shit Admin St Joan. Give up now mam.

Fact Finder wrote:Dean Dean Dean...

What Lie Finder should be entitling is the blatant scumbag way the State Dept breached the Passports of Obama, Clinton and McCain. But no, no comment on that episode.

I got yer comment right here bro....read and weep dude...there is a reason that little episde has disappeared

From CNN no less

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The CEO of a company whose employee is accused of improperly looking at the passport files of presidential candidates is a consultant to the Barack Obama campaign, a source said Saturday. John O. Brennan, president and CEO of the Analysis Corp., advises the Illinois Democrat on foreign policy and intelligence issues, the source said.

Brennan briefed the media on behalf of the campaign this month.

The executive is a former senior CIA official and former interim director of the National Counterterrorism Center.

He contributed $2,300 to the Obama campaign in January

love that CNN dont you... if it were from FOX News, Dean would call you a liar..

I have never been more ready for a presidential season to finally come to an end. I am so sick of both sides and the crap being flung in all directions. At some point they have to start acting like adults who want to really do something for the country and not just something for themselves.

Scarab Pilot wrote:I have never been more ready for a presidential season to finally come to an end. I am so sick of both sides and the crap being flung in all directions. At some point they have to start acting like adults who want to really do something for the country and not just something for themselves.

Amen to that!

Fact Finder wrote:

love that CNN dont you... if it were from FOX News, Dean would call you a liar..

Yeah, I love the way the libs ignored this Hillary episode yesterday. Now that it's all over the News they try an end run with distortions and half-truths. (ie..scumbag State Dept.. read Bush)

I wear the Lie Finder tag proudly today Deano. I found Hills lies and posted them here for you guys. Consider it a public service.

Fact Finder wrote:

Scarab Pilot wrote:I have never been more ready for a presidential season to finally come to an end. I am so sick of both sides and the crap being flung in all directions. At some point they have to start acting like adults who want to really do something for the country and not just something for themselves.

I haven't seen McCain fling any shit yet. In fact he's demanded that his camp be respectful of both of his opponents. Especially the Hussein thingy.

True. But its coming. It's only a matter of time before the real McCain snaps and makes his appearance. He is smart by letting the Dems have their slapfight but when it comes down to the official nominees and the real debates start, I predict we will see ol John pop a vain or two.

Saint John wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

Barb wrote:Rush's plan could backfire on him. Hillary is now more electable than Obama.

Unfortunately, unless there's a scandal that takes Obama out or the super delegates vote for Hillary, he is going to be the next Democrat nominee for President. If the super delegates go for Hillary and that gets her the nomination, the Democratic party as we know it will implode.

Blacks across this country will riot, loot and pretty much destroy every inner-city shit hole in this country if those super delegates cross over and cost Obama the nomination. That's why it will never happen. Kind of like unions, it's basically organized extortion.

I'm not sure about unions in general, but the one I belong to does not extort. We negotiate with the company for better pay and working conditions. Nothing wrong with that. Upper management in big business is like a runaway train. They only negotiate with the board for their raises, promising lower labor costs and higher profit margins. Our work force just took a 33% cut in pay and benefits all the while upper management paid themselves hundreds of millions in bonuses and stock options. If you want to point the finger at the bad guy, it isn't the working man, it's corporate America's upper managers.

There's nothing wrong with the average working man making a decent living in this country, and that used to be common place, but those same upper managers have all but destroyed that notion. Their pay has increased exponentially over the past 25 years, while working class peoples pay has declined when compared to the cost of living. Mine has severely. I would have to work 80 hours a week to get paid what I should be getting paid if my pay and benefits had kept up with the cost of living. On top of that, I'm paying $270.00 a month for insurance now, which I used to pay nothing for. All that is is another pay cut disguised as something else.

I know you GOP hardheads have no sympathy for the working class, who by the way, built this country, so I know I'm wasting my breath. But just wait, when there's nothing left to get from the working class, they'll then take it from you.

Fact Finder wrote:Fuck me to tears... the hits just keep on coming....

Hillary Clinton Told the Bosnia Trip Lie In Another Campaign Speech (WACO TEXAS 2/29/2008)
Youtube | March 25 2008 |



In addition to her telling the Bosnia trip LIE on March 17 2008, she also told “the Bosnia sniper fire” LIE in a campaign speech on February 29 2008:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzDkTUtTGXU


"One of the great honors of being First Lady and of being a senator is the time that I was privileged to spend with our troops here at home, in Iraq and Afghanistan, in Bosnia, Kosovo, and places around the world. I remember particularly a trip to Bosnia where the welcoming ceremony had to be moved inside because of sniper fire." Hillary Clinton- February 29 2008, WACO, TEXAS.

Go Hillary Go....tell it like it is...er..like you want folks to think it was. That's the ticket babe.

Are you saying it is not possible for Hillary to have misspoken twice?

I don't really care if Hillary lied or not. That is trivial bullshit. Who knows, there may have been the possibility of sniper fire, I mean Hell, it is Iraq you know. But seriously,I guess lying about a sniper fire landing in Baghdad, is much worse than breaching passports, outing CIA agents, and going to war, based on lies. Gotcha. Fuck, my priorities are all fucked up.

Rockindeano wrote:Unbelievable-2

I see Lie Finder is all over a piece in which Hillary fucked up and misspoke.

What Lie Finder should be entitling is the blatant scumbag way the State Dept breached the Passports of Obama, Clinton and McCain. But no, no comment on that episode.

Unbelievable-3.

How about asshole Rush Limbaugh directing his minions(brain dead followers), to vote for Hillary in Ohio. One problem. Once you sign up for the Democratic Party, you promise to take on their ideals and convictions. People lied and laughed it off. What exactly is this? Well, it's typical scumbag GOP tactics but more importantly it's possibly and probably voter fraud. Congratulations Rush.

That's what's truly UNBELIEVABLE.

is it voter fraud to buy votes with cigarettes and whiskey, and thebn bus them to the election, deeno

Fact Finder wrote:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The CEO of a company whose employee is accused of improperly looking at the passport files of presidential candidates is a consultant to the Barack Obama campaign, a source said Saturday. John O. Brennan, president and CEO of the Analysis Corp., advises the Illinois Democrat on foreign policy and intelligence issues, the source said.

Brennan briefed the media on behalf of the campaign this month.

The executive is a former senior CIA official and former interim director of the National Counterterrorism Center.

He contributed $2,300 to the Obama campaign in January

Yes, I am aware of this. Does not in anyway excuse the State Department of lazy oversight. Rice is responsible for this shit.

Rockindeano wrote:

Saint John wrote:

conversationpc wrote:

Barb wrote:Rush's plan could backfire on him. Hillary is now more electable than Obama.

Unfortunately, unless there's a scandal that takes Obama out or the super delegates vote for Hillary, he is going to be the next Democrat nominee for President. If the super delegates go for Hillary and that gets her the nomination, the Democratic party as we know it will implode.

Blacks across this country will riot, loot and pretty much destroy every inner-city shit hole in this country if those super delegates cross over and cost Obama the nomination. That's why it will never happen. Kind of like unions, it's basically organized extortion.

Better than "organized corruption" like we have in the White House now. You will never successfully defend this shit Admin St Joan. Give up now mam.

This administration has been very good to me. No complaints, no whining. Pre-Clinton Al-Qaeda was operating in approximately 5 countries and when he left office they were operating in approximately 250. That's a tough mess to clean up, buddy.

sniper16 wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:Unbelievable-2

I see Lie Finder is all over a piece in which Hillary fucked up and misspoke.

What Lie Finder should be entitling is the blatant scumbag way the State Dept breached the Passports of Obama, Clinton and McCain. But no, no comment on that episode.

Unbelievable-3.

How about asshole Rush Limbaugh directing his minions(brain dead followers), to vote for Hillary in Ohio. One problem. Once you sign up for the Democratic Party, you promise to take on their ideals and convictions. People lied and laughed it off. What exactly is this? Well, it's typical scumbag GOP tactics but more importantly it's possibly and probably voter fraud. Congratulations Rush.

That's what's truly UNBELIEVABLE.

is it voter fraud to buy votes with cigarettes and whiskey, and thebn bus them to the election, deeno

Prove it happened. And who's to say only one party did/does it.

The GOP is so much more corrupt, it isn't even close.

Saint John wrote:
This administration has been very good to me. No complaints, no whining. Pre-Clinton Al-Qaeda was operating in approximately 5 countries and when he left office they were operating in approximately 250. That's a tough mess to clean up, buddy.

You prove that to me, I will blow you.

The tough mess to clean up is the mess this assbeaver is leaving.

Fact Finder wrote:Btw Hill, a million words a day works out to 695 words a minute. That's without sleep. At 16 hours in a working day that is 1042 words per minute. I know she talks alot and most of those words are "well, you, know, and I, it just seems impossible. She's gotta eat sometime.

Dude, I can do that. Ask Dan.

Fact Finder wrote:

Rockindeano wrote:

Fact Finder wrote:Btw Hill, a million words a day works out to 695 words a minute. That's without sleep. At 16 hours in a working day that is 1042 words per minute. I know she talks alot and most of those words are "well, you, know, and I, it just seems impossible. She's gotta eat sometime.

Dude, I can do that. Ask Dan.

I don't doubt that at all.

ps, she wasn't in Baghdad she was in Tuzla,Bosnia. Try and keep up will ya.

Whatever. It all looks the same. Sand and destruction.

Rockindeano wrote:I don't really care if Hillary lied or not. That is trivial bullshit. Who knows, there may have been the possibility of sniper fire, I mean Hell, it is Iraq you know. But seriously,I guess lying about a sniper fire landing in Baghdad, is much worse than breaching passports, outing CIA agents, and going to war, based on lies. Gotcha. Fuck, my priorities are all fucked up.

1) I believe she was / wasn't taking sniper fire in Bosnia, not Iraq, but I'm sure you just misspoke

2) Breaching FBI files >= breaching passports

3) Who was it that "outed" a CIA agent again? Oh yeah, that neo-con Richard Armitage

4) "Going to war based on lies..." - sigh