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This morning in my box I got an email from a friend saying that he had attached a "Leaked" copy of the instrumental "revelation" from the forthcoming journey album. Apparently this is going around, so I figured I'd stop it before it got anywhere here... Yes. It's a full instrumental track. Yes. It's called Revelation. Yes. It's brand new. Yes, parts of it SOUND like Journey (distinct few..) No. It's not Journey. It's Satriani. And track number 5 on his brand new album is an instrumental called "revelation".

If you get the email - or see it posted.

IT"S A FAKE.

Now you know.

venomnation wrote:This morning in my box I got an email from a friend saying that he had attached a "Leaked" copy of the instrumental "revelation" from the forthcoming journey album. Apparently this is going around, so I figured I'd stop it before it got anywhere here... Yes. It's a full instrumental track. Yes. It's called Revelation. Yes. It's brand new. Yes, parts of it SOUND like Journey (distinct few..) No. It's not Journey. It's Satriani. And track number 5 on his brand new album is an instrumental called "revelation".

If you get the email - or see it posted.

IT"S A FAKE.

Now you know.

Thanks for the heads-up!

Since when is SATRIANI a FAKE? ....specially compared to Neal!?

Neal is an all-around better player than Satriani, and as it pertains specifically to melodic rock (meshing your guitar with a singer's voice...Perry most noticably) he flat out blows him away. That said, Satch is an amazing guitarist.

venomnation wrote:This morning in my box I got an email from a friend saying that he had attached a "Leaked" copy of the instrumental "revelation" from the forthcoming journey album. Apparently this is going around, so I figured I'd stop it before it got anywhere here... Yes. It's a full instrumental track. Yes. It's called Revelation. Yes. It's brand new. Yes, parts of it SOUND like Journey (distinct few..) No. It's not Journey. It's Satriani. And track number 5 on his brand new album is an instrumental called "revelation".

If you get the email - or see it posted.

IT"S A FAKE.

Now you know.

Journeys not Journey either lol

Saint John wrote:Neal is an all-around better player than Satriani, and as it pertains specifically to melodic rock (meshing your guitar with a singer's voice...Perry most noticably) he flat out blows him away. That said, Satch is an amazing guitarist.

Well you probably think Neal blows Satch, Yngwie & Vai away ,,,, right ?:) all around ...
All 3 guitar players above can and have played MANY melodic songs with great singers too,,,, but if you wanna express your own biased opinion then
yes youre right, Neal blows all guitar players away just like Ross is the best bassplayer around ....all-around

stevew2 wrote:

venomnation wrote:This morning in my box I got an email from a friend saying that he had attached a "Leaked" copy of the instrumental "revelation" from the forthcoming journey album. Apparently this is going around, so I figured I'd stop it before it got anywhere here... Yes. It's a full instrumental track. Yes. It's called Revelation. Yes. It's brand new. Yes, parts of it SOUND like Journey (distinct few..) No. It's not Journey. It's Satriani. And track number 5 on his brand new album is an instrumental called "revelation".

If you get the email - or see it posted.

IT"S A FAKE.

Now you know.

Journeys not Journey either lol

Steve, you stinker!

Behshad wrote:

Saint John wrote:Neal is an all-around better player than Satriani, and as it pertains specifically to melodic rock (meshing your guitar with a singer's voice...Perry most noticably) he flat out blows him away. That said, Satch is an amazing guitarist.

Well you probably think Neal blows Satch, Yngwie & Vai away ,,,, right ?:) all around ...
All 3 guitar players above can and have played MANY melodic songs with great singers too,,,, but if you wanna express your own biased opinion then
yes youre right, Neal blows all guitar players away just like Ross is the best bassplayer around ....all-around

How do you figure your OPINION is any better or more valid than St. John's?

In my opinion Neal is in the same class as the others you mention. And, no Ross is clearly not the best bass player around.....in my opinion.

stevew2 wrote:

venomnation wrote:This morning in my box I got an email from a friend saying that he had attached a "Leaked" copy of the instrumental "revelation" from the forthcoming journey album. Apparently this is going around, so I figured I'd stop it before it got anywhere here... Yes. It's a full instrumental track. Yes. It's called Revelation. Yes. It's brand new. Yes, parts of it SOUND like Journey (distinct few..) No. It's not Journey. It's Satriani. And track number 5 on his brand new album is an instrumental called "revelation".

If you get the email - or see it posted.

IT"S A FAKE.

Now you know.

Journeys not Journey either lol

They are just as much Journey now as they've ever been. Steve Perry didn't create Journey. It was there before he joined, dude.

SF-Dano wrote:

Behshad wrote:

Saint John wrote:Neal is an all-around better player than Satriani, and as it pertains specifically to melodic rock (meshing your guitar with a singer's voice...Perry most noticably) he flat out blows him away. That said, Satch is an amazing guitarist.

Well you probably think Neal blows Satch, Yngwie & Vai away ,,,, right ?:) all around ...
All 3 guitar players above can and have played MANY melodic songs with great singers too,,,, but if you wanna express your own biased opinion then
yes youre right, Neal blows all guitar players away just like Ross is the best bassplayer around ....all-around

How do you figure your OPINION is any better or more valid than St. John's?

In my opinion Neal is in the same class as the others you mention. And, no Ross is clearly not the best bass player around.....in my opinion.

I never said it's MY opinion,,,
I go by what each guitar player can actually do,, not what I personally prefer,,,,
In many people's opinion in this forum Neal is better than ANY guitar player,,,, but if you wanna give each guitar player a fair chance and actually give them points for each skill, you will see that Neal is NOT the same class as Vai for example,,,, not MY opinion, just the fact in the world of guitar and guitar players,,,,, If you wanna go by radio and hit songs, Neal is better than all of them and then some ....

would someone PLEASE go pick neal darling up off the floor, after he read Revelation and LEAK.

thank you.

Maybe that explains why Journey ridiculously named their instrumental "The Journey Revelation". Neal is tight with Satch so I am sure he knew of the other song.

jrnyman28 wrote:Maybe that explains why Journey ridiculously named their instrumental "The Journey Revelation". Neal is tight with Satch so I am sure he knew of the other song.

didnt they record in the same studio around the same time??? I thought I read it in a Satch fan mail a while back that he said he heard Neal and the boyz jamming and it sounded good,,,,

eh, Petrucci's better than all of them... but I do think that melodicly, few can best Neal...

Rick wrote:

stevew2 wrote:

venomnation wrote:This morning in my box I got an email from a friend saying that he had attached a "Leaked" copy of the instrumental "revelation" from the forthcoming journey album. Apparently this is going around, so I figured I'd stop it before it got anywhere here... Yes. It's a full instrumental track. Yes. It's called Revelation. Yes. It's brand new. Yes, parts of it SOUND like Journey (distinct few..) No. It's not Journey. It's Satriani. And track number 5 on his brand new album is an instrumental called "revelation".

If you get the email - or see it posted.

IT"S A FAKE.

Now you know.

Journeys not Journey either lol

They are just as much Journey now as they've ever been. Steve Perry didn't create Journey. It was there before he joined, dude.

I know, just know one knew who they were

jrnyman28 wrote:Maybe that explains why Journey ridiculously named their instrumental "The Journey Revelation". Neal is tight with Satch so I am sure he knew of the other song.

Jesus Christ, you would've thought they would've seen this coming down the pike and worked something out. Like the Stones and beatles used to plan and stagger releases out accordingly.

IMO, Journey gets the dirty end of the stick in the great Revelation song title debate.
Why not both use the title for the song anyway, that's happened before?

My guess is about 500 more thousand people are going to buy Revelation than will buy the Satriani thing.

Behshad wrote:

SF-Dano wrote:

Behshad wrote:

Saint John wrote:Neal is an all-around better player than Satriani, and as it pertains specifically to melodic rock (meshing your guitar with a singer's voice...Perry most noticably) he flat out blows him away. That said, Satch is an amazing guitarist.

Well you probably think Neal blows Satch, Yngwie & Vai away ,,,, right ?:) all around ...
All 3 guitar players above can and have played MANY melodic songs with great singers too,,,, but if you wanna express your own biased opinion then
yes youre right, Neal blows all guitar players away just like Ross is the best bassplayer around ....all-around

How do you figure your OPINION is any better or more valid than St. John's?

In my opinion Neal is in the same class as the others you mention. And, no Ross is clearly not the best bass player around.....in my opinion.

I never said it's MY opinion,,,
I go by what each guitar player can actually do,, not what I personally prefer,,,,
In many people's opinion in this forum Neal is better than ANY guitar player,,,, but if you wanna give each guitar player a fair chance and actually give them points for each skill, you will see that Neal is NOT the same class as Vai for example,,,, not MY opinion, just the fact in the world of guitar and guitar players,,,,, If you wanna go by radio and hit songs, Neal is better than all of them and then some ....

What is your criteria for skill? For example Yngwie has great technique, speed and cleanliness to his playing and a very "classical" style to most his playing. Vai is pretty much the same except he can bring out more of a jazz influence in his playing. Stevie Ray Vaughn was a master blues player. I have never heard anyone "emote" more "feeling" in their playing catalog than Neal Schon.

What I am getting at is - there are alot of different "skills" a guitarist can have. If you solely base who is "best" on technical skill (ie. speed, cleanliness, and technique), then you are only experiencing half of what a guitarist has to offer. And don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Yngwie, Satch, Morse, Moore, McAlpine, etc. Some of Vai's solo stuff is a little "out there" jazzy for my tastes, but I still do recognize him as a superior player. Personally, I do not think anyone can ever be called the "best" guitar player. There are simply to many different criteria that can be used. It would be interesting to rate players at 1 to 10 in several differing categories. I think numerically, those you and I have mentioned would all come in very close together.

Sorry for the rambling.

SF-Dano wrote:Moore, McAlpine, etc.

Ah...so you know of Project: Driver then....I too am a fan of MacALpine....

If you combine traits like versatility, originality, emotion, technicality, tone, speed, rhythm, and lead....

....Schon is definitely in an elite group with fellows like Petrucci, Satriani, Vai, Malmsteen, Lukather, Van Halen, Lynch, Beach, Howe, Fripp, Zappa, and Lifeson.

Can't name any guitarist the best, especially once you get to this echelon. Satriani and Schon are pretty much equals in my eyes, except Schon plays with less "flash" and Satriani plays with less "feeling."

Now if you throw overrated axemen like Cobain, Richards, Angus Young, Jack White, etc. into the mix, then we can begin discussing guitarists owning one another.

ProgRocker53 wrote:Now if you throw overrated axemen like Cobain, Richards, Jack White, etc. into the mix, then we can begin discussing guitarists owning one another.

Cobain = sucked. (And single handedly responsible for making perfectly normal kids weird-asses in junior high)
Jack White = That's not playing. That's glorified strumming... sounds like a squirrel caught in a tractor's nuts.

Rhiannon wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:Now if you throw overrated axemen like Cobain, Richards, Jack White, etc. into the mix, then we can begin discussing guitarists owning one another.

Cobain = sucked. (And single handedly responsible for making perfectly normal kids weird-asses in junior high)
Jack White = That's not playing. That's glorified strumming... sounds like a squirrel caught in a tractor's nuts.

I like alot of "grunge"/"alternative" bands from the 90s but Cobain and Nirvana piss me off to the tenth degree. Never have I seen so much admiration heaped upon such a medicore band. Besides, all they did was rip off the Pixies and various obscure hardcore bands. Horrible group.

That said, Dave Grohl kicks ass.

You're right SF-dano,,, no one can say which guitar player is the BEST,,, way too many great guitar players out there ,,, more than half of them are not even famous.....

Here's one less known guitar player that can play stuff Satch,Yngwie,Vai and Neal can NOT play as smoothly and precise.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8uGnIMe73U

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F7m3aIuGlUg

Rhiannon wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:Now if you throw overrated axemen like Cobain, Richards, Jack White, etc. into the mix, then we can begin discussing guitarists owning one another.

Cobain = sucked. (And single handedly responsible for making perfectly normal kids weird-asses in junior high)
Jack White = That's not playing. That's glorified strumming... sounds like a squirrel caught in a tractor's nuts.

Tractors have nuts?

mistiejourney wrote:

Rhiannon wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:Now if you throw overrated axemen like Cobain, Richards, Jack White, etc. into the mix, then we can begin discussing guitarists owning one another.

Cobain = sucked. (And single handedly responsible for making perfectly normal kids weird-asses in junior high)
Jack White = That's not playing. That's glorified strumming... sounds like a squirrel caught in a tractor's nuts.

Tractors have nuts?

they sure do,,,, and you can get gonorrhea from them if you ride one while wearing your swimming suit,,,

Behshad wrote:

mistiejourney wrote:

Rhiannon wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:Now if you throw overrated axemen like Cobain, Richards, Jack White, etc. into the mix, then we can begin discussing guitarists owning one another.

Cobain = sucked. (And single handedly responsible for making perfectly normal kids weird-asses in junior high)
Jack White = That's not playing. That's glorified strumming... sounds like a squirrel caught in a tractor's nuts.

Tractors have nuts?

they sure do,,,, and you can get gonorrhea from them if you ride one while wearing your swimming suit,,,

Thank you for fielding that question for me, Behshad... you are absolutely correct. So always practice safe farming!
...Actually, the 'tractor's nuts' line came from Blazing Saddles.

Behshad wrote:You're right SF-dano,,, no one can say which guitar player is the BEST,,, way too many great guitar players out there ,,, more than half of them are not even famous.....

Here's one less known guitar player that can play stuff Satch,Yngwie,Vai and Neal can NOT play as smoothly and precise.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8uGnIMe73U

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F7m3aIuGlUg

lol "guitar nerd"

Behshad wrote:You're right SF-dano,,, no one can say which guitar player is the BEST,,, way too many great guitar players out there ,,, more than half of them are not even famous.....

Here's one less known guitar player that can play stuff Satch,Yngwie,Vai and Neal can NOT play as smoothly and precise.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8uGnIMe73U

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F7m3aIuGlUg

You don't have both fucking oars in the water if you think that guy can play shit Neal can't. Neal's a legend...who's the guy you posted? Your cousin or something?

Saint John wrote:

Behshad wrote:You're right SF-dano,,, no one can say which guitar player is the BEST,,, way too many great guitar players out there ,,, more than half of them are not even famous.....

Here's one less known guitar player that can play stuff Satch,Yngwie,Vai and Neal can NOT play as smoothly and precise.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8uGnIMe73U

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F7m3aIuGlUg

You don't have both fucking oars in the water if you think that guy can play shit Neal can't. Neal's a legend...who's the guy you posted? Your cousin or something?

dude,,,you have NO clue what GUITAR SKILLS are, if you think Neal(or Satch or that matter) can play the stuff this guys plays as accurate an as smoothley,,, again youre blinded by your biased opinion rather than openminded views,,,,, Neal can NEVER play arpeggios as smoothly as this guy does.
Of course you would have to be a guitar player to appreciate this guys skills,,, but for someone who only thinks radio hits are worthy of bonus points, I will cut you some slack

Saint John wrote:

Behshad wrote:You're right SF-dano,,, no one can say which guitar player is the BEST,,, way too many great guitar players out there ,,, more than half of them are not even famous.....

Here's one less known guitar player that can play stuff Satch,Yngwie,Vai and Neal can NOT play as smoothly and precise.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J8uGnIMe73U

http://youtube.com/watch?v=F7m3aIuGlUg

You don't have both fucking oars in the water if you think that guy can play shit Neal can't. Neal's a legend...who's the guy you posted? Your cousin or something?

Dan, if Neal can play that well, then it's too bad Journey has been holding him back all these years

StevePerryHair wrote:Dan, if Neal can play that well, then it's too bad Journey has been holding him back all these years

Sarcasm aside, this is very much true. While Neal has aged some and he's probably not as technically sound as maybe a few years ago, he'd still dust this backwoods fucking hillbilly into submission in about 3 minutes. Where do you find these obscure artists full of nothing more than mediocrity, Behshad? Al Jazeera?