Revelations's Production/Sound Quality

by **Carlitto H@kk** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:50 am

Ok, something is starting to really bug me
and I gotta get it off my man-boobs!

I FINALLY got over to the Frontiers Records MySpace page
to here NWA and the other track in their entirety and I was
NOT impressed and here's why:

The page opened and a song by Jorn started playing.
Not I only did I dig the song (never heard Jorn before) but
the production/sound quality was outstanding.
So I proceeded to play NWA...
HORRIBLE sound quality; muddy, muted, low-volume...

Is this just a lower bitrate file or is this how the entire
album is gonna sound? I sure as hell hope not.
Anyone know if this is the case???

And another thing bugging me about that song.
Either it was a very smart & bold move on the band's part
to record/release a song that is instantly "familiar" so fans will
immediately be able to hum along or it was pure laziness on their part,
re-hashing 20 year old riffs and melodies.
Seriously, this song is a BGTY/Believe In Me cross-breed from hell!

Shit, Neal's "tone" sounds like he coulda laid down these riffs just
minutes after tracking Believe In Me...

Any thouhgts?

by **youkeepmewaiting** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:53 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:Ok, something is starting to really bug me
and I gotta get it off my man-boobs!

I FINALLY got over to the Frontiers Records MySpace page
to here NWA and the other track in their entirety and I was
NOT impressed and here's why:

The page opened and a song by Jorn started playing.
Not I only did I dig the song (never heard Jorn before) but
the production/sound quality was outstanding.
So I proceeded to play NWA...
HORRIBLE sound quality; muddy, muted, low-volume...

Is this just a lower bitrate file or is this how the entire
album is gonna sound? I sure as hell hope not.
Anyone know if this is the case???

And another thing bugging me about that song.
Either it was a very smart & bold move on the band's part
to record/release a song that is instantly "familiar" so fans will
immediately be able to hum along or it was pure laziness on their part,
re-hashing 20 year old riffs and melodies.
Seriously, this song is a BGTY/Believe In Me cross-breed from hell!

Shit, Neal's "tone" sounds like he coulda laid down these riffs just
minutes after tracking Believe In Me...

Any thouhgts?

Re-hashing a already exhausted argument.

And yes, the production doesnt sound great.

by **Carlitto H@kk** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:54 am

youkeepmewaiting wrote:Re-hashing a already exhausted argument.

And yes, the production doesnt sound great.

Well gee, sorry I rehashed something on you...
Guess I've been away too long :roll:

by **Saint John** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:55 am

The song is great, especially live, and sounds nothing like Be Good To Yourself or Believe In Me, but I am worried about the production quality. If it's not better than what I heard on the radio then they're in trouble. I suspect it will be on par with TBF though, which was mixed wonderfully by "The Caveman."

by **Carlitto H@kk** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:57 am

Saint John wrote:The song is great, especially live, and sounds nothing like Be Good To Yourself or Believe In Me, but I am worried about the production quality. If it's not better than what I heard on the radio then they're in trouble. I suspect it will be on par with TBF though, which was mixed wonderfully by "The Caveman."

No doubt, it is a catchy song...
But the sound quality I've heard is actually
worse than Generations...

by **Saint John** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:58 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Saint John wrote:The song is great, especially live, and sounds nothing like Be Good To Yourself or Believe In Me, but I am worried about the production quality. If it's not better than what I heard on the radio then they're in trouble. I suspect it will be on par with TBF though, which was mixed wonderfully by "The Caveman."

No doubt, it is a catchy song...
But the sound quality I've heard is actually
worse than Generations...

Somebody mentioned that the radio stations may have been given a "compressed" version...whatever the fuck that means. They went on to add that to their ears that's what it sounded like. I'll find out June 3rd.

by **jrnyman28** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:58 am

Journey hasn't had a great "sounding" CD since TBF.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:00 am

Plain and simple - we are spoiled.
For those who haven't been following Journey's every move as the band toiled in corn dog circuit obscurity for the past 8 years, NWA is a killer track.
However, the faithful few of us intimately familiar with songs like "Believe in Me" and "Never Too Late," will notice the similarities right away.

It has definately been an obstruction to me getting into the song.
Still, there is plenty to recommend, I think.

by **jrnyman28** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:05 am

I don't know how SJ can say this song sounds nothing like Believe In Me. It is almost the exact same MUSICALLY.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:09 am

Initially, I was more distrated by Arnel's accent on NWA.
Didn't really hear it on the Vegas show clips, but found it really distracting on the studio version for the first few listens.

by **Saint John** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:11 am

jrnyman28 wrote:I don't know how SJ can say this song sounds nothing like Believe In Me. It is almost the exact same MUSICALLY.

Sorry, just don't hear the similarities aside from Neal's guitar.

by **Tito** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:16 am

That song does not sound like Be Good To Yourself at all. Never heard Believe in Me. What's that off of?

by **Rick** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:20 am

Tito wrote:That song does not sound like Be Good To Yourself at all. Never heard Believe in Me. What's that off of?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOAW6Q75FNw

by **jrnyman28** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:21 am

Tito wrote:That song does not sound like Be Good To Yourself at all. Never heard Believe in Me. What's that off of?

JSS I think it is from Lost In Translation. First thing Neal and JSS worked on together.

by **Saint John** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:25 am

Rick wrote:
Tito wrote:That song does not sound like Be Good To Yourself at all. Never heard Believe in Me. What's that off of?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOAW6Q75FNw

Still don't hear it. Decent song, but it has a terrible/no chorus.

by **jrnyman28** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:28 am

SJ, listen to NWA and the BIM back-to-back. That is when I really heard it. I did not remember BIM and I played it right after listening to NWA.

by **Tito** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:29 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
JSS I think it is from Lost In Translation.

Oh. Who cares. It's not like anybody ever heard that song.

Edit: Just listen to it and don' hear any similarities. A little close in the opening guitar, but that's Neal's, so who cares. Again, nobody ever heard it before. It's new to me.

by **The_Noble_Cause** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:29 am

Saint John wrote:Still don't hear it. Decent song, but it has a terrible/no chorus.

Great song, instantly catchy.
Much less of a Greatest Hits patchwork than NWA.

by **Carlitto H@kk** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:30 am

jrnyman28 wrote:
Tito wrote:That song does not sound like Be Good To Yourself at all. Never heard Believe in Me. What's that off of?

JSS I think it is from Lost In Translation. First thing Neal and JSS worked on together.

Don't feed into this guys frenzy...
He knows exactly who sang "Believe In Me" and has heard it :wink:

by **lights1961** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:30 am

after all these years will be the signature song off this cd...

Rick

by **Carlitto H@kk** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:31 am

Saint John wrote:
Rick wrote:
Tito wrote:That song does not sound like Be Good To Yourself at all. Never heard Believe in Me. What's that off of?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOAW6Q75FNw

Still don't hear it. Decent song, but it has a terrible/no chorus.

You must be tone deaf :lol:

by **Tito** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:32 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:Don't feed into this guys frenzy...
He knows exactly who sang "Believe In Me" and has heard it

I swear I never heard that song before.

by **Saint John** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:37 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Rick wrote:
Tito wrote:That song does not sound like Be Good To Yourself at all. Never heard Believe in Me. What's that off of?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOAW6Q75FNw

Still don't hear it. Decent song, but it has a terrible/no chorus.

You must be tone deaf

NWA has a definitive chorus...I just don't hear much differentiation from the body of the song to the chorus with BIM. It doesn't "soar" at all. Very flat chorus, if at all.

by **Tito** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:40 am

Saint John wrote:NWA has a definitive chorus...I just don't hear much differentiation from the body of the song to the chorus with BIM. It doesn't "soar" at all. Very flat chorus, if at all.

It doesn't soar, because Neal was sabotaging JSS even back then. :roll:

by **Carlitto H@kk** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:43 am

Saint John wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Rick wrote:
Tito wrote:That song does not sound like Be Good To Yourself at all. Never heard Believe in Me. What's that off of?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOAW6Q75FNw

Still don't hear it. Decent song, but it has a terrible/no chorus.

You must be tone deaf

NWA has a definitive chorus...I just don't hear much differentiation from the body of the song to the chorus with BIM. It doesn't "soar" at all. Very flat chorus, if at all.

That's fair...
To me, BIM's best "melody" or "riff" is the post-chorus runs,
"Say you wanna come along and go for a ride..."
Those parts of the song just rock.

Similarities and production quality aside,
my only other complaint about NWA is that it
coulda been bumped up a few more BPMs.

Did they play it alittle faster Live?
(I do most of my surfin at work and can't surf YouTube here :cry:

)

by **Saint John** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:47 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:[
Did they play it alittle faster Live?
(I do most of my surfin at work and can't surf YouTube here )

Here it is live (with other songs as well). It's 3rd I believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXIvYIIRCm4

by **Carlitto H@kk** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:49 am

Hey TITO, you freakin' NumbNutz!!!
Your new Av needs adjusted... :lol:

by **Andrew** » Fri May 16, 2008 11:09 am

Carlitto H@kk wrote:HORRIBLE sound quality; muddy, muted, low-volume...

Is this just a lower bitrate file or is this how the entire
album is gonna sound? I sure as hell hope not.
Anyone know if this is the case???
Any thouhgts?

ALL the samples sound SHITEOUS!!!!!!!!!

It's just the encoding/bitrate/compression.

The finished product will not sound anywhere near what these samples sound like.

by **lowdbrent** » Fri May 16, 2008 11:54 am

Andrew wrote:
Carlitto H@kk wrote:HORRIBLE sound quality; muddy, muted, low-volume...

Is this just a lower bitrate file or is this how the entire
album is gonna sound? I sure as hell hope not.
Anyone know if this is the case???
Any thouhgts?

ALL the samples sound SHITEOUS!!!!!!!!!

It's just the encoding/bitrate/compression.

The finished product will not sound anywhere near what these samples sound like.

It is a smart move I think. Once high quality MP3s are on the web, they are free and the albums won't fly from the shelves.

by **tanga** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:23 pm

Bitches, Complaint, Fuckin Whineres, music is all the same, either like it or don't buy it. Get a freaking life.

MR

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