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I was just reading St. John's signature, which is quoted from Neal's GQ follow-up. Neal hasn't quite been so nasty before in public, to my knowledge. We know that whatever agreement there was between SP and the Journey organization expired, which is what has allowed them to re-create the classics. I wonder if there was some sort of gag order that also expired, which allowed Neal to finally publically say what he truly wanted to say to/about Perry. And if that's the case, I'm wondering what other gems might be forthcoming...

Does anyone have any info or thoughts on this?

You’d think that after a while, everybody would grow up and be able to talk, one on one. But it just hasn’t happened. I’ve been wanting to set that straight for a while. It’s the truth. So fuck him.

donnaplease wrote:I was just reading St. John's signature, which is quoted from Neal's GQ follow-up. Neal hasn't quite been so nasty before in public, to my knowledge. We know that whatever agreement there was between SP and the Journey organization expired, which is what has allowed them to re-create the classics. I wonder if there was some sort of gag order that also expired, which allowed Neal to finally publically say what he truly wanted to say to/about Perry. And if that's the case, I'm wondering what other gems might be forthcoming...

Does anyone have any info or thoughts on this?

You’d think that after a while, everybody would grow up and be able to talk, one on one. But it just hasn’t happened. I’ve been wanting to set that straight for a while. It’s the truth. So fuck him.

At the same time I question Neal's attitude here, yet understand his feelings and motives for doing so.

I was wondering the same thing, as I know there WAS a gag order. Herbert talked about it years ago. Yet Neal says "There is no gag order". Makes me think along your lines, that it must have expired at the same time that the songs got freed up for the re-record. I'd love to hear more about what happened (just out of curiousity), because you KNOW that there's more to this story than what's surfaced!

Hey Donna, I must state that my sig is actually 2 separate quotes from the interview that I combined to sort of run seamlessly. Either way, He said "So fuck him." I wonder if it felt as good for Neal to say that as it did for me to read it. I'm elated that their 1st ammendment rights have been restored.

Coincidentally, Perry and Journey ended on May 8, 1998 - almost exactly 10 years ago. They definitely were prohibited from re-recording the classics until now. I wonder if anything else expired on that date.

I'm beginning to think that Steve suffered more than exhaustion and joint issues. If he had a nervous breakdown
which can happen from a lot of things that build up over time. It could have brought on chronic fatigue syndrome and even
post traumatic stress syndrome, then he really can't go there again.

He has hidden it well if so and done the best he
could with managing his life, after all he's a human. If he couldn't go on then he had to shut down and
maybe he truly cannot perform for health reasons.

Barb wrote:Coincidentally, Perry and Journey ended on May 8, 1998 - almost exactly 10 years ago. They definitely were prohibited from re-recording the classics until now. I wonder if anything else expired on that date.

I think this cranberry juice I had earlier did... ugh... shit's rancid.

ProgRocker53 wrote:

Barb wrote:Coincidentally, Perry and Journey ended on May 8, 1998 - almost exactly 10 years ago. They definitely were prohibited from re-recording the classics until now. I wonder if anything else expired on that date.

I think this cranberry juice I had earlier did... ugh... shit's rancid.

i didnt thinks that shit went bad. Add some absolute to it, it ll come back to life

Saint John wrote:Hey Donna, I must state that my sig is actually 2 separate quotes from the interview that I combined to sort of run seamlessly. Either way, He said "So fuck him." I wonder if it felt as good for Neal to say that as it did for me to read it. I'm elated that their 1st ammendment rights have been restored.

Thanks for the clarification. I'd have to go back and re-read the interview (which I'm not interested in doing), but I think I remember the 'fuck him' part at the end when he so bitterly complains about SP sitting at home raking in the royalties of what the band makes while they're out touring. I can actually understand his bitterness about that, if he wasn't such a jerk about the rest of the stuff. Then again, it was SP that worked on the remasters, which I'm sure Neal & Co. benefits from too. So it goes both ways, I guess.

Now, as for your bitterness toward SP...

donnaplease wrote: Now, as for your bitterness toward SP...

We've worked it out. Look for me to receive "thank you" in the liner notes of his next release.

donnaplease wrote:Does anyone have any info or thoughts on this?

You’d think that after a while, everybody would grow up and be able to talk, one on one. But it just hasn’t happened. I’ve been wanting to set that straight for a while. It’s the truth. So fuck him.

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I have some thoughts on it...Thanks for asking Fuck Neal! No matter what a brilliant musician I have always considered him to be, he is a classless fuck!


John from Boston

ProgRocker53 wrote:

Barb wrote:Coincidentally, Perry and Journey ended on May 8, 1998 - almost exactly 10 years ago. They definitely were prohibited from re-recording the classics until now. I wonder if anything else expired on that date.

I think this cranberry juice I had earlier did... ugh... shit's rancid.

You drank that straight? I thought that was a mixer.

Rick wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:

Barb wrote:Coincidentally, Perry and Journey ended on May 8, 1998 - almost exactly 10 years ago. They definitely were prohibited from re-recording the classics until now. I wonder if anything else expired on that date.

I think this cranberry juice I had earlier did... ugh... shit's rancid.

You drank that straight? I thought that was a mixer.

Ah to be young again....

ProgRocker53 wrote:I think this cranberry juice I had earlier

WTF??? Do you have a urinary tract infection or something?

Enigma869 wrote:I have some thoughts on it...Thanks for asking Fuck Neal! No matter what a brilliant musician I have always considered him to be, he is a classless fuck!


John from Boston

But John, how do you really feel, you know, deep down?

Go read the old interviews. Neak akways took the low road and Perry stuck to the music and not insults !

squirt1 wrote:Go read the old interviews. Neak akways took the low road and Perry stuck to the music and not insults !

This is like saying a rape victim has no right to insult their assaulter. Neal had shit to be pissed about...Perry didn't.

Sorry abt the typos. I need my glasses on more and more.

squirt1 wrote:Go read the old interviews. Neak akways took the low road and Perry stuck to the music and not insults !

Maybe there was a reason for that. Until you really KNOW what went on between the 2 sides, you can't accuse Neal of taking the low road. Maybe he did, but maybe he was justifiably pissed off. I'm done trying to analyze it.

Saint John wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:I think this cranberry juice I had earlier

WTF??? Do you have a urinary tract infection or something?

It keeps him "Regular"!

These guys were adults. Neal was so upset about his loss ($$$)he threw huge verbal bitter fits over the years. Read back then. I am just saying the verbal assult was never returned.

I just had another thought (2 in one day... no wonder I'm so exhausted!)...

Does anyone else find it ironic that Neal is whining about how he's tried in vain to talk to SP and the big bad meanie won't give him his number, but then again we all know that he didn't have the common courtesy to give SA or JSS a call before or after throwing them under the bus? Things that make you go hmmmm.....

donnaplease wrote:I just had another thought (2 in one day... no wonder I'm so exhausted!)...

Does anyone else find it ironic that Neal is whining about how he's tried in vain to talk to SP and the big bad meanie won't give him his number, but then again we all know that he didn't have the common courtesy to give SA or JSS a call before or after throwing them under the bus? Things that make you go hmmmm.....

Whining? I didn't hear any whining. None of us knows if Journey are in contact with SA, only that they are not with JSS, which I agree is shiteous of them.

Saint John wrote:

donnaplease wrote: Now, as for your bitterness toward SP...

We've worked it out. Look for me to receive "thank you" in the liner notes of his next release.

I'm so happy to hear that. I can't wait for your next phone call telling me when the CD will be released!

Interesting to see that there's just as many posts discussing my glass of cranberry juice, as there was Journey.

Sometimes a fella just likes a glass of cranberry juice, but I think there was something wrong with this batch. Egh. Gonna have to check the label on the carton later to make sure.

G.I.Jim wrote:

Saint John wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:I think this cranberry juice I had earlier

WTF??? Do you have a urinary tract infection or something?

It keeps him "Regular"!

Prog needs some prune juice if he want's to be regular. A gallon should help!

ProgRocker53 wrote:Interesting to see that there's just as many posts discussing my glass of cranberry juice, as there was Journey.

Sometimes a fella just likes a glass of cranberry juice, but I think there was something wrong with this batch. Egh. Gonna have to check the label on the carton later to make sure.

I'll tell you what was wrong with it. It wasn't mixed with fucking vodka.

Rick wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:Interesting to see that there's just as many posts discussing my glass of cranberry juice, as there was Journey.

Sometimes a fella just likes a glass of cranberry juice, but I think there was something wrong with this batch. Egh. Gonna have to check the label on the carton later to make sure.

I'll tell you what was wrong with it. It wasn't mixed with fucking vodka.

Well if i was twenty-fucking-one then MAYBE, just MAYBE, there'd be some vodka in there.

donnaplease wrote:

Saint John wrote:

donnaplease wrote: Now, as for your bitterness toward SP...

We've worked it out. Look for me to receive "thank you" in the liner notes of his next release.

I'm so happy to hear that. I can't wait for your next phone call telling me when the CD will be released!

Just for that smart ass comment I'm thinking 3 am Saturday morning.

Saint John wrote:

donnaplease wrote:

Saint John wrote:

donnaplease wrote: Now, as for your bitterness toward SP...

We've worked it out. Look for me to receive "thank you" in the liner notes of his next release.

I'm so happy to hear that. I can't wait for your next phone call telling me when the CD will be released!

Just for that smart ass comment I'm thinking 3 am Saturday morning.

Honey, if it's a call telling me SP is releasing a new CD, you can call me anytime!!!!