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In all this talk about who is right or wrong..who did or didn't say what about who..what they should or shouldn't do..what fan can argue his passion the hardest..etc..
It's hard to sometimes read between the lines and figure out who is just flat out happy for Arnel..and do we really..really..really get where he is now from what he came from and has been through..so..who is just thrilled for him and his story..flat out..just for that..for him..or is hard to just be happy for him if you still harbor some bad feelings..anyway..who had his story really hit..I keep shaking my head and just say..wow..when I think about him and all this..have watched the interview a few times and just keep shaking my head..kudos..

The lead singer position in Journey makes dreams come true. They did it for Perry, Augeri, and now Pineda.

Saint John wrote:The lead singer position in Journey makes dreams come true. They did it for Perry, Augeri, and now Pineda.

So true.. Arnel's just touches me a bit more for personal reasons that are a bit too deep to talk about..

I think it's great for him. However, let's not treat him like he's little orphan Annie, plucked out of a tragedy to instant stardom. He was a relatively successful performer in his home country and in HongKong and he has a family that he is supposedly very happy with. I don't think this is the rags to riches story that some are trying to make it out to be (not talking about anyone in particular here).

That said, I wish the man well.

Before the herd comes thundering in like it's 2 Big Macs for 2 bucks I should clarify that my initial post should have said "The position did it for Perry..." "They" is a bit inappropriate since Herbie hired Perry, and Augeri and Pineda were hired by Neal and Jon (to the best of my knowledge).

I am very happy for him. I just hope he doesn't suffer the same fate as his predecessors. He seems too nice for that.

Arnel's life is a story about triumph against adversity that pulls the hearstrings in most of us. It is a story that should inspire all of us whatever state of life we are in.

Luvsaugeri wrote:I am very happy for him. I just hope he doesn't suffer the same fate as his predecessors. He seems too nice for that.

I won't comment on Jeff, but I can assure you that Augeri has no problems accepting whatever it was that happened when he realizes that he never has to set an alarm clock again.

Saint John wrote:

Luvsaugeri wrote:I am very happy for him. I just hope he doesn't suffer the same fate as his predecessors. He seems too nice for that.

I won't comment on Jeff, but I can assure you that Augeri has no problems accepting whatever it was that happened when he realizes that he never has to set an alarm clock again.

And he wasn't blind to it..as he was directly a part of it..by saying what I am about to say..I fear I will be the one to drive my thread off..but..Augeri is/was a grown man..granted..I do not know everything he felt he HAD to do for whatever reasons..BUT we all are capable of making choices..which he did..

piecesofeight wrote:

Saint John wrote:

Luvsaugeri wrote:I am very happy for him. I just hope he doesn't suffer the same fate as his predecessors. He seems too nice for that.

I won't comment on Jeff, but I can assure you that Augeri has no problems accepting whatever it was that happened when he realizes that he never has to set an alarm clock again.

And he wasn't blind to it..as he was directly a part of it..by saying what I am about to say..I fear I will be the one to drive my thread off..but..Augeri is/was a grown man..granted..I do not know everything he felt he HAD to do for whatever reasons..BUT we all are capable of making choices..which he did..

BINGO. He signed his name on for a tour and couldn't come through. As unscrupulous as it was, and I will never downplay what they did, the guys did have bail his ass out. Again, Augeri merely has to look at his bank account and the millions of dollars in it if he's ever feeling sorry for himself.

This isn't the thread to discuss who was or wasn't treated badly.

Let's just keep it as good luck to Arnel. I wish him the best.

Luvsaugeri wrote:This isn't the thread to discuss who was or wasn't treated badly.

Let's just keep it as good luck to Arnel. I wish him the best.

Great point.

Arnel seems like a gentle soul. I think all of Journey may become better people for having him around.

Barb wrote:Arnel seems like a gentle soul. I think all of Journey may become better people for having him around.

So is SA. It doesn't appear he helped them become better people for it.

But I sure hope you are right.

Luvsaugeri wrote:

Barb wrote:Arnel seems like a gentle soul. I think all of Journey may become better people for having him around.

So is SA. It doesn't appear he helped them become better people for it.

But I sure hope you are right.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing...how friga said in that interview on cbs how he's a better person around arnel?

Laughable. If there's ever a guy that would take a perfectly good lung out of his chest to give to a complete stranger gasping for breath, it's steve augeri. I call BS on cain....

Is it safe to say that Cain is Journey's biggest douchebag of all time?

Anyway, I'm happy Journey's got such a great fella in Arnel. I know it's more like rags-to-not rags-to-riches than rags-to-riches, but it's still a great story and I'm looking forward to at least a few more years of Journey albums and tours with the third nice guy in a row at the helm!

Saint John wrote:The lead singer position in Journey makes dreams come true. They did it for Perry, Augeri, and now Pineda.

Well, lets not get carried away. Give credit where credit is due. The accurate answer is the lead singer position in Journey makes dreams come true today, LONG AFTER the band made it to the top of the world and established its enormous and loyal fan base who now go to the shows to hear the GH's. Journey didn't have that before Steve Perry. They didn't have the dirty dozen before him. Journey, with Steve Perry, struggled and climbed to the top together. He is a large part of why we are all even in this chat room. Everyone other singer after him is stepping into his shoes to be him.

That being said, this is a dream come true for Arnel. Long time coming for such a talented guy and I'm thrilled to support him. His heart breaking personal history makes his new position as Journey's lead singer all the more meaningful.

STORY_TELLER wrote:

Saint John wrote:The lead singer position in Journey makes dreams come true. They did it for Perry, Augeri, and now Pineda.

Well, lets not get carried away. Give credit where credit is due. The accurate answer is the lead singer position in Journey makes dreams come true today, LONG AFTER the band made it to the top of the world and established its enormous and loyal fan base who now go to the shows to hear the GH's. Journey didn't have that before Steve Perry. They didn't have the dirty dozen before him. Journey, with Steve Perry, struggled and climbed to the top together. He is a large part of why we are all even in this chat room. Everyone other singer after him is stepping into his shoes to be him.

That being said, this is a dream come true for Arnel. Long time coming for such a talented guy and I'm thrilled to support him. His heart breaking personal history makes his new position as Journey's lead singer all the more meaningful.

Very well said!!

I hate to say this....but Arnel seems very "real" in his position with the band where JSS seemed like a hired pro asked to do some sub work. Arnel for some weird reason..looks like a Journey member. hmm...

[quote="ProgRocker53"]Is it safe to say that Cain is Journey's biggest douchebag of all time?


That was perfect He is such a jerk & a fake at that.I am happy for the new guy.But that is where it ends for me.I do not belive anything they have to say.

Well, Arnel has certainly has me hooked. The guy can flat out sing and then to come across so humble and real, I think he will be a keeper with the band. I just hope he doesn't get acclimated with the music biz and develop the "dreaded LSD"

RocknRoll wrote:Well, Arnel has certainly has me hooked. The guy can flat out sing and then to come across so humble and real, I think he will be a keeper with the band. I just hope he doesn't get acclimated with the music biz and develop the "dreaded LSD"

Ditto. Whenever I see Arnel out there belting the life out of his lungs, or talking in that interview..you could just TELL he's enjoying life. Always smiling and giving off such a special vibe that some people would kill for. The world needs more beings like Arnel and what better way to reward him than him living out his dream? Good things come to people who wait. It's amazing what could happen to you if you just show passion and hustle..

YoungJRNY wrote:

RocknRoll wrote:Well, Arnel has certainly has me hooked. The guy can flat out sing and then to come across so humble and real, I think he will be a keeper with the band. I just hope he doesn't get acclimated with the music biz and develop the "dreaded LSD"

Ditto. Whenever I see Arnel out there belting the life out of his lungs, or talking in that interview..you could just TELL he's enjoying life. Always smiling and giving off such a special vibe that some people would kill for. The world needs more beings like Arnel and what better way to reward him than him living out his dream? Good things come to people who wait. It's amazing what could happen to you if you just show passion and hustle..

And don't forget the killer smile. That certainly wins him a few fans as well

donnaplease wrote:let's not treat him like he's little orphan Annie, plucked out of a tragedy to instant stardom. He was a relatively successful performer in his home country and in HongKong and he has a family that he is supposedly very happy with. I don't think this is the rags to riches story that some are trying to make it out to be

I don't think it's about that, as if winning some lottery.
Thinking so, would miss the message in Arnel's story.
He persevered, in a very dangerous slog through life, little by little making his life better, to get to this.
No magic shortcuts.

We're shown where Arnel came from, just so we see how far he had to go without giving up.
I've only been to Tatalon a couple of times, though it's not THAT far from where I live.
Not all of it is as impoverished as some make it out to be, but parts of it are quite depressed, and dangerous.
Life is too cheaply taken in those parts, and "crushing poverty" doesn't even begin to describe
what the residents face, let alone those wandering, with neither shelter nor food.

RocknRoll wrote:Well, Arnel has certainly has me hooked. The guy can flat out sing and then to come across so humble and real,
I think he will be a keeper with the band. I just hope he doesn't get acclimated with the music biz and develop the "dreaded LSD"

LSD = lead singer disease, I'm guessing?
I'm rather hoping that it is the rest of Journey who'll get infected with Arnel's humility.
Maybe Neal, Jon, ...yes, even Steve, can realize just how good they've had it, and how petty
their grievances are, in comparison to what much of the world's population tries to endure.
For many of those suffering, some music to listen to is a tiny measure of solace
against day after day of despair.

Never too late to seek forgiveness, nor to forgive.

wech

wednesday's child wrote:

donnaplease wrote:let's not treat him like he's little orphan Annie, plucked out of a tragedy to instant stardom. He was a relatively successful performer in his home country and in HongKong and he has a family that he is supposedly very happy with. I don't think this is the rags to riches story that some are trying to make it out to be

I don't think it's about that, as if winning some lottery.
Thinking so, would miss the message in Arnel's story.
He persevered, in a very dangerous slog through life, little by little making his life better, to get to this.
No magic shortcuts.

We're shown where Arnel came from, just so we see how far he had to go without giving up.
I've only been to Tatalon a couple of times, though it's not THAT far from where I live.
Not all of it is as impoverished as some make it out to be, but parts of it are quite depressed, and dangerous.
Life is too cheaply taken in those parts, and "crushing poverty" doesn't even begin to describe
what the residents face, let alone those wandering, with neither shelter nor food.

RocknRoll wrote:Well, Arnel has certainly has me hooked. The guy can flat out sing and then to come across so humble and real,
I think he will be a keeper with the band. I just hope he doesn't get acclimated with the music biz and develop the "dreaded LSD"

LSD = lead singer disease, I'm guessing?
I'm rather hoping that it is the rest of Journey who'll get infected with Arnel's humility.
Maybe Neal, Jon, ...yes, even Steve, can realize just how good they've had it, and how petty
their grievances are, in comparison to what much of the world's population tries to endure.
For many of those suffering, some music to listen to is a tiny measure of solace
against day after day of despair.

Never too late to seek forgiveness, nor to forgive.

wech

Nice Post

Can't believe I am already witnessing the formative stages of a new cult of personality centered around Arnel.
How soon till we see fan generated "Arnel 4 President" bumper stickers, as was so stupidly done with SA?

After the exits of Augeri and Soto, you would like to think the fans' are beginning to catch wise.
Personally, my interest in in the group extends only to the music.