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OK, I've heard the album...start to finish...I didn't (and won't) buy it, I borrowed a buddy from work's copy...here are my thoughts:

1. Never Walk Away - Good song, good vibe...along the lines of "Higher Place" or "Be Good To Yourself"...nothing Journey hasn't done before.

2. Like A Sunshower - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz An attempt at "Lights 2"...played well, boring song.

3. Change For The Better - like a Bad English leftover (the way some of the Augeri material was)...not bad, but not great...good chorus.

4. Wildest Dream - more Bad English-style music...not bad, not great...good chorus.

5. Faith In The Heartland - I guess I'm jaded, but Augeri did this song so much better...boring vocal, great song. The intro now sounds exactly like "Where The Streets Have No Name"...

6. After All These Years - Crap...plain and simple. Like a bad Disney movie ballad...or like a Clay Aiken/American Idol throw away. Cain needs to keep this crap on his solo albums...

7. Where Did I Lose Your Love - starts off sounding like 80s Genesis...weird. More "not bad, not great" material. Good chorus...almost sounds like something The Storm would have done.

8. What I Needed - a much better ballad than the first one. More minor-key like "Living To Do"...this should have been the lead-off ballad.

9. What It Takes To Win - not good. Theme from Rocky 7...training montage "you can do it" crap. Give me Survivor's "Burning Heart" any day...

10. Turn Down The World Tonight - best ballad on the CD...great choris...they should have left off AATY...

11. The Journey (Revelation) - Neal's instrumental...sounds like it could have been included on Trial By Fire...reminds me of "Colors Of The Spirit" on the intro. The man can shred, but this was kinda pointless...especially at the end...

Overall:

Good melodies, good guitars, good hooks, but you can't shake the feeling that you've heard it all before and better somewhere else. A couple of crap songs. This sounds like all the good songs on Arrival and Generations simply re-written. Arnel's accent comes through too much for my liking, and his phrasing is a little choppy...but overall does a fine job. Neal sounds awesome, of course. It has it's moments, but this album will not get any repeated listens from me. If this were some new band on Frontiers or something, I don't think some Journey fans would be loving it...they'd say "it sounds like they're trying to be Journey"...that's what this sounds like to me...a band trying to be Journey.

I'm not going to bother with Disc 2.

Hey, we all care man. We all care...

brywool wrote:Hey, we all care man. We all care...

No you don't!! Nobody loves me!

Pelata wrote:

brywool wrote:Hey, we all care man. We all care...

No you don't!! Nobody loves me!

okay, yer right.

Pelata wrote:

brywool wrote:Hey, we all care man. We all care...

No you don't!! Nobody loves me!

I read it lol

Melissa wrote:

Pelata wrote:

brywool wrote:Hey, we all care man. We all care...

No you don't!! Nobody loves me!

I read it lol

260+ people read it... I guess everyone thinks I'm nuts...

Pelata wrote:

Melissa wrote:

Pelata wrote:

brywool wrote:Hey, we all care man. We all care...

No you don't!! Nobody loves me!

I read it lol

260+ people read it... I guess everyone thinks I'm nuts...

No you're not!

Melissa wrote:

Pelata wrote:

Melissa wrote:

Pelata wrote:

brywool wrote:Hey, we all care man. We all care...

No you don't!! Nobody loves me!

I read it lol

260+ people read it... I guess everyone thinks I'm nuts...

No you're not!

How do you know?

Pelata wrote:

Melissa wrote:

Pelata wrote:

brywool wrote:Hey, we all care man. We all care...

No you don't!! Nobody loves me!

I read it lol

260+ people read it... I guess everyone thinks I'm nuts...

You're comments are spot on. Rock on!

Scarab Pilot wrote:

Pelata wrote:

Melissa wrote:

Pelata wrote:

brywool wrote:Hey, we all care man. We all care...

No you don't!! Nobody loves me!

I read it lol

260+ people read it... I guess everyone thinks I'm nuts...

You're comments are spot on. Rock on!

Now...we are two.

I read your review....interesting!! However, I cannot comment as I have not heard the CD yet!!
I will BORROW before I buy!! Yes, the price is good for all you're getting....
but if you don't like what you're getting it's money in the toilet!!!
Do not care about the remakes, NOT IN THE LEAST, and the DVD would probably be a one time watch!!
I would REALLY have to LOVE the new tracks!!! Now, tell your friend to LEND me his and then I will
get back with you!!

Michigan Girl wrote:I read your review....interesting!! However, I cannot comment as I have not heard the CD yet!!
I will BORROW before I buy!! Yes, the price is good for all you're getting....
but if you don't like what you're getting it's money in the toilet!!!
Do not care about the remakes, NOT IN THE LEAST, and the DVD would probably be a one time watch!!
I would REALLY have to LOVE the new tracks!!! Now, tell your friend to LEND me his and then I will
get back with you!!

He wants it back by 4...I don't know if there's time...

Whomever borrows+burns and doesn't buy is a cheap fuck.....

Eric wrote:Whomever borrows+burns and doesn't buy is a cheap fuck.....

I'm not paying for anything I don't listen to first.

I listened to the new Journey and am now glad I did not waste $12 on it.

You shouldn't call names...it makes you look ignorant.

And I didn't burn it...he brought it to work and I listened to it in my office.

Eric wrote:Whomever borrows+burns and doesn't buy is a cheap fuck.....

Who said anything about burning????

Eric~ Don't tell ME what I can borrow, OK?

Pelata wrote:OK, I've heard the album...start to finish...I didn't (and won't) buy it, I borrowed a buddy from work's copy...here are my thoughts:

1. Never Walk Away - Good song, good vibe...along the lines of "Higher Place" or "Be Good To Yourself"...nothing Journey hasn't done before.

2. Like A Sunshower - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz An attempt at "Lights 2"...played well, boring song.

3. Change For The Better - like a Bad English leftover (the way some of the Augeri material was)...not bad, but not great...good chorus.

4. Wildest Dream - more Bad English-style music...not bad, not great...good chorus.

5. Faith In The Heartland - I guess I'm jaded, but Augeri did this song so much better...boring vocal, great song. The intro now sounds exactly like "Where The Streets Have No Name"...

6. After All These Years - Crap...plain and simple. Like a bad Disney movie ballad...or like a Clay Aiken/American Idol throw away. Cain needs to keep this crap on his solo albums...

7. Where Did I Lose Your Love - starts off sounding like 80s Genesis...weird. More "not bad, not great" material. Good chorus...almost sounds like something The Storm would have done.

8. What I Needed - a much better ballad than the first one. More minor-key like "Living To Do"...this should have been the lead-off ballad.

9. What It Takes To Win - not good. Theme from Rocky 7...training montage "you can do it" crap. Give me Survivor's "Burning Heart" any day...

10. Turn Down The World Tonight - best ballad on the CD...great choris...they should have left off AATY...

11. The Journey (Revelation) - Neal's instrumental...sounds like it could have been included on Trial By Fire...reminds me of "Colors Of The Spirit" on the intro. The man can shred, but this was kinda pointless...especially at the end...

Overall:

Good melodies, good guitars, good hooks, but you can't shake the feeling that you've heard it all before and better somewhere else. A couple of crap songs. This sounds like all the good songs on Arrival and Generations simply re-written. Arnel's accent comes through too much for my liking, and his phrasing is a little choppy...but overall does a fine job. Neal sounds awesome, of course. It has it's moments, but this album will not get any repeated listens from me. If this were some new band on Frontiers or something, I don't think some Journey fans would be loving it...they'd say "it sounds like they're trying to be Journey"...that's what this sounds like to me...a band trying to be Journey.

I'm not going to bother with Disc 2.

Hmm, kind of like what I thought after listening to the full cd preview for free on that website posted here. Sounded a lot like Arrival to me. Went back to it again, but songs were gone. Cheap enough, but I'm not going to buy this.

Hey Shawn, you couldn't put this in the Revalation Review thread because?????

BTW, I agree with very little of your review.

I read many slamming Turn Down the World.... I like this one a lot. I think I like it better than After All These Years. Both great ballads.

jrnyman28 wrote:Hey Shawn, you couldn't put this in the Revalation Review thread because?????

BTW, I agree with very little of your review.

I thought about the review thread when it was too late...my bad.

"Good melodies, good guitars, good hooks, but you can't shake the feeling that you've heard it all before and better somewhere else. A couple of crap songs. This sounds like all the good songs on Arrival and Generations simply re-written. Arnel's accent comes through too much for my liking, and his phrasing is a little choppy...but overall does a fine job. Neal sounds awesome, of course. It has it's moments, but this album will not get any repeated listens from me. If this were some new band on Frontiers or something, I don't think some Journey fans would be loving it...they'd say "it sounds like they're trying to be Journey"...that's what this sounds like to me...a band trying to be Journey."

Yeah they should have done something original like your album.

brywool wrote:I read many slamming Turn Down the World.... I like this one a lot. I think I like it better than After All These Years. Both great ballads.

So do I! And don't skin me alive, but it reminds me of Mr. Big's "Promise Her The Moon" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDCAbLKpRIE Somebody brought that to my attention, and I'll be darned if it doesn't have a PHTM feel to it.

I don't have the cd/dvd yet, so only going on the snippets Walmart posted, but Turn Down The World and After All These Years are faves so far.

Deb wrote:

brywool wrote:I read many slamming Turn Down the World.... I like this one a lot. I think I like it better than After All These Years. Both great ballads.

So do I! And don't skin me alive, but it reminds me of Mr. Big's "Promise Her The Moon" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDCAbLKpRIE Somebody brought that to my attention, and I'll be darned if it doesn't have a PHTM feel to it.

I don't have the cd/dvd yet, so only going on the snippets Walmart posted, but Turn Down The World and After All These Years are faves so far.

Oh my God, yer killing me Deb!
FYI- I've only heard ONE mb song in my life and that was their hit tune. Didn't do much for me.
I just really like this new tune.

Duncan wrote:"Good melodies, good guitars, good hooks, but you can't shake the feeling that you've heard it all before and better somewhere else. A couple of crap songs. This sounds like all the good songs on Arrival and Generations simply re-written. Arnel's accent comes through too much for my liking, and his phrasing is a little choppy...but overall does a fine job. Neal sounds awesome, of course. It has it's moments, but this album will not get any repeated listens from me. If this were some new band on Frontiers or something, I don't think some Journey fans would be loving it...they'd say "it sounds like they're trying to be Journey"...that's what this sounds like to me...a band trying to be Journey."

Yeah they should have done something original like your album.

Haha! I knew that was coming.

The difference is that Line Of Fire was a vanity project, created to make exactly the music that was made. There was no attempt to be original and we never alluded that we were. We know what we are. We make throwback music for fans of it.

Journey, if you believe Neal, wants to "move forward"...this CD does anything but...Generations was more forward thinking than this, even though it didn't always work...they at least tried.

Michigan Girl wrote:

Eric wrote:Whomever borrows+burns and doesn't buy is a cheap fuck.....

Who said anything about burning????

Eric~ Don't tell ME what I can borrow, OK?

You can do what you want of course.....but I'll call it what I want

brywool wrote:

Deb wrote:

brywool wrote:I read many slamming Turn Down the World.... I like this one a lot. I think I like it better than After All These Years. Both great ballads.

So do I! And don't skin me alive, but it reminds me of Mr. Big's "Promise Her The Moon" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDCAbLKpRIE Somebody brought that to my attention, and I'll be darned if it doesn't have a PHTM feel to it.

I don't have the cd/dvd yet, so only going on the snippets Walmart posted, but Turn Down The World and After All These Years are faves so far.

Oh my God, yer killing me Deb!
FYI- I've only heard ONE mb song in my life and that was their hit tune. Didn't do much for me.
I just really like this new tune.

No wonder, if that is the only song you've heard? They've got some killer rockers in their catalogue. Just sayin'..........

Pelata wrote:

Eric wrote:Whomever borrows+burns and doesn't buy is a cheap fuck.....

I'm not paying for anything I don't listen to first.

I listened to the new Journey and am now glad I did not waste $12 on it.

You shouldn't call names...it makes you look ignorant.

You're spending an awful lot of disposable time talking about something you say you don't have disposable income for......

Pelata wrote:

Duncan wrote:"Good melodies, good guitars, good hooks, but you can't shake the feeling that you've heard it all before and better somewhere else. A couple of crap songs. This sounds like all the good songs on Arrival and Generations simply re-written. Arnel's accent comes through too much for my liking, and his phrasing is a little choppy...but overall does a fine job. Neal sounds awesome, of course. It has it's moments, but this album will not get any repeated listens from me. If this were some new band on Frontiers or something, I don't think some Journey fans would be loving it...they'd say "it sounds like they're trying to be Journey"...that's what this sounds like to me...a band trying to be Journey."

Yeah they should have done something original like your album.

Haha! I knew that was coming.

The difference is that Line Of Fire was a vanity project, created to make exactly the music that was made. There was no attempt to be original and we never alluded that we were. We know what we are. We make throwback music for fans of it.

Journey, if you believe Neal, wants to "move forward"...this CD does anything but...Generations was more forward thinking than this, even though it didn't always work...they at least tried.

LINE OF FIRE- Shit, that's you! I forgot that and meant to buy that album! Gotta do that.

Eric wrote:

Pelata wrote:

Eric wrote:Whomever borrows+burns and doesn't buy is a cheap fuck.....

I'm not paying for anything I don't listen to first.

I listened to the new Journey and am now glad I did not waste $12 on it.

You shouldn't call names...it makes you look ignorant.

You're spending an awful lot of disposable time talking about something you say you don't have disposable income for......

Yes...yes I am.