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Sounds to me like Perry keeps his word!!!

Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

I hope they don't call the guy back. What a pain in the ass the guy is to deal with. AMAZING vocalist. AMAZING writer, but what a pain in the ass.

Greg wrote:Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

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Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Greg wrote:Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

.....and I hope when "Journey" is all said and done, that he does! I would love to see those 2 park it in some room somewhere and just see what chemistry/creativity flows out of them still.

brywool wrote:I hope they don't call the guy back. What a pain in the ass the guy is to deal with. AMAZING vocalist. AMAZING writer, but what a pain in the ass.

I betcha Schon was just as much of a pain in Perry's ass, with the booze factor fanning the flames.

I actually watched the BTM last night (Red13JoePa inspired me with his two quotes from the episode). After watching it again, I came to the conclusion there are no bad guys in the breakup. It's all ego and stubbornness. Just a bunch of headstrong guys (specifically Herbie and Perry). Perry wound up winning that battle in '95. However, when the guys basically told him to shit or get off the pot, his stubbornness probably got the best of the situation. I do not blame Schon, Cain, Valory, and company for continuing on one bit. They were probably pissed, thinking in hindsight, after all this we should've just continued in the 80s.

I think that stubbornness still prevails after all this time too. It may be why Perry doesn't pick up the phone or talks to Neal after all this time. He may feel a little betrayal in his mind, but also may know it may be tempting to go back. However, his ego won't let him go back, so he eliminates all contact and temptation.

Cain knows it, and basically gave Perry a compliment in saying he sticks to his word.

Tito wrote:I actually watched the BTM last night (Red13JoePa inspired me with his two quotes from the episode). After watching it again, I came to the conclusion there are no bad guys in the breakup. It's all ego and stubbornness. Just a bunch of headstrong guys (specifically Herbie and Perry). Perry wound up winning that battle in '95. However, when the guys basically told him to shit or get off the pot, his stubbornness probably got the best of the situation. I do not blame Schon, Cain, Valory, and company for continuing on one bit. They were probably pissed, thinking in hindsight, after all this we should've just continued in the 80s.

I think that stubbornness still prevails after all this time too. It may be why Perry doesn't pick up the phone or talks to Neal after all this time. He may feel a little betrayal in his mind, but also may know it may be tempting to go back. However, his ego won't let him go back, so he eliminates all contact and temptation.

Cain knows it, and basically gave Perry a compliment in saying he sticks to his word.

Wow! I actually agree with most of your post. I guess there is a first time for everything.

EightyRock wrote:

brywool wrote:I hope they don't call the guy back. What a pain in the ass the guy is to deal with. AMAZING vocalist. AMAZING writer, but what a pain in the ass.

Maybe so. It was my understanding that the alcoholic thing started post-Perry.

Tito wrote:I actually watched the BTM last night (Red13JoePa inspired me with his two quotes from the episode). After watching it again, I came to the conclusion there are no bad guys in the breakup. It's all ego and stubbornness. Just a bunch of headstrong guys (specifically Herbie and Perry). Perry wound up winning that battle in '95. However, when the guys basically told him to shit or get off the pot, his stubbornness probably got the best of the situation. I do not blame Schon, Cain, Valory, and company for continuing on one bit. They were probably pissed, thinking in hindsight, after all this we should've just continued in the 80s.

I think that stubbornness still prevails after all this time too. It may be why Perry doesn't pick up the phone or talks to Neal after all this time. He may feel a little betrayal in his mind, but also may know it may be tempting to go back. However, his ego won't let him go back, so he eliminates all contact and temptation.

Cain knows it, and basically gave Perry a compliment in saying he sticks to his word.

IMO, Cain was "baiting" SP by say how rigorous it is out on the road...implying SP couldn't handle it anymore.

Tomulator wrote:

Tito wrote:I actually watched the BTM last night (Red13JoePa inspired me with his two quotes from the episode). After watching it again, I came to the conclusion there are no bad guys in the breakup. It's all ego and stubbornness. Just a bunch of headstrong guys (specifically Herbie and Perry). Perry wound up winning that battle in '95. However, when the guys basically told him to shit or get off the pot, his stubbornness probably got the best of the situation. I do not blame Schon, Cain, Valory, and company for continuing on one bit. They were probably pissed, thinking in hindsight, after all this we should've just continued in the 80s.

I think that stubbornness still prevails after all this time too. It may be why Perry doesn't pick up the phone or talks to Neal after all this time. He may feel a little betrayal in his mind, but also may know it may be tempting to go back. However, his ego won't let him go back, so he eliminates all contact and temptation.

Cain knows it, and basically gave Perry a compliment in saying he sticks to his word.

IMO, Cain was "baiting" SP by say how rigorous it is out on the road...implying SP couldn't handle it anymore.

He can't. God, here we go...

Tito wrote:I actually watched the BTM last night (Red13JoePa inspired me with his two quotes from the episode). After watching it again, I came to the conclusion there are no bad guys in the breakup. It's all ego and stubbornness. Just a bunch of headstrong guys (specifically Herbie and Perry). Perry wound up winning that battle in '95. However, when the guys basically told him to shit or get off the pot, his stubbornness probably got the best of the situation. I do not blame Schon, Cain, Valory, and company for continuing on one bit. They were probably pissed, thinking in hindsight, after all this we should've just continued in the 80s.

I think that stubbornness still prevails after all this time too. It may be why Perry doesn't pick up the phone or talks to Neal after all this time. He may feel a little betrayal in his mind, but also may know it may be tempting to go back. However, his ego won't let him go back, so he eliminates all contact and temptation.

Cain knows it, and basically gave Perry a compliment in saying he sticks to his word.

Hmmmmm, we may never know, but what a DIPLOMATIC viewpoint!!!

Deb wrote:Wow! I actually agree with most of your post. I guess there is a first time for everything.

Actually, if you and others would put your unwarranted hatred of Schon and Cain aside, you would agree with most of my posts.

EightyRock wrote:

Greg wrote:Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

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Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Why should it? I think the "J-Boys" all acknowledge and respect the legend that Steve Perry is. They are just trying to move on with their music, and I think for the first time in a very long time, they are content with where they are at. Steve Perry on the other hand, does not seem content to me. He sounds like a tortured soul.

Tito wrote:

Deb wrote:Wow! I actually agree with most of your post. I guess there is a first time for everything.

Actually, if you and others would put your unwarranted hatred of Schon and Cain aside, you would agree with most of my posts.

NAW!!

Tomulator wrote:IMO, Cain was "baiting" SP by say how rigorous it is out on the road...implying SP couldn't handle it anymore.

I don't think that's the case. However, it would probably be difficult for any singer at his age to perform the current schedule. If he ever would tour, the smart thing to do, would be do a show, take a day off, show, day off,etc. Maybe even a two day break on occasion.

Barb wrote:

EightyRock wrote:

Greg wrote:Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

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Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Why should it? I think the "J-Boys" all acknowledge and respect the legend that Steve Perry is. They are just trying to move on with their music, and I think for the first time in a very long time, they are content with where they are at. Steve Perry on the other hand, does not seem content to me. He sounds like a tortured soul.

Why? Really, I'm curious!!

Tomulator wrote:

Tito wrote:I actually watched the BTM last night (Red13JoePa inspired me with his two quotes from the episode). After watching it again, I came to the conclusion there are no bad guys in the breakup. It's all ego and stubbornness. Just a bunch of headstrong guys (specifically Herbie and Perry). Perry wound up winning that battle in '95. However, when the guys basically told him to shit or get off the pot, his stubbornness probably got the best of the situation. I do not blame Schon, Cain, Valory, and company for continuing on one bit. They were probably pissed, thinking in hindsight, after all this we should've just continued in the 80s.

I think that stubbornness still prevails after all this time too. It may be why Perry doesn't pick up the phone or talks to Neal after all this time. He may feel a little betrayal in his mind, but also may know it may be tempting to go back. However, his ego won't let him go back, so he eliminates all contact and temptation.

Cain knows it, and basically gave Perry a compliment in saying he sticks to his word.

IMO, Cain was "baiting" SP by say how rigorous it is out on the road...implying SP couldn't handle it anymore.

I took it as, "the guy has more money than God and he doesn't need to work this hard, his legacy is intact."

NEWSFLASH: Perry can't sing anymore. Definitely not up to Journey standards.

Michigan Girl wrote:

Barb wrote:

EightyRock wrote:

Greg wrote:Cain said he'd never make that call, but Schon might...

\
Nah....Schon thinks he's found his next Perry.
Check out Arnel's DSB on the DVD, then pop in the Escape DVD. I laughed my ass off when I watched one after the other. I didn't really want to compare, but I couldn't help myself!
Perry's legacy is in CONCRETE. That has to get under Cain's skin big time.

Why should it? I think the "J-Boys" all acknowledge and respect the legend that Steve Perry is. They are just trying to move on with their music, and I think for the first time in a very long time, they are content with where they are at. Steve Perry on the other hand, does not seem content to me. He sounds like a tortured soul.

Why? Really, I'm curious!!

Did you read the interview he did with the GQ guy? It sounds like everything related to Journey or singing causes him a great deal of emotional pain. he can't even stand to hear his own singing voice sometimes because "it sounds like Steve Perry".

Tomulator wrote:IMO, Cain

How do you know, did you ask him?

It's not like any of us know them personally, any more than they know us personally.

Yet here we are, picking sides, acting like we were there, acting like we know these guys like they're our long lost friends, knowing exactly what they meant and what they implied every time they open their mouth.

It's just plain silly. We're fans, not friends.

OH!! (to Barb) Thanks!!

NealIsGod wrote:NEWSFLASH: Perry can't sing anymore. Definitely not up to Journey standards.

That is another theory. One I hope is not true. If it's not true, then it's disappointing someone with so much talent not to be using it.

NealIsGod wrote:NEWSFLASH: Perry can't sing anymore. Definitely not up to Journey standards.

At least you added the second part in.

I'm still convinced that if you and he had a sing-off today, he'd kick your ass across the floor.

I know he'd kick mine.

DracIsBack wrote:

NealIsGod wrote:NEWSFLASH: Perry can't sing anymore. Definitely not up to Journey standards.

At least you added the second part in.

I'm still convinced that if you and he had a sing-off today, he'd kick your ass across the floor.

I know he'd kick mine.

I don't know. If I had a good day, I think I could make it interesting.

Tito wrote:

Deb wrote:Wow! I actually agree with most of your post. I guess there is a first time for everything.

Actually, if you and others would put your unwarranted hatred of Schon and Cain aside, you would agree with most of my posts.

Nah, I haven't got enough invested in Journey any more to warrant 'hatred'. I'm not one for wasting time and keystrokes on something I don't like.

Besides, I'm just chalking my agreement with ya, up to you......once in a blue moon having a reality brain fart.

EightyRock wrote:

brywool wrote:I hope they don't call the guy back. What a pain in the ass the guy is to deal with. AMAZING vocalist. AMAZING writer, but what a pain in the ass.

I betcha Schon was just as much of a pain in Perry's ass, with the booze factor fanning the flames.

You have got to be kidding....Schon's drinking problem that he has aluded over the last couple years, is a bit overplayed. Does he look like a boozer? The guy looks he has taken care of himself throughout the years, and his problems are nothing like an Eddie Van Halen....

If anything Perry and Schon are equally overly egotistical...And it's easy to see why...they have uncommon, incredible musical gifts, respectively. Sometimes that goes to your head.

brandonpfn wrote:

EightyRock wrote:I betcha Schon was just as much of a pain in Perry's ass, with the booze factor fanning the flames.

You have got to be kidding....Schon's drinking problem that he has aluded over the last couple years, is a bit overplayed.

So very typical that it's brought up though, brandonpfn.
See, being a perry fan, as they're only so very happy to try and jam down everyone's throat at every turn, is all about "class" and being above this sort of thing

Tito wrote:

DracIsBack wrote:

NealIsGod wrote:NEWSFLASH: Perry can't sing anymore. Definitely not up to Journey standards.

At least you added the second part in.

I'm still convinced that if you and he had a sing-off today, he'd kick your ass across the floor.

I know he'd kick mine.

I don't know. If I had a good day, I think I could make it interesting.

and somewhere sits NS, cruising youtube once again and he happens onto:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51vJElLyOL4&feature=related

He just shakes his head.