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Not one to post often and never one to really stick my beak in, I just have a couple of thoughts on a few things.

- Arnel - WOW!!! He's got a HUGE voice. He did a great job putting his own spin on the original songs. He definitely took some of his vocal cues from Perry but, he didn't try to sound like him or oversing. We've all heard remakes, tributes, live recordings, etc. of these songs by other singers and they never really captured the feeling of the song or sounded right. It's hard when you compare all of these great songs to the original vocals but, these were done very well. Nice job. One thing...I only hope, for the sake of his career and personal well-being, that he doesn't blow his voice up singing those big songs in the original keys. I hope he holds something back when he's singing live. It would be a shame to burn out right away.

- Deen - This dude ROCKS!! I'm not talking about his playing. He's a great, great drummer but, Steve Smith is one of the top 10 in the entire world. Even Deen would tell you that Smitty outclasses him. No, I'm talking about his personal "Thank You" to Steve Augeri in his liner notes. That was beyond cool. He didn't have to but, he showed an amazing amount of class by doing that. He knows what went down, "tapegate", how Steve was treated by the other guys and management. They even re-recorded one of his songs with Arnel when the original was perfectly fine, albeit on a very bad album. He knows how Steve was abused and not given anywhere near enough credit for his contributions to the band...certainly no public praise whatsoever. Steve Augeri was given a raw deal in the end and was treated badly. Hit-and-run left on the side of the road to bleed to death...never to be spoken of again. Deen stood up and publicly recognized him and even called him "friend" and "brother".

How did a guy with so much class get hooked up with guys like Jon and Neal?

LazzMan wrote:Not one to post often and never one to really stick my beak in, I just have a couple of thoughts on a few things.

- Arnel - WOW!!! He's got a HUGE voice. He did a great job putting his own spin on the original songs. He definitely took some of his vocal cues from Perry but, he didn't try to sound like him or oversing. We've all heard remakes, tributes, live recordings, etc. of these songs by other singers and they never really captured the feeling of the song or sounded right. It's hard when you compare all of these great songs to the original vocals but, these were done very well. Nice job. One thing...I only hope, for the sake of his career and personal well-being, that he doesn't blow his voice up singing those big songs in the original keys. I hope he holds something back when he's singing live. It would be a shame to burn out right away.

- Deen - This dude ROCKS!! I'm not talking about his playing. He's a great, great drummer but, Steve Smith is one of the top 10 in the entire world. Even Deen would tell you that Smitty outclasses him. No, I'm talking about his personal "Thank You" to Steve Augeri in his liner notes. That was beyond cool. He didn't have to but, he showed an amazing amount of class by doing that. He knows what went down, "tapegate", how Steve was treated by the other guys and management. They even re-recorded one of his songs with Arnel when the original was perfectly fine, albeit on a very bad album. He knows how Steve was abused and not given anywhere near enough credit for his contributions to the band...certainly no public praise whatsoever. Steve Augeri was given a raw deal in the end and was treated badly. Hit-and-run left on the side of the road to bleed to death...never to be spoken of again. Deen stood up and publicly recognized him and even called him "friend" and "brother".

How did a guy with so much class get hooked up with guys like Jon and Neal?

I love Augeri.. but I dont feel sorry for him.

He has some great years in the band and sang some great news songs.

youkeepmewaiting wrote:

LazzMan wrote:Not one to post often and never one to really stick my beak in, I just have a couple of thoughts on a few things.

- Arnel - WOW!!! He's got a HUGE voice. He did a great job putting his own spin on the original songs. He definitely took some of his vocal cues from Perry but, he didn't try to sound like him or oversing. We've all heard remakes, tributes, live recordings, etc. of these songs by other singers and they never really captured the feeling of the song or sounded right. It's hard when you compare all of these great songs to the original vocals but, these were done very well. Nice job. One thing...I only hope, for the sake of his career and personal well-being, that he doesn't blow his voice up singing those big songs in the original keys. I hope he holds something back when he's singing live. It would be a shame to burn out right away.

- Deen - This dude ROCKS!! I'm not talking about his playing. He's a great, great drummer but, Steve Smith is one of the top 10 in the entire world. Even Deen would tell you that Smitty outclasses him. No, I'm talking about his personal "Thank You" to Steve Augeri in his liner notes. That was beyond cool. He didn't have to but, he showed an amazing amount of class by doing that. He knows what went down, "tapegate", how Steve was treated by the other guys and management. They even re-recorded one of his songs with Arnel when the original was perfectly fine, albeit on a very bad album. He knows how Steve was abused and not given anywhere near enough credit for his contributions to the band...certainly no public praise whatsoever. Steve Augeri was given a raw deal in the end and was treated badly. Hit-and-run left on the side of the road to bleed to death...never to be spoken of again. Deen stood up and publicly recognized him and even called him "friend" and "brother".

How did a guy with so much class get hooked up with guys like Jon and Neal?

I love Augeri.. but I dont feel sorry for him.

He has some great years in the band and sang some great news songs.

I don't really feel sorry for him either. I just think what Deen did was cool. He didn't have to do that but, there's got to be a strong bond there as they joined the band at the same time. IMO.

LazzMan wrote:

youkeepmewaiting wrote:

LazzMan wrote:Not one to post often and never one to really stick my beak in, I just have a couple of thoughts on a few things.

- Arnel - WOW!!! He's got a HUGE voice. He did a great job putting his own spin on the original songs. He definitely took some of his vocal cues from Perry but, he didn't try to sound like him or oversing. We've all heard remakes, tributes, live recordings, etc. of these songs by other singers and they never really captured the feeling of the song or sounded right. It's hard when you compare all of these great songs to the original vocals but, these were done very well. Nice job. One thing...I only hope, for the sake of his career and personal well-being, that he doesn't blow his voice up singing those big songs in the original keys. I hope he holds something back when he's singing live. It would be a shame to burn out right away.

- Deen - This dude ROCKS!! I'm not talking about his playing. He's a great, great drummer but, Steve Smith is one of the top 10 in the entire world. Even Deen would tell you that Smitty outclasses him. No, I'm talking about his personal "Thank You" to Steve Augeri in his liner notes. That was beyond cool. He didn't have to but, he showed an amazing amount of class by doing that. He knows what went down, "tapegate", how Steve was treated by the other guys and management. They even re-recorded one of his songs with Arnel when the original was perfectly fine, albeit on a very bad album. He knows how Steve was abused and not given anywhere near enough credit for his contributions to the band...certainly no public praise whatsoever. Steve Augeri was given a raw deal in the end and was treated badly. Hit-and-run left on the side of the road to bleed to death...never to be spoken of again. Deen stood up and publicly recognized him and even called him "friend" and "brother".

How did a guy with so much class get hooked up with guys like Jon and Neal?

I love Augeri.. but I dont feel sorry for him.

He has some great years in the band and sang some great news songs.

I don't really feel sorry for him either. I just think what Deen did was cool. He didn't have to do that but, there's got to be a strong bond there as they joined the band at the same time. IMO.

Most definitly , kudos to him.

In a way it gets sad that a shout out to a past member gets so much attention, it should just be a casual thing from everyone really.

BTW, speaking of Deen. I just watched the DVD. Mother Father....Holy Cow!! How does he still have any testicles left? Great stuff.

Deen is a very emotive guy. In an interview with Andrew on Generations, here is what he said about Steve Augeri.

He and I - I'm his biggest fan and he is my biggest fan and we really feed off each other.
And that's what was neat – there was no ego. You would think with a singer there would be 'screw this I don't want to have him do this, this is my job' – but he did it – and this is a bad pun bro, but he did it with open arms bro.
He said 'do what you need to do' and that shows what kind of human being he is and what kind of man we are dealing with here – a true class act.

LazzMan wrote:Not one to post often and never one to really stick my beak in, I just have a couple of thoughts on a few things.

- Arnel - WOW!!! He's got a HUGE voice. He did a great job putting his own spin on the original songs. He definitely took some of his vocal cues from Perry but, he didn't try to sound like him or oversing. We've all heard remakes, tributes, live recordings, etc. of these songs by other singers and they never really captured the feeling of the song or sounded right. It's hard when you compare all of these great songs to the original vocals but, these were done very well. Nice job. One thing...I only hope, for the sake of his career and personal well-being, that he doesn't blow his voice up singing those big songs in the original keys. I hope he holds something back when he's singing live. It would be a shame to burn out right away.

- Deen - This dude ROCKS!! I'm not talking about his playing. He's a great, great drummer but, Steve Smith is one of the top 10 in the entire world. Even Deen would tell you that Smitty outclasses him. No, I'm talking about his personal "Thank You" to Steve Augeri in his liner notes. That was beyond cool. He didn't have to but, he showed an amazing amount of class by doing that. He knows what went down, "tapegate", how Steve was treated by the other guys and management. They even re-recorded one of his songs with Arnel when the original was perfectly fine, albeit on a very bad album. He knows how Steve was abused and not given anywhere near enough credit for his contributions to the band...certainly no public praise whatsoever. Steve Augeri was given a raw deal in the end and was treated badly. Hit-and-run left on the side of the road to bleed to death...never to be spoken of again. Deen stood up and publicly recognized him and even called him "friend" and "brother".

How did a guy with so much class get hooked up with guys like Jon and Neal?

Journey lost a whole year of touring and $$ when they fucked Steve A ,then JSS ,i didnt feel sorry for them when they didnt have a lead singer when the Sopranos bullshit came out.Asses

Centaure wrote:Deen is a very emotive guy. In an interview with Andrew on Generations, here is what he said about Steve Augeri.

He and I - I'm his biggest fan and he is my biggest fan and we really feed off each other.
And that's what was neat – there was no ego. You would think with a singer there would be 'screw this I don't want to have him do this, this is my job' – but he did it – and this is a bad pun bro, but he did it with open arms bro.
He said 'do what you need to do' and that shows what kind of human being he is and what kind of man we are dealing with here – a true class act.

That's emotional. Emotive basically means over the top and theatrical.

stevew2 wrote:

LazzMan wrote:Not one to post often and never one to really stick my beak in, I just have a couple of thoughts on a few things.

- Arnel - WOW!!! He's got a HUGE voice. He did a great job putting his own spin on the original songs. He definitely took some of his vocal cues from Perry but, he didn't try to sound like him or oversing. We've all heard remakes, tributes, live recordings, etc. of these songs by other singers and they never really captured the feeling of the song or sounded right. It's hard when you compare all of these great songs to the original vocals but, these were done very well. Nice job. One thing...I only hope, for the sake of his career and personal well-being, that he doesn't blow his voice up singing those big songs in the original keys. I hope he holds something back when he's singing live. It would be a shame to burn out right away.

- Deen - This dude ROCKS!! I'm not talking about his playing. He's a great, great drummer but, Steve Smith is one of the top 10 in the entire world. Even Deen would tell you that Smitty outclasses him. No, I'm talking about his personal "Thank You" to Steve Augeri in his liner notes. That was beyond cool. He didn't have to but, he showed an amazing amount of class by doing that. He knows what went down, "tapegate", how Steve was treated by the other guys and management. They even re-recorded one of his songs with Arnel when the original was perfectly fine, albeit on a very bad album. He knows how Steve was abused and not given anywhere near enough credit for his contributions to the band...certainly no public praise whatsoever. Steve Augeri was given a raw deal in the end and was treated badly. Hit-and-run left on the side of the road to bleed to death...never to be spoken of again. Deen stood up and publicly recognized him and even called him "friend" and "brother".

How did a guy with so much class get hooked up with guys like Jon and Neal?

Journey lost a whole year of touring and $$ when they fucked Steve A ,then JSS ,i didnt feel sorry for them when they didnt have a lead singer when the Sopranos bullshit came out.Asses

But they did have a lead singer. JSS was still in the band at the time, then he was let go.

finalfight wrote:

stevew2 wrote:

LazzMan wrote:Not one to post often and never one to really stick my beak in, I just have a couple of thoughts on a few things.

- Arnel - WOW!!! He's got a HUGE voice. He did a great job putting his own spin on the original songs. He definitely took some of his vocal cues from Perry but, he didn't try to sound like him or oversing. We've all heard remakes, tributes, live recordings, etc. of these songs by other singers and they never really captured the feeling of the song or sounded right. It's hard when you compare all of these great songs to the original vocals but, these were done very well. Nice job. One thing...I only hope, for the sake of his career and personal well-being, that he doesn't blow his voice up singing those big songs in the original keys. I hope he holds something back when he's singing live. It would be a shame to burn out right away.

- Deen - This dude ROCKS!! I'm not talking about his playing. He's a great, great drummer but, Steve Smith is one of the top 10 in the entire world. Even Deen would tell you that Smitty outclasses him. No, I'm talking about his personal "Thank You" to Steve Augeri in his liner notes. That was beyond cool. He didn't have to but, he showed an amazing amount of class by doing that. He knows what went down, "tapegate", how Steve was treated by the other guys and management. They even re-recorded one of his songs with Arnel when the original was perfectly fine, albeit on a very bad album. He knows how Steve was abused and not given anywhere near enough credit for his contributions to the band...certainly no public praise whatsoever. Steve Augeri was given a raw deal in the end and was treated badly. Hit-and-run left on the side of the road to bleed to death...never to be spoken of again. Deen stood up and publicly recognized him and even called him "friend" and "brother".

How did a guy with so much class get hooked up with guys like Jon and Neal?

Journey lost a whole year of touring and $$ when they fucked Steve A ,then JSS ,i didnt feel sorry for them when they didnt have a lead singer when the Sopranos bullshit came out.Asses

But they did have a lead singer. JSS was still in the band at the time, then he was let go.

No, didnt then officially get rid of JSS a few days before Sopranos?

finalfight wrote:

Centaure wrote:Deen is a very emotive guy. In an interview with Andrew on Generations, here is what he said about Steve Augeri.

He and I - I'm his biggest fan and he is my biggest fan and we really feed off each other.
And that's what was neat – there was no ego. You would think with a singer there would be 'screw this I don't want to have him do this, this is my job' – but he did it – and this is a bad pun bro, but he did it with open arms bro.
He said 'do what you need to do' and that shows what kind of human being he is and what kind of man we are dealing with here – a true class act.

That's emotional. Emotive basically means over the top and theatrical.

Okay thanks for correcting my english !

Here another proof that Deen is an emotional guy

Deen said:

Let me tell you something…when we were doing the recording – when we were doing the song – not the vocal – just the basic tracking…when we got to the middle, I start tearing up. I'm like the biggest puss on the planet – I am what I am you know, I'm just real sensitive.
The song was real special to me and it really hit home - it showed me where I was.
And here I am doing this record clean and sober and I'm seeing where I am now.
It was very emotional for me.
We were singing the song…I was in there singing and we got to the lead solo and I started tearing up again.
And that's when Steven came up and said 'man, that's yours. It's very special to you; it's very dear to you, that's yours. You sing it'.
I'll never forget that man, that song is very emotional for me and I hear it now and think Wow, God has given me a big chance here…I'm alive.

http://www.melodicrock.com/interviews/j ... onovo.html

I feel sorry for Augeri because:

* he was shanghaied by his bandmates
* he was 'exposed' by a bunch of motherfuckers that wouldn't have had the technical ability or knowledge to do such a thing in the first place. Some reside or resided here.
* he was denegrated by his band mates long after his departure of the band with the release of faith in the heartland, the protools comments (trust me, Arnel comped his vocals too!) and various other off handed comments directed at steve.


I do not feel sorry for Augeri because:

* He's a far better person than the pieces of shit he used to perform with
* He actually saved his money, unlike the twats he used to play with
* He's actually got a family and a wife....unlike some of the twats he used to play with.

BTW, Deen's a jive motherfucker with bullshit written all over his face. Fuck him, that little piece of substance abusing shit. Steve A is his bro right? Thats what he keeps saying eh? I'd bet my left nut that the fucking piece of shit never once lifted a finger to call Steve.....fucker...

you people really need to get your heads out of the sand with respect to these low life pieces of shit that reside in Journey right now....if the wool can be pulled over your eyes this easily, I have to wonder how much you've been fooled IRL.

Have you any connection with the band or that is just what you think of them ?

strangegrey wrote:BTW, Deen's a jive motherfucker with bullshit written all over his face. Fuck him, that little piece of substance abusing shit. Steve A is his bro right? Thats what he keeps saying eh? I'd bet my left nut that the fucking piece of shit never once lifted a finger to call Steve.....fucker...

you people really need to get your heads out of the sand with respect to these low life pieces of shit that reside in Journey right now....if the wool can be pulled over your eyes this easily, I have to wonder how much you've been fooled IRL.

While not as upset as you, I do think Deen is sort of a phony... as much as the rest of the band at least.

amaron wrote:

strangegrey wrote:BTW, Deen's a jive motherfucker with bullshit written all over his face. Fuck him, that little piece of substance abusing shit. Steve A is his bro right? Thats what he keeps saying eh? I'd bet my left nut that the fucking piece of shit never once lifted a finger to call Steve.....fucker...

you people really need to get your heads out of the sand with respect to these low life pieces of shit that reside in Journey right now....if the wool can be pulled over your eyes this easily, I have to wonder how much you've been fooled IRL.

While not as upset as you, I do think Deen is sort of a phony... as much as the rest of the band at least.

I would have to agree with you on this.

Well, that is showbuisness... it is all glamore, superficial.

Please dont diminish Deen's dispicable statements by claiming it's just showbusiness. The guy's a dirtbag...he's claiming brotherhood while stabbing him in the back. fucking downright disgraceful...

Have you any connection with the band or that is just what you think of them ?

Would it matter to you if I did or not? I'll tell you what. ignore what I say, if it makes you feel better about yourself... Sometimes it's easier to breathe with sand around your head....

Well, one thing.
When Castronovo starts calling you 'bro' your head better be on a swivel like the hitman in Lethal Weapon 2 who was "Just checking to see if I was standing on plastic."

Red13JoePa wrote:Well, one thing.
When Castronovo starts calling you 'bro' your head better be on a swivel like the hitman in Lethal Weapon 2 who was "Just checking to see if I was standing on plastic."

LOL. What made that scene was his south african accent. "jooost chicking to see if I waz stending un pastique"

Exactly, then he grins up at the head baddie.
"Dun 'ave mooch luke weeth weemin, do you RRRiggs?" that dude's one of the best villains ever

strangegrey wrote:I feel sorry for Augeri because:

* he was shanghaied by his bandmates
* he was 'exposed' by a bunch of motherfuckers that wouldn't have had the technical ability or knowledge to do such a thing in the first place. Some reside or resided here.
* he was denegrated by his band mates long after his departure of the band with the release of faith in the heartland, the protools comments (trust me, Arnel comped his vocals too!) and various other off handed comments directed at steve.


I do not feel sorry for Augeri because:

* He's a far better person than the pieces of shit he used to perform with
* He actually saved his money, unlike the twats he used to play with
* He's actually got a family and a wife....unlike some of the twats he used to play with.

I agree with you 1000%! The man was a team player and followed the lead that his bandmates presented to him. His downfall was that he was simply a hired hand who didn't have any control in the band whatsoever. I remember people repeating the question..."Would you have Augeri singing in Journey or no Journey whatsoever?" I don't hear that appreciation for him as much anymore. While I ultimately would rather have (a healthy) Steve Perry in the lineup, I appreciate what Augeri brough to Journey and I appreciate the fact that the band kept going on and gave us new music. I think it's a crappy situation that went down in '98, but that's another argument.

strangegrey wrote:Please dont diminish Deen's dispicable statements by claiming it's just showbusiness. The guy's a dirtbag...he's claiming brotherhood while stabbing him in the back. fucking downright disgraceful...

Have you any connection with the band or that is just what you think of them ?

Would it matter to you if I did or not? I'll tell you what. ignore what I say, if it makes you feel better about yourself... Sometimes it's easier to breathe with sand around your head....

It doesn't make me feel better. I am always looking for the truth. Just wanna know if you were a credible source. Anyway how could I know...

http://www.melodicrock.com/Journey-LA20 ... -2006.html

and here's what deen said about "his brother" in mid October 2006

So, back to that show - you came to the rescue on that particular night.
I helped Stevie out as best as I could man, he's my brother.

Of course. Have you talked to him since or...
I haven't.

I guess since you're busy, you're on tour and...
Yeah, he hasn't called.

(Deen to Neal Schon, who has stepped into the room: Have you talked to Stevie at all dude, since the tour?
Neal responds: Not since he came to the show in New Jersey.
Deen: Yeah, that was the last time we saw him was in New Jersey.) this was mid september 2006

So, no I really haven't spoken to him, but like I said, I wish him the best.

Of course you do.
He's a brother.

his "brother" is out sick and he hasn't spoken to him. oh yeah deen's a real stand up guy. seems like the dedication may be just a way to reel in the fans, as he took a lot of heat for his comment in the interview, and feel a bit better about himself.

MCC620 wrote:http://www.melodicrock.com/Journey-LA2006/DeenCastronovo-2006.html

and here's what deen said about "his brother" in mid October 2006

So, back to that show - you came to the rescue on that particular night.
I helped Stevie out as best as I could man, he's my brother.

Of course. Have you talked to him since or...
I haven't.

I guess since you're busy, you're on tour and...
Yeah, he hasn't called.

(Deen to Neal Schon, who has stepped into the room: Have you talked to Stevie at all dude, since the tour?
Neal responds: Not since he came to the show in New Jersey.
Deen: Yeah, that was the last time we saw him was in New Jersey.) this was mid september 2006

So, no I really haven't spoken to him, but like I said, I wish him the best.

Of course you do.
He's a brother.

his "brother" is out sick and he hasn't spoken to him. oh yeah deen's a real stand up guy. seems like the dedication may be just a way to reel in the fans, as he took a lot of heat for his comment in the interview, and feel a bit better about himself.

Wow... that kinda pisses me off a little bit.

To me at least, it was never about the legacy sound or tapegate with regards to the removal of Augeri. It was about album sales, plain and simple.

Now that Journey has it's "Perry clone", they can throw the album at Wal-Mart, where EVERYONE shops and it'll sell.

I still think the whole Arrival deal with Sony was fucked up... but Journey fucked up even more by leaving Sony. They made Red 13, an EP, and gave away Generations... then pimp the fact that Revelation sold 1500% more than Generations. Well no shit... you didn't give Revelation away.

If they were so desperate to find a singer in 1998 that they'd pick up a guy they'd just fuck over for the next 7 years, then they never should have brought him on board.

Oh, and I'm still waiting for my DVD's they said they were releasing.

amaron wrote:

MCC620 wrote:http://www.melodicrock.com/Journey-LA2006/DeenCastronovo-2006.html

and here's what deen said about "his brother" in mid October 2006

So, back to that show - you came to the rescue on that particular night.
I helped Stevie out as best as I could man, he's my brother.

Of course. Have you talked to him since or...
I haven't.

I guess since you're busy, you're on tour and...
Yeah, he hasn't called.

(Deen to Neal Schon, who has stepped into the room: Have you talked to Stevie at all dude, since the tour?
Neal responds: Not since he came to the show in New Jersey.
Deen: Yeah, that was the last time we saw him was in New Jersey.) this was mid september 2006

So, no I really haven't spoken to him, but like I said, I wish him the best.

Of course you do.
He's a brother.

his "brother" is out sick and he hasn't spoken to him. oh yeah deen's a real stand up guy. seems like the dedication may be just a way to reel in the fans, as he took a lot of heat for his comment in the interview, and feel a bit better about himself.

Wow... that kinda pisses me off a little bit.

To me at least, it was never about the legacy sound or tapegate with regards to the removal of Augeri. It was about album sales, plain and simple.

Now that Journey has it's "Perry clone", they can throw the album at Wal-Mart, where EVERYONE shops and it'll sell.

I still think the whole Arrival deal with Sony was fucked up... but Journey fucked up even more by leaving Sony. They made Red 13, an EP, and gave away Generations... then pimp the fact that Revelation sold 1500% more than Generations. Well no shit... you didn't give Revelation away.

If they were so desperate to find a singer in 1998 that they'd pick up a guy they'd just fuck over for the next 7 years, then they never should have brought him on board.

Oh, and I'm still waiting for my DVD's they said they were releasing.

People thinking they 'gave' Generations away is a big misconception. There was a service charge on each ticket to cover that disc. It was paid for, just not in the conventional way.

Rick wrote:

amaron wrote:

MCC620 wrote:http://www.melodicrock.com/Journey-LA2006/DeenCastronovo-2006.html

and here's what deen said about "his brother" in mid October 2006

So, back to that show - you came to the rescue on that particular night.
I helped Stevie out as best as I could man, he's my brother.

Of course. Have you talked to him since or...
I haven't.

I guess since you're busy, you're on tour and...
Yeah, he hasn't called.

(Deen to Neal Schon, who has stepped into the room: Have you talked to Stevie at all dude, since the tour?
Neal responds: Not since he came to the show in New Jersey.
Deen: Yeah, that was the last time we saw him was in New Jersey.) this was mid september 2006

So, no I really haven't spoken to him, but like I said, I wish him the best.

Of course you do.
He's a brother.

his "brother" is out sick and he hasn't spoken to him. oh yeah deen's a real stand up guy. seems like the dedication may be just a way to reel in the fans, as he took a lot of heat for his comment in the interview, and feel a bit better about himself.

Wow... that kinda pisses me off a little bit.

To me at least, it was never about the legacy sound or tapegate with regards to the removal of Augeri. It was about album sales, plain and simple.

Now that Journey has it's "Perry clone", they can throw the album at Wal-Mart, where EVERYONE shops and it'll sell.

I still think the whole Arrival deal with Sony was fucked up... but Journey fucked up even more by leaving Sony. They made Red 13, an EP, and gave away Generations... then pimp the fact that Revelation sold 1500% more than Generations. Well no shit... you didn't give Revelation away.

If they were so desperate to find a singer in 1998 that they'd pick up a guy they'd just fuck over for the next 7 years, then they never should have brought him on board.

Oh, and I'm still waiting for my DVD's they said they were releasing.

People thinking they 'gave' Generations away is a big misconception. There was a service charge on each ticket to cover that disc. It was paid for, just not in the conventional way.

That's fine, but throwing out that 1500% figure is just revisionist history then. If they counted the CD's handed out at concerts, Generations would be a gold CD.

I know it's a press release, and they want to get some positive vibes in it any way they can, but anyone who has followed the band should be able to see through it.

amaron wrote: If they counted the CD's handed out at concerts, Generations would be a gold CD.

And "if" they counted the people that wished they could have given them back and been refunded, the sales would be exactly where they're at now.

Saint John wrote:

amaron wrote: If they counted the CD's handed out at concerts, Generations would be a gold CD.

And "if" they counted the people that wished they could have given them back and been refunded, the sales would be exactly where they're at now.

Wish in one hand, shit in the other...

MCC620 wrote:his "brother" is out sick and he hasn't spoken to him. oh yeah deen's a real stand up guy. seems like the dedication may be just a way to reel in the fans, as he took a lot of heat for his comment in the interview, and feel a bit better about himself.

Please don't continue to bore us with your barely literate, sob inducing bullshit. Steve Augeri is a man. One that, for whatever reason(s), stood on a stage and didn't sing live. We don't need your back dated editorials about a guy that is now seen less than Bin Laden. They're not interesting. Go back and resume stirring your cauldron of Kraft Macaroni and Cheese and enjoy your pre-lunch snack.