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I think I'm right in saying that in a recent interview Neal Schon stated that Journey music wasn't really his thing. I take this to mean that it is not the type of music he likes to listen to.

If that is correct you could argue that Journey's music lacks artistic integrity. Does it make a difference if the artist isn't into the music he or she makes?

What do you think?

Duncan wrote:I think I'm right in saying that in a recent interview Neal Schon stated that Journey music wasn't really his thing. I take this to mean that it is not the type of music he likes to listen to.

If that is correct you could argue that Journey's music lacks artistic integrity. Does it make a difference if the artist isn't into the music he or she makes?

What do you think?

I don't think that means Journey's music lacks integrity.
I can only compare this to my own situation - my favourite music is melodic rock. I also like other types of music very much, but melodic rock is what I listen to most.
However, [I make my living as a singer BTW] my voice is better suited to singing jazzy/bluesy type stuff, so that is what I sing.

I don't think that means I lack artistic integrity, I think it means I perform what I am best at.
Maybe that applies to Neal?

Although to my ears, he appears to be excellent at playing any type of music.

Duncan wrote:I think I'm right in saying that in a recent interview Neal Schon stated that Journey music wasn't really his thing. I take this to mean that it is not the type of music he likes to listen to.

If that is correct you could argue that Journey's music lacks artistic integrity. Does it make a difference if the artist isn't into the music he or she makes?

What do you think?

It's always annoyed me a bit to hear Neal make those statements, publically (and he's done it NUMEROUS times, over the years). It definitely gives you pause, to wonder just how "genuine" the music is, when one of the key members doesn't miss a chance to tell everyone "Hey, this Journey music stuff just doesn't work for me". Neal should hire a PR firm, who can advise him on what is smart to say, and what isn't, because he sounds like a complete jackass when he says such dopey stuff!


John from Boston

SusieP wrote:

Duncan wrote:I think I'm right in saying that in a recent interview Neal Schon stated that Journey music wasn't really his thing. I take this to mean that it is not the type of music he likes to listen to.

If that is correct you could argue that Journey's music lacks artistic integrity. Does it make a difference if the artist isn't into the music he or she makes?

What do you think?

I don't think that means Journey's music lacks integrity.
I can only compare this to my own situation - my favourite music is melodic rock. I also like other types of music very much, but melodic rock is what I listen to most.
However, [I make my living as a singer BTW] my voice is better suited to singing jazzy/bluesy type stuff, so that is what I sing.

I don't think that means I lack artistic integrity, I think it means I perform what I am best at.
Maybe that applies to Neal?

Although to my ears, he appears to be excellent at playing any type of music.

Fair enough, but if you were a songwriter would you write songs in a style you didn't like. The answer is probably "yes, if it pays good"

I imagine that most musicians prefer other styles of music and
what they create is more like a job at hand.
I don't think it means that their heart and soul ain't in it, just that
they enjoy a break from what they are expected to put forth.

Duncan wrote:

SusieP wrote:

Duncan wrote:I think I'm right in saying that in a recent interview Neal Schon stated that Journey music wasn't really his thing. I take this to mean that it is not the type of music he likes to listen to.

If that is correct you could argue that Journey's music lacks artistic integrity. Does it make a difference if the artist isn't into the music he or she makes?

What do you think?

I don't think that means Journey's music lacks integrity.
I can only compare this to my own situation - my favourite music is melodic rock. I also like other types of music very much, but melodic rock is what I listen to most.
However, [I make my living as a singer BTW] my voice is better suited to singing jazzy/bluesy type stuff, so that is what I sing.

I don't think that means I lack artistic integrity, I think it means I perform what I am best at.
Maybe that applies to Neal?

Although to my ears, he appears to be excellent at playing any type of music.

Fair enough, but if you were a songwriter would you write songs in a style you didn't like. The answer is probably "yes, if it pays good"

Well, I guess that would depend on how broke I was.

Moon Beam wrote:I imagine that most musicians prefer other styles of music and
what they create is more like a job at hand.
I don't think it means that their heart and soul ain't in it, just that
they enjoy a break from what they are expected to put forth.

Yeah, and when you create a winning formula which fans like, ie, '"the legacy" sound - it's easier to stick with it and keep giving them more of the same.
But if they are touring many months of each year I expect they do want to listen to something different.
You have a point there.

I don't listen to CD's of any of the songs I cover in my show - so I can agree with that, even though it hadnt occurred to me until you said it.

I don't think Neal was ever a big fan of the sappy ballad.

If he's been half assing all these years, then he is truly an amazing player and songwriter. I would like to hear what he can do with his heart 100% into it.

Enigma869 wrote:

Duncan wrote:I think I'm right in saying that in a recent interview Neal Schon stated that Journey music wasn't really his thing. I take this to mean that it is not the type of music he likes to listen to.

If that is correct you could argue that Journey's music lacks artistic integrity. Does it make a difference if the artist isn't into the music he or she makes?

What do you think?

It's always annoyed me a bit to hear Neal make those statements, publically (and he's done it NUMEROUS times, over the years). It definitely gives you pause, to wonder just how "genuine" the music is, when one of the key members doesn't miss a chance to tell everyone "Hey, this Journey music stuff just doesn't work for me". Neal should hire a PR firm, who can advise him on what is smart to say, and what isn't, because he sounds like a complete jackass when he says such dopey stuff!


John from Boston

Damn straight, John. Has there EVER been a band more in need of a good PR person?

Many times, musicians - especially song writers - never listen to their own type of music.

That way they are not even subconciously tempted to accidently plagarize.

Pete Townsend has often stated that he prefers to listen to classical music for just that reason.

Cat

I talked to him during the SS tour, I kept talking about Journey, he got a little annoyed and said, " I like playing in Journey,its my job,but I love doing this" I think he gets board quick,and likes to do different shit, but he knows Journey pays the bills

stevew2 wrote:I talked to him during the SS tour, I kept talking about Journey, he got a little annoyed and said, " I like playing in Journey,its my job,but I love doing this" I think he gets board quick,and likes to do different shit, but he knows Journey pays the bills

Maybe he got annoyed with you, because you tried hitting on him or hounded him for Cain's digits. Homo.

Tito wrote:

stevew2 wrote:I talked to him during the SS tour, I kept talking about Journey, he got a little annoyed and said, " I like playing in Journey,its my job,but I love doing this" I think he gets board quick,and likes to do different shit, but he knows Journey pays the bills

Maybe he got annoyed with you, because you tried hitting on him or hounded him for Cain's digits. Homo.

Even if I was gay {like you] he is to short and hairy, and Friga is to Fem, and easy. Im not the one whole started "The Friga Appreciation Thread" by the way. As I told Friga, "examine yourself"

I think Neal likes playing in Journey and does put his heart into his playing, but is personally unsatisfied with where the songs and albums as a whole go.

Check out his solo albums for some INCREDIBLE performances. I listen to Neal solo material almost as much, if not more than Journey.

I can relate to Neal. I played in a band for awhile that I enjoyed playing in and put in alot of effort on, BUT, I wasn't a fan of the direction or even the type of music we were playing.. it wasn't artistically charged for me at all.

ProgRocker53 wrote:I think Neal likes playing in Journey and does put his heart into his playing, but is personally unsatisfied with where the songs and albums as a whole go.

Check out his solo albums for some INCREDIBLE performances. I listen to Neal solo material almost as much, if not more than Journey.

I can relate to Neal. I played in a band for awhile that I enjoyed playing in and put in alot of effort on, BUT, I wasn't a fan of the direction or even the type of music we were playing.. it wasn't artistically charged for me at all.

I think that's right. He started out playing in this fabulous fusion band that morphed into an aor band. I like to hear a solo album from him where he really pushes the boundaries of his playing. A Steve Smith, Victor Wooten, Neal Schon fusion album would be great.

Duncan wrote:

ProgRocker53 wrote:I think Neal likes playing in Journey and does put his heart into his playing, but is personally unsatisfied with where the songs and albums as a whole go.

Check out his solo albums for some INCREDIBLE performances. I listen to Neal solo material almost as much, if not more than Journey.

I can relate to Neal. I played in a band for awhile that I enjoyed playing in and put in alot of effort on, BUT, I wasn't a fan of the direction or even the type of music we were playing.. it wasn't artistically charged for me at all.

I think that's right. He started out playing in this fabulous fusion band that morphed into an aor band. I like to hear a solo album from him where he really pushes the boundaries of his playing. A Steve Smith, Victor Wooten, Neal Schon fusion album would be great.

Don't use those three names in the same sentence together... I don't like sticky keyboards dude.

Enigma869 wrote:

Duncan wrote:I think I'm right in saying that in a recent interview Neal Schon stated that Journey music wasn't really his thing. I take this to mean that it is not the type of music he likes to listen to.

If that is correct you could argue that Journey's music lacks artistic integrity. Does it make a difference if the artist isn't into the music he or she makes?

What do you think?

It's always annoyed me a bit to hear Neal make those statements, publically (and he's done it NUMEROUS times, over the years). It definitely gives you pause, to wonder just how "genuine" the music is, when one of the key members doesn't miss a chance to tell everyone "Hey, this Journey music stuff just doesn't work for me". Neal should hire a PR firm, who can advise him on what is smart to say, and what isn't, because he sounds like a complete jackass when he says such dopey stuff!



John from Boston

I agree - he also once said that he thinks Journey could have made it big time if they had been allowed to keep going as a jazzy expiremental band - i cannot say i agree with him. they might had a career of sorts but not the stellar one they did end up. To be fair tho - he deffo went thru a phase where he liked hard rock - so maybe thats as close as it got. He liked AC/DC, Thin Lizzy and EVH.

Món wrote:Does someone have that statement Neal made way back when they got back together and hired Augeri?

It was something like "Hello, Jon? I'm playing right now and my guitar is speaking 'Journey' to me".....

Fucking hypocrite midget.

That hypocrite midget is one of the best dang guitarists ever.

ProgRocker53 wrote:

Món wrote:Does someone have that statement Neal made way back when they got back together and hired Augeri?

It was something like "Hello, Jon? I'm playing right now and my guitar is speaking 'Journey' to me".....

Fucking hypocrite midget.

That hypocrite midget is one of the best dang guitarists ever.

So is Yngwie.

So is EVH.

Both are skidmarks as well.

Your point?