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Huge SP fan

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:32 pm
by Rick
But Arnel is better on Only The Young.

Close the thread now, it's not even debatable. :D :lol:

Re: Huge SP fan

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:43 pm
by Perrydise
Rick wrote:But Arnel is better on Only The Young.

Close the thread now, it's not even debatable. :D :lol:


What a poop disturber you are Rick. :P


For the record - NO HE'S NOT!

Re: Huge SP fan

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:45 pm
by Just Sara
Rick wrote:But Arnel is better on Only The Young.

Close the thread now, it's not even debatable. :D :lol:



:shock:
Them's fightin' words, Rick! :)

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:50 pm
by Perrydise
Looks like you had agreat time Sara. I was reading some of the posts in the JSS thread. Great avatar pic.

Re: Huge SP fan

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:25 pm
by finalfight
Rick wrote:But Arnel is better on Only The Young


and Open Arms and Faithfully in my opinion of course. :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:52 pm
by Aaron
Back away from the pipe Rick. :)

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:54 pm
by jrnyjetster
Let's put it this way...Arnel's about as close as you get to the original! And I'm not sure the original could sing in that register any longer. I'd like to be proved wrong, however. :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:58 pm
by Saint John
I'm gonna refrain from using the word "better." I prefer Arnel's versions of Open Arms and Only The Young.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:37 pm
by conversationpc
Saint John wrote:I'm gonna refrain from using the word "better." I prefer Arnel's versions of Open Arms and Only The Young.


Me, too. I've never liked Perry's vocals on most of the live versions that I've heard of "Open Arms" and "Only the Young", especially the latter.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:52 pm
by twinklestar
swoon |swoōn| be emotionally affected by someone or something that one admires; become ecstatic;
a fan of Arnel Pineda

There you go, SP "loons!" It was just a matter of time before AP would have a name for his fans, the "swoons!"


:lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:56 pm
by lights1961
do not accept imitations... SP is DA MAN. I like Arnel on some of the new stuff.... especially
AFTER ALL THESE YEARS.


:D:D:D

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:28 am
by Schon Rules All
Saint John wrote:I'm gonna refrain from using the word "better." I prefer Arnel's versions of Open Arms and Only The Young.
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Sounds like a good way to put it to me... I agree... I like the re-records

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:34 am
by youkeepmewaiting
I think personally Arnels vocals on that song are just as good as Perrys recorded.. however Perrys version is better for the simple fact that it is Perry

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:34 am
by Spike
I wish I could hear what you're apparently hearing!

I hear an adequate singer (Arnel) who has a nice tone, but who rushes the vocals too much, too often ahead of the beat, and packing a zero emotional punch.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:40 am
by Matthew
conversationpc wrote:
Saint John wrote:I'm gonna refrain from using the word "better." I prefer Arnel's versions of Open Arms and Only The Young.


Me, too. I've never liked Perry's vocals on most of the live versions that I've heard of "Open Arms" and "Only the Young", especially the latter.


I've yet to hear a good live version of "Only The Young" from the Perry days I must admit...but for me Perry's studio version of that track is the best work he ever did. Untouchable.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:40 am
by bluejeangirl76
Spike wrote:I hear an adequate singer (Arnel) who has a nice tone, but who rushes the vocals too much, too often ahead of the beat, and packing a zero emotional punch.


True.

SP is the sugar. Arnel is the sucralose. I guess it will do in a pinch but you can't beat the real thing. (I could have said SP is the dick and Arnel is the vibrator, and still have the second part be true... :lol: and NO I don't mean "dick" the same way as when half of you all call him a dick... :lol: :lol: )

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:44 am
by Red13JoePa
Me with D2 of Revelation on: :mrgreen:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:45 am
by Rhiannon
bluejeangirl76 wrote:(I could have said SP is the dick and Arnel is the vibrator)


You did not just make that analogy... :shock:
You couldn't say Perry is Porterhouse and Arnel is filet?? :P
Perry is a venti macchiato and Arnel is a skinny latte no whip?
Perry is the Sears Tower and Arnel is the Hancock? (Ok, so that one is kind of phallic.)

:lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:27 am
by bluejeangirl76
Rhiannon wrote:You did not just make that analogy... :shock:


Actually it looks kind of like I DID. Your point? :lol:

As Coke used to say... "You Can't Beat The Real Thing."

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:28 am
by lights1961
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:You did not just make that analogy... :shock:


Actually it looks kind of like I DID. Your point? :lol:

As Coke used to say... "You Can't Beat The Real Thing."


coke and coke classic

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:34 am
by Rhiannon
bluejeangirl76 wrote:"You Can't Beat The Real Thing."


If you're making penis analogies then it stands to reason that you can beat the real thing. :P

Re: Huge SP fan

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:35 am
by mistiejourney
Rick wrote:But Arnel is better on Only The Young.

Close the thread now, it's not even debatable. :D :lol:


Rick, if you keep posting stuff like this,you are going to make me listen to the re-makes.

Hell, I'm still waiting for "Revelation" to arrive in the mail! (Hey NiG, notice the singular "RevelaTION"? :P :D :D )

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:37 am
by mistiejourney
Saint John wrote:I'm gonna refrain from using the word "better." I prefer Arnel's versions of Open Arms and Only The Young.


Ah, such a diplomatic way of stating it! To be honest, "Open Arms" was never a favorite of mine so it will be interesting to hear what AP does with it. :)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:39 am
by mistiejourney
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Spike wrote:I hear an adequate singer (Arnel) who has a nice tone, but who rushes the vocals too much, too often ahead of the beat, and packing a zero emotional punch.


True.

SP is the sugar. Arnel is the sucralose. I guess it will do in a pinch but you can't beat the real thing. (I could have said SP is the dick and Arnel is the vibrator, and still have the second part be true... :lol: and NO I don't mean "dick" the same way as when half of you all call him a dick... :lol: :lol: )


:shock: :shock: :shock:

Hopefully now it will be safe to drink my coffee! :lol: :lol: :lol:

And hopefully I won't have a mental image of Arnel as a vibrator. Thanks a lot! :lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:41 am
by mistiejourney
Rhiannon wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:"You Can't Beat The Real Thing."


If you're making penis analogies then it stands to reason that you can beat the real thing. :P


Nope, not coffee safe yet! :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:39 am
by epresley
Rhiannon wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:"You Can't Beat The Real Thing."


If you're making penis analogies then it stands to reason that you can beat the real thing. :P


:shock:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:59 am
by annie89509
I'm with Matthew. Okay, we can all agree Arnel's live version may be better than SP's live, because OTY was introduced (live) on the ROR tour, where SP's vocals were starting to decline. However, nobody but nobody, can be better than SP on any of the recorded stuff -- ever!

Open Arms and Faithfully, give me a break! Nobody but SP can sing those songs with the emotion like the Voice. Recorded or Live!

That's my opinion!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 7:09 am
by Rick
conversationpc wrote:
Saint John wrote:I'm gonna refrain from using the word "better." I prefer Arnel's versions of Open Arms and Only The Young.


Me, too. I've never liked Perry's vocals on most of the live versions that I've heard of "Open Arms" and "Only the Young", especially the latter.


I thought I had read where you said something to the effect, but wasn't sure what song it was. I've listened to the rerecords a few times, and that one really stands out. I even like the vocal inflection he has at the beginning. I tend to agree with the poster in this thread that said he rushes the notes sometimes. Perry would ever so slightly lay off the beat a little, letting the music come through and his vocals blend in more. Arnel kicks OTY right square in the ass though.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:46 am
by tammy
Huge SP fan here and AP is not better on any of the songs. I think AP has a great voice and does very well on the new songs, but I could only listen to the re-records once...just can't get past this whole deal & the songs sounded "off". SP was co-creator & embodied those words & melody and put them out into the world - that means a lot. If we go with analogies (I can't compete with BJG & Rhi - lol) think of a Picasso or Degas and a reproduction painting. Which would you rather have?

Re: Huge SP fan

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:59 am
by STORY_TELLER
Rick wrote:But Arnel is better on Only The Young.

Close the thread now, it's not even debatable. :D :lol:


In the studio, no. Not even the re-record touches the soaring depth Perry nailed in the Frontiers session.

Live however, yeah, I agree.

Every time I've heard OTY live from Perry, it's been the opening song of the night though. Most singers have a warm up period during the first song and OTY isn't the best choice for that. Geddy Lee scared me at the rush concert when he was pitchy on their opening song (limelight).

If the band opened with OTY I wonder if Arnel would hit it as well? Can you say "Chile"?