MR

Posted: **Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:31 pm**

Great analysis by Peter King, a man who is definitely in the know. My money is on Favre wearing Vikings purple and playing against the Packers in Lambeau Week One.

KING: “HELL IS COMING” FOR FAVRE, PACKERS

In his Monday Morning Quarterback column, Peter King of SI.com breaks down the information he has developed of late regarding the Brett Favre situation, which has included a trip by King to Mississippi to meet with Favre.

King’s bottom-line assessment? “[W]e all know that hell is coming.”

Ten things that King knows about the situation are then set forth. A quick summary of what struck as as the key points appears below.

First, King believes that the Packers won’t release Favre, for fear that he’ll land with the Vikings.

Second, Favre has twice refused to give G.M. Ted Thompson a list of teams to which Favre would accept a trade.

Third, the Packers don’t want a first-round pick, but might want a conditional deal that could result in a first-rounder if Favre and his new team have a big year.

Fourth, King believes (apparently based on information he has gathered) that the Vikings won’t be nailed for tampering with Favre. We think that the ultimate outcome will hinge on the information obtained directly from the Vikings, including any internal e-mails and/or interviews of coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell. If King knows what the league office knows on these matters, then look for no penalty to be imposed.

Fifth, if Favre reports for Packers camp, there will be no competition for the starting job; Aaron Rodgers truly is their guy now. Writes King: “The Packers are going to go with Rodgers, and go down in flames with him if need be.”

Sixth, Favre is characterized as “lukewarm at best” to the concept of playing for the Jets or the Buccaneers.

Seventh, King raises the possibility of the Packers paying Favre his full $12 million salary to stay away and to play for no one. Favre doesn’t want that — and under the CBA, teams no longer can pay a guy to stay home.

King also proposes a solution to the mess. It’s creative and insightful, but we think it won’t happen. In the end, the Packers options are going to be to welcome him back or release him. Favre knows it, and that’s why he’s prepared to apply a set of pliers to Thompson’s most sensitive region.

And squeeze hard.

So, yeah, hell is coming. But the end result will be freedom for Favre. The Packers are trying their damnedest to avoid it, but in the end they can’t. All they can do is drag this out, in the hopes of delaying the amount of time that Favre will have with his new team to prepare for Week One.

Especially if the new team is the Vikings, who’ll spend Week One at Lambeau Field.

Posted: **Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:37 pm**

NealIsGod wrote:Great analysis by Peter King, a man who is definitely in the know. My money is on Favre wearing Vikings purple and playing against the Packers in Lambeau Week One.

KING: “HELL IS COMING” FOR FAVRE, PACKERS

In his Monday Morning Quarterback column, Peter King of SI.com breaks down the information he has developed of late regarding the Brett Favre situation, which has included a trip by King to Mississippi to meet with Favre.

King’s bottom-line assessment? “[W]e all know that hell is coming.”

Ten things that King knows about the situation are then set forth. A quick summary of what struck as as the key points appears below.

First, King believes that the Packers won’t release Favre, for fear that he’ll land with the Vikings.

Second, Favre has twice refused to give G.M. Ted Thompson a list of teams to which Favre would accept a trade.

Third, the Packers don’t want a first-round pick, but might want a conditional deal that could result in a first-rounder if Favre and his new team have a big year.

Fourth, King believes (apparently based on information he has gathered) that the Vikings won’t be nailed for tampering with Favre. We think that the ultimate outcome will hinge on the information obtained directly from the Vikings, including any internal e-mails and/or interviews of coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell. If King knows what the league office knows on these matters, then look for no penalty to be imposed.

Fifth, if Favre reports for Packers camp, there will be no competition for the starting job; Aaron Rodgers truly is their guy now. Writes King: “The Packers are going to go with Rodgers, and go down in flames with him if need be.”

Sixth, Favre is characterized as “lukewarm at best” to the concept of playing for the Jets or the Buccaneers.

Seventh, King raises the possibility of the Packers paying Favre his full $12 million salary to stay away and to play for no one. Favre doesn’t want that — and under the CBA, teams no longer can pay a guy to stay home.

King also proposes a solution to the mess. It’s creative and insightful, but we think it won’t happen. In the end, the Packers options are going to be to welcome him back or release him. Favre knows it, and that’s why he’s prepared to apply a set of pliers to Thompson’s most sensitive region.

And squeeze hard.

So, yeah, hell is coming. But the end result will be freedom for Favre. The Packers are trying their damnedest to avoid it, but in the end they can’t. All they can do is drag this out, in the hopes of delaying the amount of time that Favre will have with his new team to prepare for Week One.

Especially if the new team is the Vikings, who’ll spend Week One at Lambeau Field.

I read this article this morning. Where in all of that do you see him going to the Vikings? I think it's pretty clear that will NOT happen.

Posted: **Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:38 pm**

if favre goes to the vikings that team would be very entertaining to watch because the main weak spot on the vikings is the QB position and if favre joins that team would be so good its scary.peterson in the backfield,berrian catching balls and favre under center not to mention the defense.i'd have minnesota and dallas in the NFC championship easily if favre does hit minnesota but no way do i think the packers allow its rivals to snatch favre.

Posted: **Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:40 pm**

if favre went to the vikes that week one game against the packers would be probably the most watched regular season game in history,how could you not watch it.that would be a classic.

Posted: **Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:50 pm**

Onestepper wrote:I read this article this morning. Where in all of that do you see him going to the Vikings? I think it's pretty clear that will NOT happen.

1) Favre is characterized as “lukewarm at best” to the concept of playing for the Jets or the Buccaneers.

2) In the end, the Packers options are going to be to welcome him back or release him. Favre knows it, and that’s why he’s prepared to apply a set of pliers to Thompson’s most sensitive region.

3) All they can do is drag this out, in the hopes of delaying the amount of time that Favre will have with his new team to prepare for Week One.

We all know Favre has been in contact with the Vikings and that they are his first choice. It looks like the Packers may have to just release Favre to avoid ruining the team, and if that happens, the Vikings will probably be his new team.

I changed the thread topic since it was a bit strong. :lol:

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:13 am**

NealIsGod wrote:
Onestepper wrote:I read this article this morning. Where in all of that do you see him going to the Vikings? I think it's pretty clear that will NOT happen.

1) Favre is characterized as “lukewarm at best” to the concept of playing for the Jets or the Buccaneers.

2) In the end, the Packers options are going to be to welcome him back or release him. Favre knows it, and that’s why he’s prepared to apply a set of pliers to Thompson’s most sensitive region.

3) All they can do is drag this out, in the hopes of delaying the amount of time that Favre will have with his new team to prepare for Week One.

We all know Favre has been in contact with the Vikings and that they are his first choice. It looks like the Packers may have to just release Favre to avoid ruining the team, and if that happens, the Vikings will probably be his new team.

I changed the thread topic since it was a bit strong.

Can't imagine them releasing him outright. That would be just stupid. He'll be traded or sit in Mississippi all season. And he'll make $12 Mill doing it. I feel for him.

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:13 am**

Favre is such a tool. He's turned himself into a cliche. As with any aging future hall of famer, he can't let go of his juvenile ego.

Within a couple of years, he'll be forced into retirement disgracefully and wish he'd never pulled any of this crap. His only hope now is that he doesn't get seriously injured.

Hope I'm wrong...

later~

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:18 am**

If he GOES TO THE VIKINGS... HE BETTER PREY that Arron KAMPMAN or AJ HAWK dont get a PIECE OF HIM and BREAK HIS LEG. Would that not be fitting though as the Vikings o line is not that great... His 254 start with the vikings and then he gets hurt... That would make my year!! And Arron Rogers goes on the win the super bowl ala Steve Young after Joe Montana

Rick

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:21 am**

Arkansas wrote:Favre is such a tool. He's turned himself into a cliche. As with any aging future hall of famer, he can't let go of his juvenile ego.

Within a couple of years, he'll be forced into retirement disgracefully and wish he'd never pulled any of this crap. His only hope now is that he doesn't get seriously injured.

Hope I'm wrong...

later~

As King described in his article, people will forget all about this when he goes into the HOF. His legacy will be fine, and the Packers will give him his name on the stadium and bronze statue. There are plenty of examples of players who's career did not end the way we would have liked it to, and most (Rice, Montana etc) are remembered for their accomplishments.

sooner~

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:28 am**

Onestepper wrote:
Arkansas wrote:Favre is such a tool. He's turned himself into a cliche. As with any aging future hall of famer, he can't let go of his juvenile ego.

Within a couple of years, he'll be forced into retirement disgracefully and wish he'd never pulled any of this crap. His only hope now is that he doesn't get seriously injured.

Hope I'm wrong...

later~

As King described in his article, people will forget all about this when he goes into the HOF. His legacy will be fine, and the Packers will give him his name on the stadium and bronze statue. There are plenty of examples of players who's career did not end the way we would have liked it to, and most (Rice, Montana etc) are remembered for their accomplishments.

sooner~

And that's exactly my point with calling him a cliche. He's doing the exact things already done. Retire, reneg, go to another team. Do nothing. Retire again. Wow. What a novel idea! Geez...

Why can't he do something different? Why can't he remain loyal to GB and do what he said he'd do? Why does he have to tarnish his career like so many others have done? And why does he have to be an a$$ about it?

He's like some punk kid in high school that you just want to slap. I wish he'd just shut his yap & go away (and I'm a fan).

later~

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:29 am**

Onestepper wrote:Can't imagine them releasing him outright. That would be just stupid. He'll be traded or sit in Mississippi all season. And he'll make $12 Mill doing it. I feel for him.

The new CBA will not allow them to pay him to sit home or else they would do that. They have to trade him to a team he wants to go to or release him. Or welcome him back as starting QB, which they have stated there is no way in hell they will do that. Unless another team steps up to the plate that Favre will accept a trade to, all signs point to the Packers just releasing him. The Packers have called all 31 other teams and only two have expressed interest. The Packers are probably hoping a good team's starting QB goes down somewhere in preseason so they can trade Favre to them.

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:33 am**

NealIsGod wrote:
Onestepper wrote:Can't imagine them releasing him outright. That would be just stupid. He'll be traded or sit in Mississippi all season. And he'll make $12 Mill doing it. I feel for him.

The new CBA will not allow them to pay him to sit home or else they would do that. They have to trade him to a team he wants to go to or release him. Or welcome him back as starting QB, which they have stated there is no way in hell they will do that. Unless another team steps up to the plate that Favre will accept a trade to, all signs point to the Packers just releasing him. The Packers have called all 31 other teams and only two have expressed interest. The Packers are probably hoping a good team's starting QB goes down somewhere in preseason so they can trade Favre to them.

They don't have to welcome him back as the starting QB. They can tell him he's the backup or third string, and he can sit on the bench all season. And if that is the case, I'm assuming he'll just stay retired and this all goes away. Looks like the Commish is getting involved, as I'm sure he wants him to play somewhere. Rules were meant to be broken.

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:38 am**

Onestepper wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Onestepper wrote:Can't imagine them releasing him outright. That would be just stupid. He'll be traded or sit in Mississippi all season. And he'll make $12 Mill doing it. I feel for him.

The new CBA will not allow them to pay him to sit home or else they would do that. They have to trade him to a team he wants to go to or release him. Or welcome him back as starting QB, which they have stated there is no way in hell they will do that. Unless another team steps up to the plate that Favre will accept a trade to, all signs point to the Packers just releasing him. The Packers have called all 31 other teams and only two have expressed interest. The Packers are probably hoping a good team's starting QB goes down somewhere in preseason so they can trade Favre to them.

They don't have to welcome him back as the starting QB. They can tell him he's the backup or third string, and he can sit on the bench all season. And if that is the case, I'm assuming he'll just stay retired and this all goes away. Looks like the Commish is getting involved, as I'm sure he wants him to play somewhere. Rules were meant to be broken.

Well, Favre can nix any trade, so if he really will only play for MN, then he can force the Packers to keep him on the team all year. If the Packers keep him as a backup, the crowd will be yelling "FAVRE" every time Rodgers throws a pick. What a mess. :lol:

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:40 am**

NealIsGod wrote:
Onestepper wrote:
NealIsGod wrote:
Onestepper wrote:Can't imagine them releasing him outright. That would be just stupid. He'll be traded or sit in Mississippi all season. And he'll make $12 Mill doing it. I feel for him.

The new CBA will not allow them to pay him to sit home or else they would do that. They have to trade him to a team he wants to go to or release him. Or welcome him back as starting QB, which they have stated there is no way in hell they will do that. Unless another team steps up to the plate that Favre will accept a trade to, all signs point to the Packers just releasing him. The Packers have called all 31 other teams and only two have expressed interest. The Packers are probably hoping a good team's starting QB goes down somewhere in preseason so they can trade Favre to them.

They don't have to welcome him back as the starting QB. They can tell him he's the backup or third string, and he can sit on the bench all season. And if that is the case, I'm assuming he'll just stay retired and this all goes away. Looks like the Commish is getting involved, as I'm sure he wants him to play somewhere. Rules were meant to be broken.

Well, Favre can nix any trade, so if he really will only play for MN, then he can force the Packers to keep him on the team all year. If the Packers keep him as a backup, the crowd will be yelling "FAVRE" every time Rodgers throws a pick. What a mess.

I know. The drama will make for good TV over the season no matter what happens. Another reason RG wants him to play. Ratings mean REVENUE! :lol:

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:43 am**

Onestepper wrote: ... Looks like the Commish is getting involved, as I'm sure he wants him to play somewhere. ...

No doubt that his playing will be a very good thing for the NFL. TV ratings and game attendance will definitely spike every time he takes the field. Many want him to succeed. Some want him to fail. I bet there are bookies taking all sorts of exotic bets on Favre right now.

Overall, this is simply too bad for GB. Unless they have some sort of cinderella season, they'll probably fade into obscure mediocrity. Wonder what the chances are of Favre returning to GB for the 09 season?

later~

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:33 am**

There is no way he's going to the Vikings. That would make them an automatic SB contender. They would not trade him to an arch-rival division opponent.

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:50 am**

Tito wrote:There is no way he's going to the Vikings. That would make them an automatic SB contender. They would not trade him to an arch-rival division opponent.

No, but if they release him, that is where he will end up. I just heard some Wisconsin reporter on sports radio say that Favre will do one of these three things:

1) Be the starting QB of the Packers
2) Be the starting QB of the Vikings
2) Stay retired

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:08 am**

There is no way they are releasing him for nothing. The media is a fountain of misinformation as well. :lol:

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:29 am**

Tito wrote:There is no way they are releasing him for nothing. The media is a fountain of misinformation as well.

NOW this i agree with... LAST I HEARD Brett was still under contract WITH THE PACKERS and management has the FINAL SAY. Now maybe the RED SOX and PACKERS CAN WORK OUT A TRADE..
brett for Manny!! Brett as a pitcher and Manny as defensive end... I would love to see MANNY hit someone!

Rick

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:32 am**

I think I'm going to throw. up. :roll:

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:44 am**

Angiekay wrote:

I think I'm going to throw. up.

i dont want to see that!! ;-)

Angiekay... Twins White Sox this week... I hope they get going again as they did Saturday and Sunday in Cleveland.
the season starts now two months left.

Rick

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:51 am**

lights1961 wrote:
Angiekay wrote:

I think I'm going to throw. up.

i dont want to see that!!

Angiekay... Twins White Sox this week... I hope they get going again as they did Saturday and Sunday in Cleveland.
the season starts now two months left.

Rick

Oh, I'm hoping they can pull this series out! It would help tremendously and be nice to be in first place!!

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 5:53 am**

Angiekay wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
Angiekay wrote:

I think I'm going to throw. up.

i dont want to see that!!

Angiekay... Twins White Sox this week... I hope they get going again as they did Saturday and Sunday in Cleveland.
the season starts now two months left.

Rick

Oh, I'm hoping they can pull this series out! It would help tremendously and be nice to be in first place!!

yep... biggest thing right now is they need to get healthy..

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:35 am**

The White Sox have about as many real, hardcore, diehard fans as the Marlins...you can count 'em on one hand. They are the antithesis of Cubs fans.

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:36 am**

I'm hoping the Manny-for-Dunn deal can be worked out. Ol' Strike Three would be a downgrade in production, but I'm done with Ramirez' bullshit. Done. When I see them play in September I will make it a point to boo that lardass.

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:36 am**

lights1961 wrote:
Angiekay wrote:

I think I'm going to throw. up.

i dont want to see that!!

Angiekay... Twins White Sox this week... I hope they get going again as they did Saturday and Sunday in Cleveland.
the season starts now two months left.

Rick

You watch your mouth. :lol:

White Sox all the way. Could be a good platform for Perry to tout his comeback CD. :roll:

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:37 am**

7 Wishes wrote:The White Sox have about as many real, hardcore, diehard fans as the Marlins...you can count 'em on one hand. They are the antithesis of Cubs fans.

Bite your tongue. :evil:

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:40 am**

Yeah. The funny thing is, they barely broke 1 million fans in 2004. Strange coincidence.

Besides, I love Chicago. That city had one title in the past century prior to the White Sox (note: I do not recognize old NFL championships, as there were only 6-8 teams in the 30's, 40's, and 50's.

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:43 am**

7 Wishes wrote:Yeah. The funny thing is, they barely broke 1 million fans in 2004. Strange coincidence.

Besides, I love Chicago. That city had one title in the past century prior to the White Sox (note: I do not recognize old NFL championships, as there were only 6-8 teams in the 30's, 40's, and 50's.

They drew over 1.9 million in 2004. They last time they barely drew over a million was '89.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/teams/wsoxatte.shtml

Posted: **Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:45 am**

Tito wrote:

Hmm... explains why that part of Wacker smells like bung. :lol:

MR

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