MR

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:26 am**

The Packers on Wednesday offered Favre a substantial sum of money -- as much as $20 million over several years -- to stay retired.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3512348

I don't get this, AT ALL! Don't get me wrong...I think Favre is a JACKASS for the way he's handled this situation. That said, The Packers are supposed to be trying to win games, and anyone who thinks that Favre doesn't give them the best chance of doing that is clueless!

John from Boston

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:36 am**

I'm sure the Players Union is about to come out, guns blazing.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:50 am**

Enigma869 wrote:The Packers on Wednesday offered Favre a substantial sum of money -- as much as $20 million over several years -- to stay retired.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3512348

I don't get this, AT ALL! Don't get me wrong...I think Favre is a JACKASS for the way he's handled this situation. That said, The Packers are supposed to be trying to win games, and anyone who thinks that Favre doesn't give them the best chance of doing that is clueless!

John from Boston

Think OF STEVE PERRY wanting to come back to JOURNEY and you have AZOFF flying out to Perrys Ranch saying stay home---if Perry all the sudden wanted to come out of retirment... especially now with the success and impact ARNEL fronted Journey are having this year.

THIS IS HOW UGLY DIVORCES go.

Rick

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:05 am**

What I find very interesting is the fact that the GM was hired 4 years ago and 4 years ago the retirement talk for Brett started. At the end of each season the press would start the "is Brett going to retire this year? Is this the year Brett will retire?" My god that got so boring. Brett never once even said he was thinking of retirement. Before this GM got to GB there was never any talk about Brett retiring. None at all here in Wisconsin. Talk of Brett making crappy plays but not of retirement. There's more to this story about GB wanting Brett to stay out of GB. Get to the bottom of that and you'll have the real story. My guess, the GM has a problem and using Brett.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:16 am**

lights1961 wrote:Think OF STEVE PERRY wanting to come back to JOURNEY and you have AZOFF flying out to Perrys Ranch saying stay home---if Perry all the sudden wanted to come out of retirment... especially now with the success and impact ARNEL fronted Journey are having this year.

THIS IS HOW UGLY DIVORCES go.

Rick

Horrible analogy, Rick! For starters, if Perry wanted to come out of retirement, and could actually still sing, it would be game, set, match for Mr. Pineda. I like Arnel, a lot, and think the guy is immensely talented. That said, Arnel isn't close to Perry, on his best night!

Also...what's with everyone going on and on about the "success and impact" Journey is having??? What am I missing here?? I live in a major metropolitan city, and I certainly am not hearing any buzz about Journey. In fact, anytime I mention the band, the word association is always "80's band". I'm taking nothing away from Arnel or Revelation, but charting on the "Adult Contemporary" charts simply means all of us old fucks are still trying to hold on to our youth and keep listening to that style of music. If it enters into the regular Billboard top 40 charts, I'll change my opinion on this issue. Revelation is an okay CD, with a couple of really good tracks on it. I think most Journey fans are making Revelation out to be Escape (which it isn't), and it's simply not anywhere near as good as some would have you believe! I actually think "Arrival" was better, and I don't think Steve Augeri was half the vocalist that Arnel is!

John from Boston

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:22 am**

Enigma869 wrote:The Packers on Wednesday offered Favre a substantial sum of money -- as much as $20 million over several years -- to stay retired.

John from Boston

I will stay home for $10 million.

Not a problem.

Cat

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:48 am**

Enigma869 wrote:
lights1961 wrote:Think OF STEVE PERRY wanting to come back to JOURNEY and you have AZOFF flying out to Perrys Ranch saying stay home---if Perry all the sudden wanted to come out of retirment... especially now with the success and impact ARNEL fronted Journey are having this year.

THIS IS HOW UGLY DIVORCES go.

Rick

Horrible analogy, Rick! For starters, if Perry wanted to come out of retirement, and could actually still sing, it would be game, set, match for Mr. Pineda. I like Arnel, a lot, and think the guy is immensely talented. That said, Arnel isn't close to Perry, on his best night!

Also...what's with everyone going on and on about the "success and impact" Journey is having??? What am I missing here?? I live in a major metropolitan city, and I certainly am not hearing any buzz about Journey. In fact, anytime I mention the band, the word association is always "80's band". I'm taking nothing away from Arnel or Revelation, but charting on the "Adult Contemporary" charts simply means all of us old fucks are still trying to hold on to our youth and keep listening to that style of music. If it enters into the regular Billboard top 40 charts, I'll change my opinion on this issue. Revelation is an okay CD, with a couple of really good tracks on it. I think most Journey fans are making Revelation out to be Escape (which it isn't), and it's simply not anywhere near as good as some would have you believe! I actually think "Arrival" was better, and I don't think Steve Augeri was half the vocalist that Arnel is!
John from Boston

This is funny!!!

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:06 am**

Enigma869 wrote:
lights1961 wrote:Think OF STEVE PERRY wanting to come back to JOURNEY and you have AZOFF flying out to Perrys Ranch saying stay home---if Perry all the sudden wanted to come out of retirment... especially now with the success and impact ARNEL fronted Journey are having this year.

THIS IS HOW UGLY DIVORCES go.

Rick

Horrible analogy, Rick! For starters, if Perry wanted to come out of retirement, and could actually still sing, it would be game, set, match for Mr. Pineda. I like Arnel, a lot, and think the guy is immensely talented. That said, Arnel isn't close to Perry, on his best night!

Also...what's with everyone going on and on about the "success and impact" Journey is having??? What am I missing here?? I live in a major metropolitan city, and I certainly am not hearing any buzz about Journey. In fact, anytime I mention the band, the word association is always "80's band". I'm taking nothing away from Arnel or Revelation, but charting on the "Adult Contemporary" charts simply means all of us old fucks are still trying to hold on to our youth and keep listening to that style of music. If it enters into the regular Billboard top 40 charts, I'll change my opinion on this issue. Revelation is an okay CD, with a couple of really good tracks on it. I think most Journey fans are making Revelation out to be Escape (which it isn't), and it's simply not anywhere near as good as some would have you believe! I actually think "Arrival" was better, and I don't think Steve Augeri was half the vocalist that Arnel is!

John from Boston

PLEASE... THEN WHY HASNT HE???

Rick

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:16 am**

Enigma869 wrote:
lights1961 wrote:Think OF STEVE PERRY wanting to come back to JOURNEY and you have AZOFF flying out to Perrys Ranch saying stay home---if Perry all the sudden wanted to come out of retirment... especially now with the success and impact ARNEL fronted Journey are having this year.

THIS IS HOW UGLY DIVORCES go.

Rick

Horrible analogy, Rick! For starters, if Perry wanted to come out of retirement, and could actually still sing, it would be game, set, match for Mr. Pineda. I like Arnel, a lot, and think the guy is immensely talented. That said, Arnel isn't close to Perry, on his best night!

Also...what's with everyone going on and on about the "success and impact" Journey is having??? What am I missing here?? I live in a major metropolitan city, and I certainly am not hearing any buzz about Journey. In fact, anytime I mention the band, the word association is always "80's band". I'm taking nothing away from Arnel or Revelation, but charting on the "Adult Contemporary" charts simply means all of us old fucks are still trying to hold on to our youth and keep listening to that style of music. If it enters into the regular Billboard top 40 charts, I'll change my opinion on this issue. Revelation is an okay CD, with a couple of really good tracks on it. I think most Journey fans are making Revelation out to be Escape (which it isn't), and it's simply not anywhere near as good as some would have you believe! I actually think "Arrival" was better, and I don't think Steve Augeri was half the vocalist that Arnel is!

John from Boston

Amen to all of that.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:26 am**

A lot of sports pundits have compared the Favre-GB situation to Joe Montana-SF. Montana had won 4 Super Bowls for the 49ers! They had Steve Young waiting in the wings, playing backup for YEARS. By the late '80s, Montana was getting pretty banged up, but still considered one of the top quarterbacks in the game. But, how can you expect to keep a younger, stronger, faster, hunk sitting on the bench playing backup indefinitely? Montana was only about 33-34 at the time, too young to retire, so the 49ers traded (or released, don't remember) him to the KC Chiefs. He played there for 2 years, I think, where nothing significant happened. He finally decided to retire when he realized that he was born to play for a team with the system of Bill Walsh's 49ers.

The difference here is Steve Young was a proven winning QB, took over for Joe when he got sidelined quite a bit in games from taking hits. As have Favre in recent years with his concussions. Both Young and Montana made it to the HofH in their 1st year of eligibility. This young kid, Aaron Rogers, has yet to prove himself. Although, not following football much with the 49ers tanking after their last hurrah (early 90s).

Favre, like Montana, is made to be a Packer. I think he would look awkward playing for any other team.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:27 am**

They should offer him 30 million to put a shotgun in his mouth and pull the trigger. I'm fuckin' tired of this asshole and the circus he's created. :evil:

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:30 am**

Saint John wrote:They should offer him 30 million to put a shotgun in his mouth and pull the trigger. I'm fuckin' tired of this asshole and the circus he's created.

I'll pitch in a sawbuck.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:42 am**

NealIsGod wrote:
Saint John wrote:They should offer him 30 million to put a shotgun in his mouth and pull the trigger. I'm fuckin' tired of this asshole and the circus he's created.

I'll pitch in a sawbuck.

Iam sure Ang would too!!

Hey i stand by my remarks... it is a divorce and that is what is happening in GB and that is what Journey did to SP. ...the reunion would have happend already if PERRY/NEAL were serious about it. And if they ever get to the ROHOF i can bet that they will not SING TOGETHER.

Rick

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:08 am**

Enigma869 wrote:The Packers on Wednesday offered Favre a substantial sum of money -- as much as $20 million over several years -- to stay retired.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3512348

I don't get this, AT ALL! Don't get me wrong...I think Favre is a JACKASS for the way he's handled this situation. That said, The Packers are supposed to be trying to win games, and anyone who thinks that Favre doesn't give them the best chance of doing that is clueless!

John from Boston

John your not going to believe this but..I AGREE!! ( :shock:

)

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:25 am**

NealIsGod wrote:
Saint John wrote:They should offer him 30 million to put a shotgun in his mouth and pull the trigger. I'm fuckin' tired of this asshole and the circus he's created.

I'll pitch in a sawbuck.

::SHUDDER::

You guys sure know how to get a girl ALLLL excited!

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:43 am**

I think Brett Favre, mentally, is going through what Joe Montana was going through . I was there, the 49er's were my hometown team. Euphoria in the BayArea for all those championships, and Joe was a sports God. Then, those last few years, every time Joe went down, and people saw Steve Young in action, the handwriting was on the wall for Joe to move over.

After Bill Walsh coached his last Super Bowl win (the 3rd or 4th), he shocked everyone by announcing his retirement, and handpicked his successor, Offensive Coordinator George Siefert. It was as if he wanted to go out a winner, and the changing the guard was set in motion. Although, not nearly the drama as happening now, I recall at the time, Montana pretty much said ... he still loves the game, he's healthy and good enough to start for any team in the NFL, if the 49ers don't want to play him then trade him to another team that will.

I think this is where Packer fans are at now. The difference is Montana never announced his retirement (from the 49ers), and the 49er's never offered him 20M to stay away :lol:

!

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:48 am**

Trying to talk "serious" here, and all you guys want to do is piss around :!:

. Remind me never to talk sports with "boys."

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:52 am**

What does all of this say about the Packer organization? They are willing to pay Favre MORE to stay retired, than they would to pay him to play the game. Getting to this point is laughable. The WHOLE Packer organization is SO concerned about Favre, that they are losing track of their own team. I hope Favre goes within' the division and embarrasses these guys. Whatever the case may be, we all know the ratings will be through the roof if Favre goes and sides somewhere else in the North. Could you imagine #4 in a Viking uniform? Monday Night Football Kickoff.. PACKERS VS VIKINGS. MMM-mm-MM MM mm! Tasty.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:58 am**

YoungJRNY wrote:What does all of this say about the Packer organization? They are willing to pay Favre MORE to stay retired, than they would to pay him to play the game. Getting to this point is laughable. The WHOLE Packer organization is SO concerned about Favre, than they are losing track of their own team. I hope Favre goes within' the division and embarrasses these guys. Whatever the case may be, we all know the ratings will be through the roof if Favre goes and sides somewhere else in the North. Could you imagine #4 in a Viking uniform? Monday Night Football Kickoff.. PACKERS VS VIKINGS. MMM-mm-MM MM mm! Tasty.

count me in as one of those who hopes he gets turf toe at that crap the metrodome and is out for the year... or AJ HAWK in the first games cracks his knees... that would be fitting and ironic. 253 games and no misses... one and done with the vikings...

Rick

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:02 am**

YoungJRNY wrote:Could you imagine #4 in a Viking uniform?

No.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:10 am**

Rhiannon wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:Could you imagine #4 in a Viking uniform?

No.

(Mel Face.. :cry:

)

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:13 am**

annie89509 wrote:I think Brett Favre, mentally, is going through what Joe Montana was going through . I was there, the 49er's were my hometown team. Euphoria in the BayArea for all those championships, and Joe was a sports God. Then, those last few years, every time Joe went down, and people saw Steve Young in action, the handwriting was on the wall for Joe to move over.

After Bill Walsh coached his last Super Bowl win (the 3rd or 4th), he shocked everyone by announcing his retirement, and handpicked his successor, Offensive Coordinator George Siefert. It was as if he wanted to go out a winner, and the changing the guard was set in motion. Although, not nearly the drama as happening now, I recall at the time, Montana pretty much said ... he still loves the game, he's healthy and good enough to start for any team in the NFL, if the 49ers don't want to play him then trade him to another team that will.

I think this is where Packer fans are at now. The difference is Montana never announced his retirement (from the 49ers), and the 49er's never offered him 20M to stay away !

The difference is that Montana didn't carry on with a bogus retirement tour, at the end of every season, and was always a class act. Hell, the guy is such an icon, that a town in Montana renamed itself "Joe" (true story) :shock:

Also, Montana has a lot more rings on his fingers than Favre has! The bottom line is what you already alluded to...Steve Young won a championship with Joe Montana on the team. There was NO WAY that the 49'ers were sending Young to the bench for an aging and banged up Montana! Aaron Rodgers has never won a thing. As I've said, I've lost a ton of respect for Favre and the way he conducts himself. That doesn't change the fact that the Packers are a MUCH more viable team in 2008 with Brett Favre under center than they are with Rodgers!

John from Boston

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:14 am**

YoungJRNY wrote:John your not going to believe this but..I AGREE!! ( )

I always convert you young, midguided thinkers :lol:

John from Boston

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:19 am**

lights1961 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:What does all of this say about the Packer organization? They are willing to pay Favre MORE to stay retired, than they would to pay him to play the game. Getting to this point is laughable. The WHOLE Packer organization is SO concerned about Favre, than they are losing track of their own team. I hope Favre goes within' the division and embarrasses these guys. Whatever the case may be, we all know the ratings will be through the roof if Favre goes and sides somewhere else in the North. Could you imagine #4 in a Viking uniform? Monday Night Football Kickoff.. PACKERS VS VIKINGS. MMM-mm-MM MM mm! Tasty.

count me in as one of those who hopes he gets turf toe at that crap the metrodome and is out for the year... or AJ HAWK in the first games cracks his knees... that would be fitting and ironic. 253 games and no misses... one and done with the vikings...

Rick

They need to send him to training camp in Hawaii, than when his hip goes out on him the fans can blame Neal.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:04 am**

NealIsGod wrote:
Saint John wrote:They should offer him 30 million to put a shotgun in his mouth and pull the trigger. I'm fuckin' tired of this asshole and the circus he's created.

I'll pitch in a sawbuck.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:07 am**

Hot new rumor from a guy in the know. Favre to the Bears!!! I'm rethinking my position if the 2 sides can come to an agreement. Just do it quickly.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:47 am**

Saint John wrote:Hot new rumor from a guy in the know. Favre to the Bears!!! I'm rethinking my position if the 2 sides can come to an agreement. Just do it quickly.

A high possibility. It just keeps getting better.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:50 am**

Saint John wrote:Hot new rumor from a guy in the know. Favre to the Bears!!! I'm rethinking my position if the 2 sides can come to an agreement. Just do it quickly.

C'mon dude stick with the Cobain position!

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:59 am**

RedWingFan wrote:
Saint John wrote:Hot new rumor from a guy in the know. Favre to the Bears!!! I'm rethinking my position if the 2 sides can come to an agreement. Just do it quickly.

C'mon dude stick with the Cobain position!

I don't know, bro. I'd rather see him in a Bears uniform going 8-8 on the year than on ESPN Classic perpetually for the next 6 months. The Cobain position, while a short-term solution, could be more painful in the longrun then being Kirstie Allie's bicycle seat.

Posted: **Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:08 am**

Favre is the toughest QB in the history of the NFL. The guy would have to get shot in the knees to not play - you think turf toe would keep him off the field?

MR

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