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OT: Compliments to President Bush...Hurricane Gustav

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:18 am
by Enigma869
Even though it pains me, I must give Bush and FEMA credit for finally not being asleep at the switch. It looks like the evacuation from New Orleans is really being handled well. It doesn't make up for the debacle of three years ago, as it was the worst handled domestic issue I've seen in my lifetime. That said, the administration should at least be given credit for learning from their copious mistakes, last time around. Now if I could only get "You're doing a great job, Brownie", out of my mind...life would be good :shock:


John from Boston

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:19 am
by Michigan Girl
We have better leadership here(LA), as well!!!! :wink:

Re: OT: Compliments to President Bush...Hurricane Gustav

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:24 am
by Rick
Enigma869 wrote:Even though it pains me, I must give Bush and FEMA credit for finally not being asleep at the switch. It looks like the evacuation from New Orleans is really being handled well. It doesn't make up for the debacle of three years ago, as it was the worst handled domestic issue I've seen in my lifetime. That said, the administration should at least be given credit for learning from their copious mistakes, last time around. Now if I could only get "You're doing a great job, Brownie", out of my mind...life would be good :shock:


John from Boston


American Airlines has sent many crews from DFW to New Orleans to tend to the normal airport operations, while the locals get everything shored up, and will fly all back to DFW before the storm hits.

I've worked for AA for 25 years in October, and this is the best proactive approach I've seen from this company, and I'm particularly proud.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:32 am
by Don
Isn't that the same mayor they had before? Just saw him talking about all the faith he has in the new modified levees.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:34 am
by Michigan Girl
Gunbot wrote:Isn't that the same mayor they had before? Just saw him talking about all the faith he has in the new modified levees.


YES Mayor :evil: ~ NEW GOV. :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:38 am
by weatherman90
Michigan Girl wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Isn't that the same mayor they had before? Just saw him talking about all the faith he has in the new modified levees.


YES Mayor :evil: ~ NEW GOV. :wink:


Can't believe Ray Nagin got re-elected. That guy shouldn't be allowed to clean floors let alone run a city.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:42 am
by Michigan Girl
weatherman90 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Isn't that the same mayor they had before? Just saw him talking about all the faith he has in the new modified levees.


YES Mayor :evil: ~ NEW GOV. :wink:


Can't believe Ray Nagin got re-elected. That guy shouldn't be allowed to clean floors let alone run a city.

Make no mistake Bobby Jindal is running the show and doing a fabulous job!!!! :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:58 am
by AlteredDNA
Michigan Girl wrote:
weatherman90 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Isn't that the same mayor they had before? Just saw him talking about all the faith he has in the new modified levees.


YES Mayor :evil: ~ NEW GOV. :wink:


Can't believe Ray Nagin got re-elected. That guy shouldn't be allowed to clean floors let alone run a city.

Make no mistake Bobby Jindal is running the show and doing a fabulous job!!!! :wink:


+1

Nagin has NOTHING to do with it this go round, despite what he might say...

It's going to be a rough ride here in BR, but we're prepared...

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:03 pm
by Barb
Having a competent governor is helping big time this time around. Bobby Jindal is great. The previous governor refused federal help until it was way too late.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:45 pm
by LazzMan
Barb wrote:Having a competent governor is helping big time this time around. Bobby Jindal is great. The previous governor refused federal help until it was way too late.


That was part of the problem that never got touched 3 years ago. Instead, it was all Bush's fault. In fact, the ultra-liberals (you know, the ones that still think 9/11 was an inside job and Bush was behind it) actually said at the time that Bush, by not signing some tree-hugging bill for the reduction in global warming, was to blame for the severity of Katrina. Can you believe that? They actually suggested that if he would have signed this bill, then our GHG emissions would have been less and, instead on Katrina being a Cat. 4/5 storm it would have been a 2/3 and, therefore, not as severe.

I agree on the governor. BJ seems great and the other looked like an idiot. And that Nagin...this guy is certifiably insane. Seriously. They still haven't cleaned a lot of that mess up. There are entire, big neighborhoods that have been just completely abandoned and the fallen down buildings and wreckage are just being left to rot. He says that they are still "waitin' on Bush" for the government to come and clean it up. Jesus. Take some responsibility and ownership and do it yourselves. How can they sustain as a community with this type of laziness and sense of entitlement? People still living in temp housing, government-paid for hotels, etc. My god people pull yourselves up and do something for yourselves.

These are general statements, of course. I do know that a lot of work has been done down there. But, overall, those people take their queues from their leader (Nagin) and if he's calling for handouts, that's what folks will expect.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:48 pm
by scarygirl
This country can't handle another Katrina or immigration for that matter. I say don't give them a dime.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:56 pm
by weatherman90
Michigan Girl wrote:
weatherman90 wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Isn't that the same mayor they had before? Just saw him talking about all the faith he has in the new modified levees.


YES Mayor :evil: ~ NEW GOV. :wink:


Can't believe Ray Nagin got re-elected. That guy shouldn't be allowed to clean floors let alone run a city.

Make no mistake Bobby Jindal is running the show and doing a fabulous job!!!! :wink:


That's great news. I think Jindal has a bright future but I'm glad he didn't get picked for VP this time around - he needs to finish a couple terms as Governor and then it'll be his turn.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:05 pm
by Saint John
It was handled well the first time. The people failed.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:07 pm
by Rick
Saint John wrote:It was handled well the first time. The people failed.


There's a lot of truth to that statement, sadly. I got to see some first hand aftermath and it was nothing less than heartbreaking and horrible.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:18 pm
by donnaplease
Barb wrote:Having a competent governor is helping big time this time around. Bobby Jindal is great. The previous governor refused federal help until it was way too late.


I've been very impressed by what I've seen of him on TV. Most of all, he seems like a likeable, trustworthy man. :)

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:19 pm
by donnaplease
Rick wrote:
Saint John wrote:It was handled well the first time. The people failed.


There's a lot of truth to that statement, sadly. I got to see some first hand aftermath and it was nothing less than heartbreaking and horrible.


George Bush doesn't care about black people.

- Kanye West

:roll:

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:28 pm
by nutz4Neal
Rick wrote:
Saint John wrote:It was handled well the first time. The people failed.


There's a lot of truth to that statement, sadly. I got to see some first hand aftermath and it was nothing less than heartbreaking and horrible.



I had a friend who lost her home and business to Katrina. She & her friends truly believe the devastation of her city & personal losses were due to the local govt.

They have total hope and trust in Bobby Jindal.

Really doesn't matter now who was at fault before..prayers and thoughts going out to Newalins.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:30 pm
by Michigan Girl
nutz4Neal wrote:
Rick wrote:
Saint John wrote:It was handled well the first time. The people failed.


There's a lot of truth to that statement, sadly. I got to see some first hand aftermath and it was nothing less than heartbreaking and horrible.



I had a friend who lost her home and business with Katrina. She & her friends truly believes the devastation of her city & personal losses were due to the local govt.

The have total hope and trust in Bobby Jindal.

Really doesn't matter now who was at fault before..prayers and thoughts going out to Newalins.


She's correct....and so are you!!!! :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:41 pm
by 7 Wishes
Saint John wrote:It was handled well the first time. The people failed.


No, it wasn't handled well AT ALL - my best friend lived in New Orleans back then. But yes, the people in charge did fail. The Bush Administration had no blame whatsoever for the immediate aftermath. It's what a sad state the city was in three years later that he shares the blame for.

I'm pretty sure that if it had been Greenwich, Connecticut, that there would have been much more expedience in helping out the victims.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:58 pm
by Uno_up
The human I hate the most=Michael Moore!!!

Louisiana Rep. Steve Scalise is calling on liberal filmmaker Michael Moore to apologize after he said Friday that the timing of Hurricane Gustav is “proof that there is a God in heaven,” since the storm approaching the Gulf Coast could disrupt next week’s Republican National Convention. “I was just thinking, this Gustav is proof that there is a God in heaven,” Moore said. “To just have it planned at the same time, that it would actually be on its way to New Orleans for Day One of the Republican convention, up in the Twin Cities, at the top of the Mississippi River.”


I would love to beat on that motherfucker!!

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:00 pm
by 7 Wishes
That's a pretty indefensible statement.

He is no more over the top than the guys you fawn over - Limbaugh, Hannity, and Becj.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:27 pm
by Uno_up
7 Wishes wrote:That's a pretty indefensible statement.

He is no more over the top than the guys you fawn over - Limbaugh, Hannity, and Becj.


As is yours to assume I fawn over the three aforementioned. I have never referenced any of these guys in any of my posts. EVER!
Getting your panties in a knot over Micheal Moore? Sweet Jesus! :roll:

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:43 pm
by stevew2
"Way to go browney" remember that? Bush had his nuts in his mouth

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:14 pm
by classicstyxfan
In one way, its a good thing this happened this year instead of next, especially if Obama wins the election, as we all know, He is NOT READY TO LEAD ! Heck, if he were in charge during such a situation, New Orleans would probably sink to the center of the Earth due to his mismanagement of the situation !!!!!

You know, maybe we SHOULD let GWB have that 3rd term....after 8 years he IS ready to lead as demonstrated by the Federal Governments proactivity now. It looks like he is just now hitting his stride. :roll:


Seriously though, Lets all hope and pray the Gustav proves to be much less devatating than some are predicting now...

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:37 pm
by Enigma869
Saint John wrote:It was handled well the first time. The people failed.



You're out of your flippin' mind, dude! It wasn't handled at all, let alone "well"! To say it was handled "well" makes it look like you live under a rock! Saying "the people failed" is so short-sighted, and shows that you have absolutely zero clue about the demographics of New Orleans. Just because you have the ability to pack your family into your car or SUV and drive to higher ground, doesn't mean everyone else is in that same position. The reality is that in an economically depressed city like New Orleans, most of the people simply don't have the means to get themselves out of there. A motor vehicle is a luxury, that many simply cannot afford!

I am certainly not defending any idiot who refuses to evacuate, because I truly feel like these people get what they deserve. I am referring to the people who wanted out (and there were MANY), but had no way to get out. There are ENDLESS buses getting people out of that area that absolutely, positively weren't there last time, and according to the news, it's almost all FEMA related. Not only are there buses getting people out of New Orleans, but there are actually buses going through every neighborhood to get people to the bus terminal so they can evacuate. NONE of this happened "the first time". It was a fucking disaster the way it was handled last time, by the Governor of Lousiana, the Mayor of New Orleans, and the President of the United States. Anyone who ruly feels otherwise needs to go get their brain cells re-connected! People REALLY need to get politics off their mind and stop blindly following politicians, no matter what they do. Adults worshipping politicians makes as much sense as little Johnny worshipping professional athletes, who they think can do no wrong! Wrong is wrong...even if it's the candidate who you think is the greatest who fucked up.


John from Boston

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:37 pm
by LazzMan
classicstyxfan wrote:In one way, its a good thing this happened this year instead of next, especially if Obama wins the election, as we all know, He is NOT READY TO LEAD ! Heck, if he were in charge during such a situation, New Orleans would probably sink to the center of the Earth due to his mismanagement of the situation !!!!!

You know, maybe we SHOULD let GWB have that 3rd term....after 8 years he IS ready to lead as demonstrated by the Federal Governments proactivity now. It looks like he is just now hitting his stride. :roll:


Seriously though, Lets all hope and pray the Gustav proves to be much less devatating than some are predicting now...


I disagree. Didn't you see his speech the other night? He's going to take us to the highest mountaintops and cross the widest oceans. He's going to give us a reason to live again and take back our country from the rule of the evil Republican empire. This will be the time, years from now, where we will be able to look at our grandchildren and say that all hope and love had been restored after 8 years of conservative tyranny. There will be no more war, no more hate, no more pain, no more class system. We will all finally be one nation realizing our dreams together.

The image that comes to mind for me is the last scene from Star Wars - Return of the Jedi when, after the Empire was destroyed, all of the rebels and Ewoks were singing and dancing with fireworks and glorious celebration.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:48 pm
by Allied Forces
No one could have really expected the tragedy of Katrina. EVERYONE was caught off guard. To put it all on your president is assinine. Slow to respond, I guess, but the governor of Louisiana is very much to blame as well. Hopefully the current storm will spare those citizens there.

Also, it the idiots that remained during Katrina behaved awfully at the Superdome. Instead of people helping people, they behaved like animals.

Saint John wrote:It was handled well the first time. The people failed.


The people DID fail.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:51 pm
by texafana
"Isn't that the same mayor they had before? Just saw him talking about all the faith he has in the new modified levees."

He's also one of the main reasons for the bs the first time around. If anyone should have been prepared, it was the Mayor of the frickin city. They had years to prepare, they did nothing. Hey...if you're going to live in a bowl, chances are it's going to get a little wet once in a while.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:54 pm
by LazzMan
Uno_up wrote:The human I hate the most=Michael Moore!!!

Louisiana Rep. Steve Scalise is calling on liberal filmmaker Michael Moore to apologize after he said Friday that the timing of Hurricane Gustav is “proof that there is a God in heaven,” since the storm approaching the Gulf Coast could disrupt next week’s Republican National Convention. “I was just thinking, this Gustav is proof that there is a God in heaven,” Moore said. “To just have it planned at the same time, that it would actually be on its way to New Orleans for Day One of the Republican convention, up in the Twin Cities, at the top of the Mississippi River.”


I would love to beat on that motherfucker!!


There's a few others too. Like Keith Olbermann, Rosie O'Donnell and the rest of these poisonous people that think 9/11 was planned by the Bush administration. I get that people can express their opinions on whatever they want...that's cool. But, these people are just poisonous, hateful people are just bad for America. To be fair, there are crazy "Right-Wingers" too like the late Jerry Falwell and they have strong opinions. They are just nowhere near as hateful as those wild liberals.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:56 pm
by LazzMan
Allied Forces wrote:No one could have really expected the tragedy of Katrina. EVERYONE was caught off guard. To put it all on your president is assinine. Slow to respond, I guess, but the governor of Louisiana is very much to blame as well. Hopefully the current storm will spare those citizens there.

Also, it the idiots that remained during Katrina behaved awfully at the Superdome. Instead of people helping people, they behaved like animals.

Saint John wrote:It was handled well the first time. The people failed.


The people DID fail.


They were just fighting to survive. When you have no leadership whatsoever, you do what you have to.