MR

I believe this is what was said


“You can put lipstick on a pig,” he said as the crowd cheered. “It’s still a pig.”

“You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It’s still gonna stink.”

“We’ve had enough of the same old thing.”

Fact Finder wrote:you are correct...and the fish remark is out of line as well.

What an idiot.

You really want 4 more of the past 8? Scary. It's like a bad sequel.

A very dumb comment to make, on the part of Obama. I'm surprised at how many (quite frankly) stupid comments he has made since the GOP convention. If he's trying to erase the generally favorable impression voters have of him, he seems to be on the road to doing just that.

Very, very dumb politics, in my opinion .... and I think it'll backfire badly for Obama.

StyxCollector wrote:

Fact Finder wrote:you are correct...and the fish remark is out of line as well.

What an idiot.

You really want 4 more of the past 8? Scary. It's like a bad sequel.

Please...keep running against George Bush...he isn't in the race, so it expends the liberal resources. John McCain is about as much like George Bush as YOU are.

RossValoryRocks wrote:Please...keep running against George Bush...he isn't in the race, so it expends the liberal resources. John McCain is about as much like George Bush as YOU are.

If this was maverick McCain of about 10 years ago, it'd be one thing. I don't know what happened to that guy. I've listened to what he has to say and I don't hear change. I hear more of the same.

StyxCollector wrote:

RossValoryRocks wrote:Please...keep running against George Bush...he isn't in the race, so it expends the liberal resources. John McCain is about as much like George Bush as YOU are.

If this was maverick McCain of about 10 years ago, it'd be one thing. I don't know what happened to that guy. I've listened to what he has to say and I don't hear change. I hear more of the same.

Really???

Just one HUGE difference, others will fill the rest in I am sure. So here it is:

McCain: We need to address global warming.
Bush: What global warming?

He didn't F up unless the media says he did. And so far, the media has made nothing of this. Don't expect them to, with the exception of Fox News Channel.

Onestepper wrote:He didn't F up unless the media says he did. And so far, the media has made nothing of this. Don't expect them to, with the exception of Fox News Channel.

The media is facing such a huge backlash right now because of their treatment of Sarah Palin that they might just start running some of these stories.

Soccer/Hockey/Security moms are not REAL HAPPY about what the media has done to Sarah Palin.

Fact Finder wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPd4yk0x-eg

If I get Rick Rolled when I click this, you've had it!

RossValoryRocks wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:

RossValoryRocks wrote:Please...keep running against George Bush...he isn't in the race, so it expends the liberal resources. John McCain is about as much like George Bush as YOU are.

If this was maverick McCain of about 10 years ago, it'd be one thing. I don't know what happened to that guy. I've listened to what he has to say and I don't hear change. I hear more of the same.

Really???

Just one HUGE difference, others will fill the rest in I am sure. So here it is:

McCain: We need to address global warming.
Bush: What global warming?

Overall, he's towing the party line. At this point, you can't ignore global warming whether you think it's the natural cycle of the Earth or accelerated by man.

Each candidate is going to have to address global warming, the energy crisis, and health care whether they like it or not.

Wow. What a cheap shot. Get em' Sarah!

Barb wrote:Wow. What a cheap shot. Get em' Sarah!

HA! You think that is cheap go read what that idiot 7Wishes said in this thread at the bottom of the page: http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... &start=120

Fact Finder wrote:

Barb wrote:Wow. What a cheap shot. Get em' Sarah!

Wonder what it is that's got the Dems so up in arms over Sarah. Gosh they seem testy lately. She's not running for President.

I hope they keep hammering at her. It will do NOTHING but cost them votes and ultimately the election. Same thing with going after President Bush.

"NO....Saracudaaaaaaaaaaaah!"

...oh, and no RepubliCAN'Ts

TRAGChick wrote:"NO....Saracudaaaaaaaaaaaah!"

...oh, and no RepubliCANT'S

Better than Demo-scats ( you do know what scat is right?)

Or Demo-cun, uhhh...you can figure it out...

Maybe Gov. Palin would like to GIVE BACK the $300 MILLION "Bridge to Nowhere" money she kept... after she turned down the bridge....

Barb wrote:Wow. What a cheap shot. Get em' Sarah!

This one pales in comparison to the politically self-indulgent and masturbatory bullshit right-wing blog rumours you routinely perpetuate here, Barb. Welcome to the other side of the fence. Shit stinks over here, too.

StyxCollector wrote:

RossValoryRocks wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:

RossValoryRocks wrote:Please...keep running against George Bush...he isn't in the race, so it expends the liberal resources. John McCain is about as much like George Bush as YOU are.

If this was maverick McCain of about 10 years ago, it'd be one thing. I don't know what happened to that guy. I've listened to what he has to say and I don't hear change. I hear more of the same.

Really???

Just one HUGE difference, others will fill the rest in I am sure. So here it is:

McCain: We need to address global warming.
Bush: What global warming?

Overall, he's towing the party line. At this point, you can't ignore global warming whether you think it's the natural cycle of the Earth or accelerated by man.

Each candidate is going to have to address global warming, the energy crisis, and health care whether they like it or not.

Except that the new Farmers Almanac just came out and said we are in for several years, if not decades of global cooling. A group of 20,000 physicists said the same, as have two research projects in Canada. It's hype. You know how I know - because I grew up in the decade where global cooling was the scare. I'm an independent, which means I don't have a dog in any of these races. I can see the BS that spills from both sides. Why do you think the term has changed from Global Warming to Climate Crisis? It's not warming any longer.

The Sun is 333,000 times bigger than earth and we are in its playground. The Moon moves farther and farther away each year, causing us to very slowly slow down. To think what we drive is going to affect us by a degree when the sun has kept us up and down by several degrees is just plain nuts. I know it’s all the rage, but there are too many recent studies to say we are headed into a cooling period. I was all about worrying about Global Warming at first, but I see it for what it is now.

7 Wishes wrote:

Barb wrote:Wow. What a cheap shot. Get em' Sarah!

This one pales in comparison to the politically self-indulgent and masturbatory bullshit right-wing blog rumours you routinely perpetuate here, Barb. Welcome to the other side of the fence. Shit stinks over here, too.

You are really getting on my nerves. The only thing I've posted from a right leaning source in recent memory is the dispute of the AP (Obama Campaign's) FACT CHECK on Palin.

What rumors have I posted here?

TO: The Obama Campaign
FR: Separate_Wayz (a friend)
DT: Tuesday, September 9, 2008
RE: the pig comment

Today you made a comment on the campaign trail that "you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."

Ummmm. We need to talk. Now.

There is a serious concern among the American people at the moment: we're concerned that you sound more desperate with each passing day. Today's "pig comment" is 'Exhibit A'.

Your comment suggesting that Palin is a pig (and, yes, that is what you meant, and how it was interpreted) is unlikely to help with your recent polling problems. And they are big problems.

According to Gallup (the most reputable polling firm for presidential elections), John McCain and Sarah Palin have opened up a 15-point lead over you among independents. McCain now gets 52% of independents. You get 37%. Ouch.

What's worse (for you), you've sounded weirdly misogynistic in the last few weeks. First, you spurned Hillary Clinton's hope to be your running mate. Then you badmouthed Sarah Palin as being "unqualified" (even though she has credentials no worse than yours). Then your campaign minions called into question Sarah Palin's ability to be a good mother, Sarah Palin's ability to raise her children (re: her daughter's pregnancy), and Sarah Palin's choice to have her baby, rather than have an abortion.

Now you call her "a pig" (and, again, yes -- that is what you meant).

I'm not sure if you've figured this out in your personal life, but women generally hate to be compared to barnyard animals. (Might want to jot this one down.) And worse (for you): women tend to band together against men who call one of their own "fat" or "a pig". (I've learned this one the hard way, my friend. Ask one of many current or former members of multiple social sororities in the Great Lakes tri-state area.)

Oh, and that Gallup poll again: you've lost ground among not only men, but women too. Ten days ago, your opponent, John McCain was getting 42% of women in that poll. Now it's 46%. Ouch. At this rate, you're going to lose a majority of men and women by election day. Men and women. There's not much in between -- just some hermaphrodites and trannies with their meats-and-two-veggies duct-taped back under. And, yes, after watching the Democratic Convention, I can safely say that you've secured their vote. But if that's all you're going to win, it's going to be a very, very lonely November, my friend.

My campaign advice for the next 56 days: stop the stupid personal attacks. They're beneath you. What excited people about your candidacy early on was the possibility that you'd be the first "post-racial" candidate, that you'd be a president who could unite the country across party lines and racial lines. Americans were cautiously optimistic that you'd be a Democrat who could transcend his party's notoriously beholden interests and make Americans feel good about being Americans again. Americans are radical optimists, in the best sense. Calling people "pigs" does not tap into that wellspring of good humanity.

If you want to talk further with me about your strategy, don't hesitate to call me this weekend. I'll be at one of several Delta Gamma houses in the mid-Atlantic region.

How can you say there is no global warming, unless you haven't seen 'An Inconvenient Truth'.....the speed at which the polar caps are melting is ASTRONOMICAL.

Because it's "inconvenient" and would actually require them to THINK and CHANGE.

7 Wishes wrote:Because it's "inconvenient" and would actually require them to THINK and CHANGE.

You do know that many parts of that movie have been disproven, right? You do know that some of the footage he used was actually from the movie "Day After Tomorrow". ya, that's a rock solid documentary there.

7 Wishes wrote:Because it's "inconvenient" and would actually require them to THINK and CHANGE.

I don't have to "do" anything but grow older and die.

I do think...far more than you...

I don't need to change...I like me and what I believe just fine. Most people here find YOU abhorent though...so maybe it is you who should "THINK" and "CHANGE".

Fact Finder wrote:

Americans are radical optimists, in the best sense. Calling people "pigs" does not tap into that wellspring of good humanity.

Actually is does....watch the news tomorrow..this will not go unpunished..a certain wellsping of humanity known as WOMEN has just been tapped. For the good of humanity.

God I can't belive Barry was such a fool.

He's under pressure, and he's cracking. Not leadership material.

Fact Finder wrote:

Americans are radical optimists, in the best sense. Calling people "pigs" does not tap into that wellspring of good humanity.

Actually is does....watch the news tomorrow..this will not go unpunished..a certain wellsping of humanity known as WOMEN has just been tapped. For the good of humanity.

God I can't belive Barry was such a fool.

No teleprompter = bad things for Obama. He is VERY eloquent when he has prepared remarks...off of them he is in BIG trouble.

RossValoryRocks wrote:

TRAGChick wrote:"NO....Saracudaaaaaaaaaaaah!"

...oh, and no RepubliCANT'S

Better than Demo-scats ( you do know what scat is right?)

Or Demo-cun, uhhh...you can figure it out...

How about what my kids say:

Re-poop-licans
Demo-craps

I was stunned when I heard that comment on the radio this morning. Un-fucking-believable.

Another thing I heard today was that Sarah Palin's jab at BO regarding him being a 'community organizer' was a RACIST remark. HUH....? Say what??? OK, she was sarcastic, and perhaps a little bitchy, but racist? There is NO way that anyone should glean racism from that comment, and any attempt to do so is just trying to make something out of nothing. Hey dumbass, people of all colors and races live in rural AND urban areas. Trust me, I know. I've lived in both.

Both sides have their faults, but this shit is getting ridiculous.

Memorex wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:

RossValoryRocks wrote:

StyxCollector wrote:

RossValoryRocks wrote:Please...keep running against George Bush...he isn't in the race, so it expends the liberal resources. John McCain is about as much like George Bush as YOU are.

If this was maverick McCain of about 10 years ago, it'd be one thing. I don't know what happened to that guy. I've listened to what he has to say and I don't hear change. I hear more of the same.

Really???

Just one HUGE difference, others will fill the rest in I am sure. So here it is:

McCain: We need to address global warming.
Bush: What global warming?

Overall, he's towing the party line. At this point, you can't ignore global warming whether you think it's the natural cycle of the Earth or accelerated by man.

Each candidate is going to have to address global warming, the energy crisis, and health care whether they like it or not.

Except that the new Farmers Almanac just came out and said we are in for several years, if not decades of global cooling. A group of 20,000 physicists said the same, as have two research projects in Canada. It's hype. You know how I know - because I grew up in the decade where global cooling was the scare. I'm an independent, which means I don't have a dog in any of these races. I can see the BS that spills from both sides. Why do you think the term has changed from Global Warming to Climate Crisis? It's not warming any longer.

The Sun is 333,000 times bigger than earth and we are in its playground. The Moon moves farther and farther away each year, causing us to very slowly slow down. To think what we drive is going to affect us by a degree when the sun has kept us up and down by several degrees is just plain nuts. I know it’s all the rage, but there are too many recent studies to say we are headed into a cooling period. I was all about worrying about Global Warming at first, but I see it for what it is now.

The articles you people have posted about "global cooling" have complete and utter bullshit. I have not read a single article posted about this on this forum that has ANY credibility whatsoever.

RossValoryRocks wrote:

7 Wishes wrote:Because it's "inconvenient" and would actually require them to THINK and CHANGE.

I don't have to "do" anything but grow older and die.

You can always try freezing yourself.

Hey, it worked for Cartman and Buck Rogers...go for it.