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OT - NFL needs to change some of it's rules.....

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:40 am
by S2M
Chargers got screwed today.....

Not that I'm a charger fan....but what's fair is fair.....that was a fumble.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:57 am
by rsimpson
It was, but once the whistle is blown, the play is dead

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:58 am
by S2M
rsimpson wrote:It was, but once the whistle is blown, the play is dead



Again, the NFL needs to change the rule....

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:03 am
by conversationpc
StocktontoMalone wrote:
rsimpson wrote:It was, but once the whistle is blown, the play is dead



Again, the NFL needs to change the rule....


They can't change that one, really. Once the whistle is blown, the play is dead regardless of what happens. The referees just need to not be so quick with the whistle sometimes.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:48 am
by Enigma869
I'm with Dave on this one. There really isn't much you can do about the whistle being blown. No rule you could implement would prevent all the players from stopping, once the whistle was blown. It was absolutely, positively a fumble, but again, no rule would have reversed that call. If Ed Hoculi didn't blow his whistle, it would have been ruled a fumble. Kudos to Shanahan for showing stones of an ox, by going for the 2 point conversion and the win, rather than going for the smart call and kicking the extra point! It was really a great game.


John from Boston

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:56 am
by S2M
Enigma869 wrote:I'm with Dave on this one. There really isn't much you can do about the whistle being blown. No rule you could implement would prevent all the players from stopping, once the whistle was blown. It was absolutely, positively a fumble, but again, no rule would have reversed that call. If Ed Hoculi didn't blow his whistle, it would have been ruled a fumble. Kudos to Shanahan for showing stones of an ox, by going for the 2 point conversion and the win, rather than going for the smart call and kicking the extra point! It was really a great game.


John from Boston


The point is....the whistle shouldn't have been blown. Just like in the Indy game....Addai's ball DID NOT break the plane. The worst policy in NFL is that the call on the field takes precedence. Which means if the call is bad, and made on the field - a bad call takes precedence....And for there to be a rule about indeisputable evidence being needed to reverse the call - indisputable evidence wasn't used to make the original call! Such BS! :evil: :lol: :evil: :lol:

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:00 am
by Don
Enigma869 wrote:I'm with Dave on this one. There really isn't much you can do about the whistle being blown. No rule you could implement would prevent all the players from stopping, once the whistle was blown. It was absolutely, positively a fumble, but again, no rule would have reversed that call. If Ed Hoculi didn't blow his whistle, it would have been ruled a fumble. Kudos to Shanahan for showing stones of an ox, by going for the 2 point conversion and the win, rather than going for the smart call and kicking the extra point! It was really a great game.


John from Boston


Shanihan said he didn't want to rely on the cointoss for overtime, but it was cool that he gave the Chargers another chance to win the game in regulation despite the ref's faux pas. The refs have been slower on their whistles when it comes to fumbles but they clearly thought that was an incomplete pass.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:03 am
by Enigma869
StocktontoMalone wrote:The point is....the whistle shouldn't have been blown. Just like in the Indy game....Addai's ball DID NOT break the plane. The worst policy in NFL is that the call on the field takes precedence. Which means if the call is bad, and made on the field - a bad call takes precedence....And for there to be a rule about indeisputable evidence being needed to reverse the call - indisputable evidence wasn't used to make the original call! Such BS! :evil: :lol: :evil: :lol:


Dude...I understand the point! My point is that you can't unblow a whistle! Every football player, from Pop Warner on, is taught to play to the whistle. Once an official blows that whistle, the play is over, and everything that happens after that whistle simply doesn't countl. The officials are human and do fuck up. Hoculi clearly screwed up the play and cost the Chargers a victory! I don't have any doubt that if the NFL had a solution to correct situations like this...they would have already done it. There simply isn't a solution, when human error is involved!

As for the Addai play, I have ZERO explanation for that. I didn't think he broke the plane, while watching the play live. After watching the replay, it was VERY clear that he didn't break the plane. How the official watched that replay and came away saying that it was a TD is something I still don't quite comprehend! The Colts should definitely be 0-2 right now!


John from Boston

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:08 am
by Greg
StocktontoMalone wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:I'm with Dave on this one. There really isn't much you can do about the whistle being blown. No rule you could implement would prevent all the players from stopping, once the whistle was blown. It was absolutely, positively a fumble, but again, no rule would have reversed that call. If Ed Hoculi didn't blow his whistle, it would have been ruled a fumble. Kudos to Shanahan for showing stones of an ox, by going for the 2 point conversion and the win, rather than going for the smart call and kicking the extra point! It was really a great game.


John from Boston


The point is....the whistle shouldn't have been blown. Just like in the Indy game....Addai's ball DID NOT break the plane. The worst policy in NFL is that the call on the field takes precedence. Which means if the call is bad, and made on the field - a bad call takes precedence....And for there to be a rule about indeisputable evidence being needed to reverse the call - indisputable evidence wasn't used to make the original call! Such BS! :evil: :lol: :evil: :lol:


No, it shouldn't have been blown but we're all humans and the refs made a mistake. However, once the whistle is blown you can't reverse the call.

Re: OT - NFL needs to change some of it's rules.....

PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:39 am
by ttango1
StocktontoMalone wrote:Chargers got screwed today.....

Not that I'm a charger fan....but what's fair is fair.....that was a fumble.

I.m a bigtime Charger Fan but to get screwed TWICE?! is just plain wrong. :evil: