Poll: Freedom of speech and thought.

[annpea]

I, feel that it has. the rich and powerful use their money and threats of legal beatdowns from their high powered lawyers to keep the poor and working class silent whenever they feel like doing so.

[Purrkat]

I, feel that it has. the rich and powerful use their money and threats of legal beatdowns from their high powered lawyers to keep the poor and working class silent whenever they feel like doing so.

You are correct. And it has been witnessed all over the internet as well, from what I have been told, even on this board by the celebrities (and their goons) that we discuss.


Money does strange things to people...........................

As an afterthought, if ANY of these discussed "celebrities" EVER told me I couldn't say or do something, and no matter how much I admired them, I would tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine and to put on the boxing gloves.
Sorry, but nobody takes away our freedom of speech. Nobody. NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Saint John]

As long as I can continue to tell people to "Fuck Off!!!" on Melodicrock I'm content.

[Purrkat]

As long as I can continue to tell people to "Fuck Off!!!" on Melodicrock I'm content.

[bluejeangirl76]

You are correct. And it has been witnessed all over the internet as well, from what I have been told, even on this board by the celebrities (and their goons) that we discuss.

Money does strange things to people...........................

'Goons' is a pretty unfair term after what went on in that thread.
Was that not her right to freedom of speech opinion as much as it was yours?

Playing devil's advocate here, nothing more.

[Rhiannon]

People are too damn sensitive anymore. Fly off the handle at one little comment... or take what other people say too serious or literal.
Not to mention all the PC bullshit.

[cyndy!]

Sorry, but nobody takes away our freedom of speech. Nobody. Hear that SP?

did SP punch your cat & tell you to shut up at some point in your life to cause such bitterness?

[DrFU]

By "our" I assume that means U.S., and, if so, no. Constitutional freedom of speech guarantees apply only to government sensorship of speech in public spaces; I think we continue to have an amazing amount of freedom to call our elected officials morons and to call them out on their behavior.

Dogmatic behavior by individuals in privately funded spaces such as message boards is a whole different thing. Some folks are just cranky.

[stevew2]

As long as I can make fun of Friga and Titos gayness, Im a proud American

[DrFU]

As long as I can make fun of Friga and Titos gayness, Im a proud American

... and other folks are obsessed by cranks

[bluejeangirl76]

Sorry, but nobody takes away our freedom of speech. Nobody. Hear that SP?

did SP punch your cat & tell you to shut up at some point in your life to cause such bitterness?

"Hear that SP?" Dude... what? Now SP is at fault for loss of freedom of speech, too?

That has to be one if the dumbest things I've read here in awhile. Did she seriously just blame Perry because she got told something here that she didn't like?

[strangegrey]

People are too damn sensitive anymore. Fly off the handle at one little comment... or take what other people say too serious or literal.
Not to mention all the PC bullshit.

I think that's more the case.

While I don't think, in civil terms, we've lost our freedom to speech...what has happened, is that sensitivity has bubbled to rediculous levels, which has created a dreadfully low threshold for discussions that may be offensive or offputting to a minority.


Back 20 years ago, you could say anything and very little could be labeled as 'not apropriate to say.' These days, that list is so much larger, that people are forced to watch what they say in all walks....

My father was 100% right about PC. He labelled it a type of speech-control. It's a subtractive way to limit the freedom of speech, without actually lowering the threshold at the civil level.

[annpea]

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quote="Saint John"]As long as I can continue to tell people to "Fuck Off!!!" on Melodicrock I'm content.

[/quote] I, sure you can; did someone upset you sweetheart?

[Purrkat]

Sorry, but nobody takes away our freedom of speech. Nobody. Hear that SP?

did SP punch your cat & tell you to shut up at some point in your life to cause such bitterness?

Bitterness? No. Pissed off? Yep.
I don't care how much I like his singing voice and even though he SEEMS like a nice person, he has this issue with other peoples' opinions and thinks calling his lawyer will solve everything.


If he EVER punched my cat his bell would be rung royally. Take THAT to the bank....

[annpea]

Sorry, but nobody takes away our freedom of speech. Nobody. Hear that SP?

did SP punch your cat & tell you to shut up at some point in your life to cause such bitterness?

"

Hear that SP?" Dude... what? Now SP is at fault for loss of freedom of speech, too?

That has to be one if the dumbest things I've read here in awhile. Did she seriously just blame Perry because she got told something here that she didn't like?

What hell are y'all talking about, what do this poll have to do with SP?

[bluejeangirl76]

Sorry, but nobody takes away our freedom of speech. Nobody. Hear that SP?

did SP punch your cat & tell you to shut up at some point in your life to cause such bitterness?

Bitterness? No. Pissed off? Yep.
I don't care how much I like his singing voice and even though he SEEMS like a nice person, he has this issue with other peoples' opinions and thinks calling his lawyer will solve everything.

Do you actually know the man?
How would you have any idea what he thinks about peoples' opinions (or what he thinks about anythign for that matter) or what his calls to his lawyers entail? If that were true, Andrew would have been shut down a long time ago.

[Rhiannon]

What hell are y'all talking about, what do this poll have to do with SP?

Ask Purrkat.

[Enigma869]

Bitterness? No. Pissed off? Yep.
I don't care how much I like his singing voice and even though he SEEMS like a nice person, he has this issue with other peoples' opinions and thinks calling his lawyer will solve everything.

You're an idiot! Looks like we have another Jackass Talk refugee on our hands. You haven't even been a member here for a week, and you're already stirring the shit, every chance you get. At least be a member here for a month, before telling us how much you hate Perry in every thread. Your "I really like his voice" bullshit doesn't hide your true agenda!


John from Boston

[Purrkat]

By "our" I assume that means U.S., and, if so, no. Constitutional freedom of speech guarantees apply only to government sensorship of speech in public spaces; I think we continue to have an amazing amount of freedom to call our elected officials morons and to call them out on their behavior.

Dogmatic behavior by individuals in privately funded spaces such as message boards is a whole different thing. Some folks are just cranky.

Like some famous Beatle telling your fans no more email, letters, etc. because you are tired of it? Geesh. Talk about ego. Shouldn't have gotten into the world of entertainment if it would come to that.

I don't have a lot of tolerance for egos. Sorry for being so "cranky" but trying to have fun on these message boards anymore is like drilling for oil by hand. It ain't never gonna happen.
People are living in a fantasy world.


Pansie hippy liberals....

[Purrkat]

Bitterness? No. Pissed off? Yep.
I don't care how much I like his singing voice and even though he SEEMS like a nice person, he has this issue with other peoples' opinions and thinks calling his lawyer will solve everything.

You're an idiot! Looks like we have another Jackass Talk refugee on our hands. You haven't even been a member here for a week, and you're already stirring the shit, every chance you get. At least be a member here for a month, before telling us how much you hate Perry in every thread. Your "I really like his voice" bullshit doesn't hide your true agenda!


John from Boston

BITE ME. Yeah, I have like hearing him sing, but he seems to come across lately like an asshole. Are you related?

[bluejeangirl76]

What hell are y'all talking about, what do this poll have to do with SP?

It doesn't. She edited her post. Thankfully cyndy quoted before that happened.
Read the quoted part. She seems to think Steve Perry wants her silenced, or something?

[Rhiannon]

Sorry for being so "cranky" but trying to have fun on these message boards anymore is like drilling for oil by hand.

You've been participating here for 6 days! What the fuck? Sorry you miss the "good ol' days" of last Friday...

[Purrkat]

What hell are y'all talking about, what do this poll have to do with SP?

Ask Purrkat.

Don't bother me. I am counting to ten.

[bluejeangirl76]

Sorry for being so "cranky" but trying to have fun on these message boards anymore is like drilling for oil by hand. It ain't never gonna happen.

There's a real easy solution to that.

[Enigma869]

BITE ME. Yeah, I have like hearing him sing, but he seems to come across lately like an asshole. Are you related?

Fuck you and your alien, ass ugly cat! Hopefully Drew grows tired of your act in another week or so and sends you back to Jackass Talk, where you belong!


John from Boston

[Purrkat]

Sorry for being so "cranky" but trying to have fun on these message boards anymore is like drilling for oil by hand.

You've been participating here for 6 days! What the fuck? Sorry you miss the "good ol' days" of last Friday...

What good ol days? There is such a thing?

TIme out. Let's have chocolate.
I am NOT stirring the pot. I am VOICING opinions. Isn't this what the thread was about. FREEDOM OF SPEECH?
I told you all I am opinionated. I am also patiotic as all get out. Sorry, you all forgot what it is like to be a true American.

I am also sick to death of everybody making someone else out to be this golden idol who can do no wrong and is so perfect.
Give me a break. People can be talanted as heck and still be jerks. Nothing wrong with that. Don't they call it "creative energy".

Let's talk about Cain. He doesn't seem to draw so much gunfire.

Th

[DrFU]

Pansie hippy liberals....

That's my tribe you're dissing there ...

Peace, love, and rock n' roll!

Seriously, some of the people I've enjoyed getting to know the most here are completely 180 degrees opposite of where I am politically and in musical taste. It's not what one says but the spirit in which it comes across that brings on the flames (or not).

[Purrkat]

BITE ME. Yeah, I have like hearing him sing, but he seems to come across lately like an asshole. Are you related?

Fuck you and your alien, ass ugly cat! Hopefully Drew grows tired of your act in another week or so and sends you back to Jackass Talk, where you belong!


John from Boston

I have done nothing wrong but ask questions and make opinions. What the heck is wrong with that? Like YOU don't?

And I thought PV was full of crazies. Geez. Sorry I stopped in for coffee............

[Enigma869]

What good ol days? There is such a thing?

TIme out. Let's have chocolate.
I am NOT stirring the pot. I am VOICING opinions. Isn't this what the thread was about. FREEDOM OF SPEECH?
I told you all I am opinionated. I am also patiotic as all get out. Sorry, you all forgot what it is like to be a true American.

I am also sick to death of everybody making someone else out to be this golden idol who can do no wrong and is so perfect.
Give me a break. People can be talanted as heck and still be jerks. Nothing wrong with that. Don't they call it "creative energy".

Let's talk about Cain. He doesn't seem to draw so much gunfire.

Th

Learn how to put a fucking cogent thought together and spell before you waste our time with all of your useless babbling. What a fucking jackass!


John from Boston

[Jana]

Purrkat, are you off your meds? People say things about Perry on here all the time, good and bad. Your thought process is all jumbled. You seem a little obsessed.