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I must be one of the last MR'er to watch this dvd . Anyone know whose voice it is that sings the angelic note over the instrumentals at the end of the song? Wasn't Deen because his mouth was clearly shown as closed.

annie89509 wrote:I must be one of the last MR'er to watch this dvd . Anyone know whose voice it is that sings the angelic note over the instrumentals at the end of the song? Wasn't Deen because his mouth was clearly shown as closed.

I figured it was straight off of Escape.

annie89509 wrote:I must be one of the last MR'er to watch this dvd . Anyone know whose voice it is that sings the angelic note over the instrumentals at the end of the song? Wasn't Deen because his mouth was clearly shown as closed.

Frigas keyboard cover ups {it doesnt sound like a real voice}

I had the same question as well. I guess it has to be straight from the album.

Angelic voice? Um, must be Ross.

The boys will throw a tape in in a second,you know that

It was definitely set on low -- hard to tell if it's a human voice or another instrument. Don't think they have the nerve to put SP's voice in there, would they?

annie89509 wrote:It was definitely set on low -- hard to tell if it's a human voice or another instrument. Don't think they have the nerve to put SP's voice in there, would they?

ive heard perrys and augeri s off and on,they threw it out out there.

annie89509 wrote:It was definitely set on low -- hard to tell if it's a human voice or another instrument. Don't think they have the nerve to put SP's voice in there, would they?

Could be AP on a pre-rec backtrack as well.

StoneCold wrote:

annie89509 wrote:It was definitely set on low -- hard to tell if it's a human voice or another instrument. Don't think they have the nerve to put SP's voice in there, would they?

Could be AP on a pre-rec backtrack as well.

It still sucks ass either way

At what, specifically, can we find this debated note?

annie89509 wrote:I must be one of the last MR'er to watch this dvd ...

I still haven't watched it. Don't even know exactly where it is.


later~

annie89509 wrote:Don't think they have the nerve to put SP's voice in there, would they?

I think they'd do it in two seconds if they believed they wouldn't get caught.

annie89509 wrote:It was definitely set on low -- hard to tell if it's a human voice or another instrument. Don't think they have the nerve to put SP's voice in there, would they?

You, know Annie that's a good question but i doubt if they would do somethin...... ur....... never mind.

RumTumJM wrote:At what, specifically, can we find this debated note?

It's after the final "Have faith... believe" when the band is kind of dramatically pausing as Neal hits some power chords behind the lyics. Then the drums re-enter and after a bar or so you hear "OH-WHOOOOOOOOAHHHH-OOOHHHHH-OHHHHH-OHHHHH." It's SUPER high and until I saw the Houston DVD, I ALWAYS thought it was a synth voice tone. As for who's doing it on the Revs, I'd guess it's either a synth tone or it's the sample from the album triggered by Cain.

It sounds like a keyboard tone on the Revelation DVD.

That just goes to show how amazing Perry was - he could do things with his voice that no one else could.

Ehwmatt wrote:

RumTumJM wrote:At what, specifically, can we find this debated note?

It's after the final "Have faith... believe" when the band is kind of dramatically pausing as Neal hits some power chords behind the lyics. Then the drums re-enter and after a bar or so you hear "OH-WHOOOOOOOOAHHHH-OOOHHHHH-OHHHHH-OHHHHH." It's SUPER high and until I saw the Houston DVD, I ALWAYS thought it was a synth voice tone. As for who's doing it on the Revs, I'd guess it's either a synth tone or it's the sample from the album triggered by Cain.

I just watched it,it has to be a synth tone they put in there along with there background vocals.Friga isnt playing it,so it was programmed in there.He could have played it live, its not hard,he doesnt need both hands to play the piano ,Ross can covers the bass. Whatever

stevew2 wrote: I just watched it,it has to be a synth tone they put in there along with there background vocals.Friga isnt playing it,so it was programmed in there.He could have played it live, its not hard,he doesnt need both hands to play the piano ,Ross can covers the bass. Whatever

All he'd have to do is touch a key. Sometimes they'll leave a really low bass key programmed to trigger a sample like that and then the rest is piano tones, for example. I'm sure he has to trigger it unless they're still playing to a click live.

Ehwmatt wrote:

stevew2 wrote: I just watched it,it has to be a synth tone they put in there along with there background vocals.Friga isnt playing it,so it was programmed in there.He could have played it live, its not hard,he doesnt need both hands to play the piano ,Ross can covers the bass. Whatever

All he'd have to do is touch a key. Sometimes they'll leave a really low bass key programmed to trigger a sample like that and then the rest is piano tones, for example. I'm sure he has to trigger it unless they're still playing to a click live.

They are playing to a clip live like they always have.They were everytime I saw them

stevew2 wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

stevew2 wrote: I just watched it,it has to be a synth tone they put in there along with there background vocals.Friga isnt playing it,so it was programmed in there.He could have played it live, its not hard,he doesnt need both hands to play the piano ,Ross can covers the bass. Whatever

All he'd have to do is touch a key. Sometimes they'll leave a really low bass key programmed to trigger a sample like that and then the rest is piano tones, for example. I'm sure he has to trigger it unless they're still playing to a click live.

They are playing to a clip live like they always have.They were everytime I saw them

Click tracks live are lame

Wish they'd stop doing it. Joe Walsh sometimes just goes off on an extended solo just to piss Henley/Frey off. He can't stand playing to a click. At least that's what the James Gang drummer, Jimmy Fox, has told me.

Ehwmatt wrote:

stevew2 wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

stevew2 wrote: I just watched it,it has to be a synth tone they put in there along with there background vocals.Friga isnt playing it,so it was programmed in there.He could have played it live, its not hard,he doesnt need both hands to play the piano ,Ross can covers the bass. Whatever

All he'd have to do is touch a key. Sometimes they'll leave a really low bass key programmed to trigger a sample like that and then the rest is piano tones, for example. I'm sure he has to trigger it unless they're still playing to a click live.

They are playing to a clip live like they always have.They were everytime I saw them

Click tracks live are lame

Wish they'd stop doing it. Joe Walsh sometimes just goes off on an extended solo just to piss Henley/Frey off. He can't stand playing to a click. At least that's what the James Gang drummer, Jimmy Fox, has told me.

i agree, its not that nessicary, fuck leave out some background vocals.What i noticed with Arnel and Steve Augeri, when they would try to sing Faithfully they would get out of sinc cause they were singing to fucking clock. How are suposed to sing that with feeling when you got Flaming Friga playing piano like a fucking robot.i think some of it is pure laziness

stevew2 wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

stevew2 wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

stevew2 wrote: I just watched it,it has to be a synth tone they put in there along with there background vocals.Friga isnt playing it,so it was programmed in there.He could have played it live, its not hard,he doesnt need both hands to play the piano ,Ross can covers the bass. Whatever

All he'd have to do is touch a key. Sometimes they'll leave a really low bass key programmed to trigger a sample like that and then the rest is piano tones, for example. I'm sure he has to trigger it unless they're still playing to a click live.

They are playing to a clip live like they always have.They were everytime I saw them

Click tracks live are lame

Wish they'd stop doing it. Joe Walsh sometimes just goes off on an extended solo just to piss Henley/Frey off. He can't stand playing to a click. At least that's what the James Gang drummer, Jimmy Fox, has told me.

i agree, its not that nessicary, fuck leave out some background vocals.What i noticed with Arnel and Steve Augeri, when they would try to sing Faithfully they would get out of sinc cause they were singing to fucking clock. How are suposed to sing that with feeling when you got Flaming Friga playing piano like a fucking robot.i think some of it is pure laziness

Agreed, but I also think wanting to put out a consistent sound may have a lot to do with it as well. There are not many modern day bands that can sound like Journey live during the Perry days. That includes the new J-lineup. It's laziness, but I also think it's driven, at least in this instance, from a lineup wanting to give the new guy every opportunity to sound consistently good night in and night out. I don't like them, and when I heard the MF version on the DVD, it was my first thought that a click track was being used. I guess I've just become accustomed to it these days, which sucks.

Onestepper wrote:

stevew2 wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

stevew2 wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

stevew2 wrote: I just watched it,it has to be a synth tone they put in there along with there background vocals.Friga isnt playing it,so it was programmed in there.He could have played it live, its not hard,he doesnt need both hands to play the piano ,Ross can covers the bass. Whatever

All he'd have to do is touch a key. Sometimes they'll leave a really low bass key programmed to trigger a sample like that and then the rest is piano tones, for example. I'm sure he has to trigger it unless they're still playing to a click live.

They are playing to a clip live like they always have.They were everytime I saw them

Click tracks live are lame

Wish they'd stop doing it. Joe Walsh sometimes just goes off on an extended solo just to piss Henley/Frey off. He can't stand playing to a click. At least that's what the James Gang drummer, Jimmy Fox, has told me.

i agree, its not that nessicary, fuck leave out some background vocals.What i noticed with Arnel and Steve Augeri, when they would try to sing Faithfully they would get out of sinc cause they were singing to fucking clock. How are suposed to sing that with feeling when you got Flaming Friga playing piano like a fucking robot.i think some of it is pure laziness

Agreed, but I also think wanting to put out a consistent sound may have a lot to do with it as well. There are not many modern day bands that can sound like Journey live during the Perry days. That includes the new J-lineup. It's laziness, but I also think it's driven, at least in this instance, from a lineup wanting to give the new guy every opportunity to sound consistently good night in and night out. I don't like them, and when I heard the MF version on the DVD, it was my first thought that a click track was being used. I guess I've just become accustomed to it these days, which sucks.

They have always done it. they wernt doing it for Arnel. Frontiers does it live,and they sound like Journey during the Perry days. they might be lacking a background vocal here and there,but id rather here everything live, his vocals cover any ]lacking in a background vocal here and there. Journeys taped background vocals annoys the the fuck out of me. If it werent for Arnels vocals, id most of the time at the beer wagon

Onestepper wrote:
Agreed, but I also think wanting to put out a consistent sound may have a lot to do with it as well. There are not many modern day bands that can sound like Journey live during the Perry days. That includes the new J-lineup. It's laziness, but I also think it's driven, at least in this instance, from a lineup wanting to give the new guy every opportunity to sound consistently good night in and night out. I don't like them, and when I heard the MF version on the DVD, it was my first thought that a click track was being used. I guess I've just become accustomed to it these days, which sucks.

These guys are pro musicians all on top of their craft. Deen can certainly hold down any tempo consistently. It's all about syncing it up to the backing vocals as steve has pointed out. At least for Journey. They were a much looser band back in the day.

Now, take another famous live click user, The Eagles, and their use of one comes from the intense desire to have everything sound just like the album. Even back in the day they were noted (and sometimes slammed) for it.

I'd rather hear these guys play like they're sittin around jammin. They're all good enough to sound great shooting from the hip.

Clicktrack, introduced by Mr. Perry of course. Another reason to hate ROR.

I'm not a fan of click tracks or ANYTHING pre-programmed/recorded at all...

Just put it out there and play. One thing I love about live shows is the room for error and improvisation.

Actually, Deen's the only one that hears the click, everyone else follows Deen's playing. And yes the answer to the question it's a pre-recorded synth playing the notes. If it was a pre-recorded "voice" it would look and sound very tape gate-ish.

ProgRocker53 wrote:I'm not a fan of click tracks or ANYTHING pre-programmed/recorded at all...

Just put it out there and play. One thing I love about live shows is the room for error and improvisation.

true. unless you need one guitar to do rhythm and lead, keyboard part but no player, brass, or you need additional voices for the harmony. Multimedia presenations, light shows, etc. There are lots of reasons to use it.

I have no problem with click track or any enhancement. BUT---I am also a HUGE fan of acoustic/unplugged.

Don't care. schedule the show, sell me a ticket, then schutt up and sing.

For the record, I am opposed to synthesized flutes.

Hire me--I'm cheap.

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:
Don't care. schedule the show, sell me a ticket, then schutt up and sing.

amen, sistah ...

Having live music withdrawal ... nothing till AC/DC and TSO after Christmas ... aaargh