Why Can't This Night........

by **madsplash** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:41 am

Are there any clips of Journey doing this with Arnel? I can't find any on Youtube. Did they even do this song on the recent tour?

I'd like to hear Arnel's version.

Did Journey ever play this live on the Raised on Radio tour?

Info?

by **JRNYFan** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:53 am

You won't find any clips. They haven't done it since the ROR tour as far as I'm aware.

by **Rick** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:41 am

JRNYFan wrote:You won't find any clips. They haven't done it since the ROR tour as far as I'm aware.

I don't think it's ever been performed live by Journey.

by **lights1961** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:42 am

Rick wrote:
JRNYFan wrote:You won't find any clips. They haven't done it since the ROR tour as far as I'm aware.

I don't think it's ever been performed live by Journey.

i could have sworn that Augeri did that waaaay baaack in the early days of his tenure.. but maybe I am mistaken...

Rick

by **Enigma869** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:56 am

lights1961 wrote:i could have sworn that Augeri did that waaaay baaack in the early days of his tenure.. but maybe I am mistaken...

Rick

That's not a track Augeri could have ever pulled off, and I'm sure that Neal knew that. The notes at the end of that track would have destroyed him. I suspect Arnel actually might be able to pull those notes off.

John from Boston

by **Jeremey** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:59 am

lights1961 wrote:
Rick wrote:
JRNYFan wrote:You won't find any clips. They haven't done it since the ROR tour as far as I'm aware.

I don't think it's ever been performed live by Journey.

i could have sworn that Augeri did that waaaay baaack in the early days of his tenure.. but maybe I am mistaken...

Rick

You may be thinking of When You Love A Woman which SA performed on earlier tours but I don't think made an appearance much after that.

by **lights1961** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:17 am

Jeremey wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
Rick wrote:
JRNYFan wrote:You won't find any clips. They haven't done it since the ROR tour as far as I'm aware.

I don't think it's ever been performed live by Journey.

i could have sworn that Augeri did that waaaay baaack in the early days of his tenure.. but maybe I am mistaken...

Rick

You may be thinking of When You Love A Woman which SA performed on earlier tours but I don't think made an appearance much after that.

maybe that is what I was thinking...

by **texafana** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:19 am

One of the best live versions of this song I've heard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

by **Voyager** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:23 am

texafana wrote:One of the best live versions of this song I've heard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

I agree. Jeremey rocks. He would have done a great job with Journey.

by **Jana** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:32 am

That's the song and video I complimented Jeremey on last night on another thread. I told him he needs to put it in his set list permanently.

by **Don** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:08 am

I think if Arnel sings it, the high notes a the end are going to come out like gargled glass. When I saw him live he doesn't appear to me to have a clean, alto type range (or whatever it is that Perry does at the end of that song), .. I think there is a reason Perry never sang it live. As has been said in some of his interviews, he knew which songs would blow his voice out, if included in the setlist.

by **WykkedSensation** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:25 am

I understood that the song had never been played before, by any era of the band.
However, i do recall someone once posting on some site (can't recall which site) that the band did in fact play it in Seattle, WA on the 4th or 5th show on the ROR tour, as they were there. I have never come across a boot of that show though, and it was to my knowledge, never played again. It certainly never has been since Perry.

by **StoneCold** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:53 am

I've reached the point I don't want any more AP covers. WYLAW and TPIYH were cool but enoughs enough.

I wasn't into the JSS covers and I'm tiring of AP doing them as well.

by **Enigma869** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:58 am

StoneCold wrote:I've reached the point I don't want any more AP covers. WYLAW and TPIYH were cool but enoughs enough.

I wasn't into the JSS covers and I'm tiring of AP doing them as well.

It sounds like it's time to find a new band to listen to, because the "covers" thing isn't going away anytime soon. Neal has been committed to being a cover band since Perry decided to collect Social Security :shock:

John from Boston

by **StoneCold** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:03 am

Enigma869 wrote:
StoneCold wrote:I've reached the point I don't want any more AP covers. WYLAW and TPIYH were cool but enoughs enough.

I wasn't into the JSS covers and I'm tiring of AP doing them as well.

It sounds like it's time to find a new band to listen to, because the "covers" thing isn't going away anytime soon. Neal has been committed to being a cover band since Perry decided to collect Social Security

John from Boston

Exactly. A few live clips? Ok. A throwaway cd in a marketing deal, fine. But give up screwin' with what doesn't need fixing. The Perry tracks are gold standard for Journey. Either do some original stuff or stay on vacation.

by **Onestepper** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:10 am

StoneCold wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
StoneCold wrote:I've reached the point I don't want any more AP covers. WYLAW and TPIYH were cool but enoughs enough.

I wasn't into the JSS covers and I'm tiring of AP doing them as well.

It sounds like it's time to find a new band to listen to, because the "covers" thing isn't going away anytime soon. Neal has been committed to being a cover band since Perry decided to collect Social Security

John from Boston

Exactly. A few live clips? Ok. A throwaway cd in a marketing deal, fine. But give up screwin' with what doesn't need fixing. The Perry tracks are gold standard for Journey. Either do some original stuff or stay on vacation.

I will say, and no disrespect to Jeremy's version cause I love me some Frontiers. But this is one song I don't want to hear anyone else but Perry singing...ever! I can handle most of the catalog being covered because that's what happens when you change singers. But leave this one (along with maybe 2 or 3 others) alone!

by **Don** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:28 am

StoneCold wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
StoneCold wrote:I've reached the point I don't want any more AP covers. WYLAW and TPIYH were cool but enoughs enough.

I wasn't into the JSS covers and I'm tiring of AP doing them as well.

It sounds like it's time to find a new band to listen to, because the "covers" thing isn't going away anytime soon. Neal has been committed to being a cover band since Perry decided to collect Social Security

John from Boston

Exactly. A few live clips? Ok. A throwaway cd in a marketing deal, fine. But give up screwin' with what doesn't need fixing. The Perry tracks are gold standard for Journey. Either do some original stuff or stay on vacation.

Agreed, no more covers. Arnel should be against them also as he needs songs with his name on the writing credits to start making some decent royalties.

by **JH'sTXfan** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:07 pm

texafana wrote:One of the best live versions of this song I've heard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

Aww, Tex. Every once in a while you just redeem yourself and make me want to give you a "big momma" hug.

by **escapefan** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:30 pm

I too am ready for new music. I don't want to hear anyone else sing this song also... Just doesn't seem right for anyone else to cover it.

by **squirt1** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:51 pm

Agree ,yet again ,John/Boston !

by **Jana** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:22 pm

Well, that's my "number one" favorite song of Journey and one of Steve Perry best vocal performances EVER, ranked up there with Patiently. I listen to WCTNGOF all the time. Having said that, I really think Jeremey does a beautiful job and I would enjoy seeing him perform it live. That's saying a lot coming from me. The problem is, Steve Perry couldn't even sound like he does on the album live with that song now.

And as far as Arnel next year, he has really surprised me with certain songs that he nails that I wouldn't think possible. So if he can do it, I'm all for it. It's on my wish list for next year. And if it's not quite right for Arnel, that's okay. I've got plenty more on my wish list for the next tour. :lol:

.

by **texafana** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:46 pm

JH'sTXfan wrote:
texafana wrote:One of the best live versions of this song I've heard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

Aww, Tex. Every once in a while you just redeem yourself and make me want to give you a "big momma" hug.

lol...

by **stevew2** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:02 pm

texafana wrote:One of the best live versions of this song I've heard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

I agree, I heard Perry do it live in 86,early in the tour.Closed with it[before the encore] I ve never heard anyone elso bit J doing it since. There is no need to.

by **WykkedSensation** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:53 am

stevew2 wrote:
texafana wrote:One of the best live versions of this song I've heard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0
I agree, I heard Perry do it live in 86,early in the tour.Closed with it[before the encore] I ve never heard anyone elso bit J doing it since. There is no need to.

Steve, what show was that where you seen the band perform it live in 86???

by **stevew2** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:41 am

WykkedSensation wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
texafana wrote:One of the best live versions of this song I've heard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0
I agree, I heard Perry do it live in 86,early in the tour.Closed with it[before the encore] I ve never heard anyone elso bit J doing it since. There is no need to.

Steve, what show was that where you seen the band perform it live in 86???

It was at the capitol center in Largo Md. I dont remember the date.I also remember they opened with Only the Young. perry was awesome, the fuckin place shook. It was sold out,those were the days.

by **S2M** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:07 am

texafana wrote:One of the best live versions of this song I've heard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

No offense to Jeremey, or anyone, but what is the fascination with this singing? At times he 'sounds' a bit like Steve, with certain inflections. But he has to contort his face and make these faces to do it. It comes across a bit forced. I'd say the same about Hugo. Arnel, and Kevin are the only ones who don't seem to have to force it. Not trying to be a curmudgeon. If he has a voice - use it on original stuff. Leave the Journey stuff alone, just like Hugo.

by **stevew2** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:10 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
texafana wrote:One of the best live versions of this song I've heard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

No offense to Jeremey, or anyone, but what is the fascination with this singing? At times he 'sounds' a bit like Steve, with certain inflections. But he has to contort his face and make these faces to do it. It comes across a bit forced. I'd say the same about Hugo. Arnel, and Kevin are the only ones who don't seem to have to force it. Not trying to be a curmudgeon. If he has a voice - use it on original stuff. Leave the Journey stuff alone, just like Hugo.

Thats retarded,you need to hear some of his recent stuff, do you have the recent cds he sent out?What is a curmudgeon??

by **Don** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 4:11 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
texafana wrote:One of the best live versions of this song I've heard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

No offense to Jeremey, or anyone, but what is the fascination with this singing? At times he 'sounds' a bit like Steve, with certain inflections. But he has to contort his face and make these faces to do it. It comes across a bit forced. I'd say the same about Hugo. Arnel, and Kevin are the only ones who don't seem to have to force it. Not trying to be a curmudgeon. If he has a voice - use it on original stuff. Leave the Journey stuff alone, just like Hugo.

He has been taking a crack at doing his own stuff. Check it out.

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... hp?t=38608

by **Rick** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 6:01 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
texafana wrote:One of the best live versions of this song I've heard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

No offense to Jeremey, or anyone, but what is the fascination with this singing? At times he 'sounds' a bit like Steve, with certain inflections. But he has to contort his face and make these faces to do it. It comes across a bit forced. I'd say the same about Hugo. Arnel, and Kevin are the only ones who don't seem to have to force it. Not trying to be a curmudgeon. If he has a voice - use it on original stuff. Leave the Journey stuff alone, just like Hugo.

I don't think Chalfant could sing that song anymore.

by **texafana** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:41 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
texafana wrote:One of the best live versions of this song I've heard...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgS2bNkmA0

No offense to Jeremey, or anyone, but what is the fascination with this singing? At times he 'sounds' a bit like Steve, with certain inflections. But he has to contort his face and make these faces to do it. It comes across a bit forced. I'd say the same about Hugo. Arnel, and Kevin are the only ones who don't seem to have to force it. Not trying to be a curmudgeon. If he has a voice - use it on original stuff. Leave the Journey stuff alone, just like Hugo.

It's not that he sounds like Perry on that recording, he just sounds fkin good on that song. Who gives a rats ass about facials when singing? Steve Perry would throw his head back, eye brows sky high, throat tighter than a school girls #$%&@ to get those high notes. Hugo? Please...his high notes are about as "loud" as a whisper. Arnel "might" have a chance to do the song justice, but those high notes will be tough for him to do without resorting to "screamsing".

MR

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