MR

I am getting ready to turn in my Cadillac Escalade after paying the last lease payment. I need to get into a new vehicle by December 11 when I drop off the Escalade. Things have slowed down for my business a little, so I am not going the Escalade route again. I have been looking at a Chrysler Aspen or a Dodge Durango, but with the fate of the Big 3 in limbo right now, I'm wondering if I would be better off buying a Nissan, Toyota, or Honda. I mean, how do I know the U.S. companies will even be around to service my vehicle? I'm sure I am not the only one who is waiting on a vehicle purchase to see if the U.S. automakers go bankrupt. This is probably hurting their sales even more.

What would you do?

buy American. Buy an American made Toyota or Honda or American made GM or Ford.

Voyager wrote:I am getting ready to turn in my Cadillac Escalade after paying the last lease payment. I need to get into a new vehicle by December 11 when I drop off the Escalade. Things have slowed down for my business a little, so I am not going the Escalade route again. I have been looking at a Chrysler Aspen or a Dodge Durango, but with the fate of the Big 3 in limbo right now, I'm wondering if I would be better off buying a Nissan, Toyota, or Honda. I mean, how do I know the U.S. companies will even be around to service my vehicle? I'm sure I am not the only one who is waiting on a vehicle purchase to see if the U.S. automakers go bankrupt. This is probably hurting their sales even more.

What would you do?

WOW from an Excalade to a Dodge... a little downturn???? Okay if you can swing it we have the Honda CRV awesome in winter... but if you want to buy american get the Ford Escape and not the Dodge...
there is a reason american cars are not faring very well.. its called DODGE..... now some swear by chvy some swear by ford... does anyone swear by Dodge???

anyway... if you feel patriotic is by the Ford Escapei think that comes as HYBRED now...... and if you want durable reliable by the honda CRV, or maybe the ACCORD Hybred.



Rick

lights1961 wrote:

Voyager wrote:I am getting ready to turn in my Cadillac Escalade after paying the last lease payment. I need to get into a new vehicle by December 11 when I drop off the Escalade. Things have slowed down for my business a little, so I am not going the Escalade route again. I have been looking at a Chrysler Aspen or a Dodge Durango, but with the fate of the Big 3 in limbo right now, I'm wondering if I would be better off buying a Nissan, Toyota, or Honda. I mean, how do I know the U.S. companies will even be around to service my vehicle? I'm sure I am not the only one who is waiting on a vehicle purchase to see if the U.S. automakers go bankrupt. This is probably hurting their sales even more.

What would you do?

WOW from an Excalade to a Dodge... a little downturn???? Okay if you can swing it we have the Honda CRV awesome in winter... but if you want to buy american get the Ford Escape and not the Dodge...
there is a reason american cars are not faring very well.. its called DODGE..... now some swear by chvy some swear by ford... does anyone swear by Dodge???

anyway... if you feel patriotic is by the Ford Escapei think that comes as HYBRED now...... and if you want durable reliable by the honda CRV, or maybe the ACCORD Hybred.



Rick

I had a Dodge Durango for three years from 2001-2004 and it was great. The Chrysler Aspen is about the same vehicle with a better-looking grille. I am looking at the fully-loaded versions for around $45k, which is $20k less than the Escalade. Plus, Chrysler is willing to give me a $10k discount on a new 2008 model... which brings it down to $35k. They both have pretty much the same features as the Escalade (navigation, rear camera, heated seats, Sirius radio, 20GB MP3 hard drive, 20" rims, DVD, etc.) except for the heated steering wheel. Maybe you're thinking of the $20k stripped-down Durango? The loaded one is a very nice vehicle.

Since you are talking Escalade type experience.
BMW X5. That bitch is safety tested for driving on the Autoban, pretty smooth and moves along quiet as a mouse. Blackberry syncs up easily with the bluetooth. Good vehicle.

Buy American or you're a commie.

You're rich.

Rick wrote:Buy American or you're a commie.

Or a kraut, But still get a Beemer, you'll be happy with it.

Gunbot wrote:

Rick wrote:Buy American or you're a commie.

Or a kraut, But still get a Beamer, you'll be happy with it.

They are fuckin sharp.

I've owned a Honda (Acura) and now own a Toyota (Lexus) and both are superb cars.

I highly doubt I'll buy an American made car again with the experience I've had with my foreign cars.

Sorry but Fords? The only way I'd drive one home is if it's given to me.

Rick wrote:

Gunbot wrote:

Rick wrote:Buy American or you're a commie.

Or a kraut, But still get a Beamer, you'll be happy with it.

They are fuckin sharp.

I watch some kind of auto show on PBS (MotorTrend?) and they always praise the high safety standards and rigorous test conditions of BMW cars.

Voyager wrote:I had a Dodge Durango for three years from 2001-2004 and it was great.

I have a 2005 Durango and it's a great SUV. While I don't love all Chrysler vehicles (I hate ALL Jeeps), they've come a long way from the Dodge Aries K of the 1980's!

Gunbot wrote:Since you are talking Escalade type experience.
BMW X5. That bitch is safety tested for driving on the Autoban, pretty smooth and moves along quiet as a mouse. Blackberry syncs up easily with the bluetooth. Good vehicle.

That looks sweet! How much $$$?

Voyager wrote:

Gunbot wrote:Since you are talking Escalade type experience.
BMW X5. That bitch is safety tested for driving on the Autoban, pretty smooth and moves along quiet as a mouse. Blackberry syncs up easily with the bluetooth. Good vehicle.

That looks sweet! How much $$$?

46k

Voyager wrote:That looks sweet! How much $$$?

The X5 starts at around $46K brand new. If you're in the luxury market, Lexus is the way to go. I've owned a Mercedes, BMW, and a Lexus, and I can tell you that it's really not close between the three auto makers. There is a reason that Lexus has been the number one auto maker in customer satisfaction for every year since their company started. I had a 2004 LX 470 until recently and it was a SUPERB vehicle. The LX is at the high end of the luxury SUV market, but Lexus makes a GX model that competes quite nicely with the X5.

Enigma869 wrote:

Voyager wrote:That looks sweet! How much $$$?

The X5 starts at around $46K brand new. If you're in the luxury market, Lexus is the way to go. I've owned a Mercedes, BMW, and a Lexus, and I can tell you that it's really not close between the three auto makers. There is a reason that Lexus has been the number one auto maker in customer satisfaction for every year since their company started. I had a 2004 LX 470 until recently and it was a SUPERB vehicle. The LX is at the high end of the luxury SUV market, but Lexus makes a GX model that competes quite nicely with the X5.

Jon, is the RX 400 just a 350 with the hybrid hoopla or is there something else different about it?

We bought a 2001 Benz E430 in early 2001, it has 70,000 miles on it now..it's been a GREAT vehicle, only have had the oil changed, period..plan to keep that baby til the wheels fall off. Seriously.

If you want to save $$$ and get a steal. What ever you look for make it a year old or so, but not brand new. Even with the big cash incentives, you can save even more with a low milage currrent year model. This is especially true with the domestics.

Voyager wrote: I'm wondering if I would be better off buying a Nissan, Toyota, or Honda. I mean, how do I know the U.S. companies will even be around to service my vehicle? I'm sure I am not the only one who is waiting on a vehicle purchase to see if the U.S. automakers go bankrupt. This is probably hurting their sales even more.

What would you do?

If you buy a Honda and take care of it, you shouldn't even have to service it beyond periodic tuneups for many, many years. That's a pretty easy choice.

I have owned nothing but American cars and probably will til the day I die. I have had remarkable luck with these cars. My Buick Riveria had over 300,000 miles when I hit a pole. My Camaro was probably the shittiest of the litter and that had almost 160,000 on it. My Trans Am pace car never gave me one problem. I sold it to a friend that promptly blew it up. My Chevy Blazer had 175,000 maintenance free miles. I had an 87 Monte Carlo that logged almost 200,000 miles and my current Monte Carlo just turned 104,000 maintenance free miles. I also had a 1972 Bonneville, but we won't talk about that one. It had an unfortunate end. I think that's all of them.

I had a honda civic that finally died after 425000 miles. ALl i had to do to it other than normal maintenance ( oil, tires , etc was replace the cv joints once each side .

I have an accord that i have not had to do a thing with

Gunbot wrote:Jon, is the RX 400 just a 350 with the hybrid hoopla or is there something else different about it?

From what I can tell, they are the same vehicle, in terms of engine and performance. The Hybrid model has about 2HP less and both models have a V6 engine. I don't know the exact mileage difference, but my experience with SUV's is that the Hybrid models don't get a significant number more miles per gallon. I have driven the RX numerous times (that's what the dealer always gave me as a loaner car when I brought the LX in for maintenance), and it's a nice little vehicle. That said, I'm 6'4", so the leg room wasn't ideal for a guy of my height. From what I can tell, all the same options are available on both models. I personally believe the X5 is a nicer vehicle than the RX, but I would probably take the GX over the X5 and would take the LX over the nicest X5 money can buy.

I would buy foreign but not the reason the poll says...

Looks like it's a tie so far. Thanks everyone... but I'm still not sure which way to go. There doesn't seem to be a majority on either side.

I guess the big issue right now is whether the Big 3 will survive. Who wants to buy a car from a company that may go under?

If your going to by a truck,buy a fuckin Chevy.i have one with 220,000 on it, never changed the trans fluid on it{rianno] you should apperciecate it.As far a cars go, spend 30 grand and get a honda .I spent$12,000,and bought a Hundy Sonata with 30,000 on it.Fucker runs great. Its made in Kentucky of all places.if the fucker falls apart, Ill be the first to let you know.The Japs are maken cars here now, and they are good cars.Its not where they are made but how they are made.My buddy bought a Malibu,{why do me freinds buy fucked up cars}?the clucker blew a head gasket at 30K WTF? American car manufactures need to fire there asshole CEOs, and there shitty employies that dont give a fuck.There is no need to have. Pontiac, Chevy,Saturn,fuickin Buick,and GM. They already did away with Oldsmobile{that was retarded anyway.] Chrysler has always been EVEN MORE RETARDED.Each company needs to make one brand and do it good.Ask the fuck asians how they make there cars and do it the same exact way

I've driven nothing but Toyota's. I had a Camry LE a 1997 it had 136,000 miles on it and only did oil changes and regular maintenance to it and I recently got a 2009 Corolla that I love. How about a Toyota Sequoia or a Highlander?

Ftloperry wrote:I've driven nothing but Toyota's. I had a Camry LE a 1997 and I recently got a 2009 Corolla that I love. How about a Toyota Sequoia or a Highlander?

The last car was made here i bet, go figure

Nope my 2009 Corolla was build completely in Japan.

Ftloperry wrote:Nope my 2009 Corolla was build completely in Japan.

that fucker will give you 300,000 then more. They build good shit. They made Yamaha pianos over in Japan, really good quality,then they made them in Georgia,just as good. Yamaha packed up there shit,and they are making are there pianos in fucking China.They are pieces of shit,even worse then what Tito drives. Everything we own we be made in China, that is fucked up.

I really think we as American's should help out the US economy and buy American.
I was thinking the same thing if I were to buy a new car.
US car makers are in deep shit,I guess anything would help.
Hell you might get a great deal on a GM or a Ford!