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I saw a Journey essential with a 3rd bonus CD that featured some songs that should have been on the original (Suzanne, Feeling That Way, Walks Like A Lady), what is the story behind this?
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Toph wrote:I saw a Journey essential with a 3rd bonus CD that featured some songs that should have been on the original (Suzanne, Feeling That Way, Walks Like A Lady), what is the story behind this?
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Does the third bonus have Why Can't This Night Go On Forever? Because that's definitely one song that should have been on the orginal Essential Journey. I can't believe it was left off and a couple other ones were on instead.

Story is: Sony loves to release classic material whenever Journey is releasing new material....

Essential Journey vs Arrival
Houston DVD vs Generations
Essential 3CD vs Revelation

jrnyman28 wrote:Story is: Sony loves to release classic material whenever Journey is releasing new material....

Essential Journey vs Arrival
Houston DVD vs Generations
Essential 3CD vs Revelation

Said this before. It is NOT just Journey.
You'll see that happen when there is current activity with other Legacy artists.
I've been observing. That's just what they do. Makes perfect business sense.

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

jrnyman28 wrote:Story is: Sony loves to release classic material whenever Journey is releasing new material....

Essential Journey vs Arrival
Houston DVD vs Generations
Essential 3CD vs Revelation

Said this before. It is NOT just Journey.
You'll see that happen when there is current activity with other Legacy artists.
I've been observing. That's just what they do. Makes perfect business sense.

Iam with you BJG.. makes since... but the essential is a rip off TIME 3 is so much better...and has the tracks as they should be...

The new Essential continues the trend of headscratching musical choices established by "Baby I'm a Leavin You" on the first go-around.
"When I Think of You" and "I Can See it in your Eyes" are fine songs, but essential?
Not hardly.

I hear what BJG is sayin, but Sony has showed deference to Perry in the past.
His direct input would help explain some of the batty creative choices going on here.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:The new Essential continues the trend of headscratching musical choices established by "Baby I'm a Leavin You" on the first go-around.
"When I Think of You" and "I Can See it in your Eyes" are fine songs, but essential?
Not hardly.

I hear what BJG is sayin, but Sony has showed deference to Perry in the past.
His direct input would help explain some of the batty creative choices going on here.

Sorry, but When I Think of You IS essential.....thankyouverymuch.

StocktontoMalone wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:The new Essential continues the trend of headscratching musical choices established by "Baby I'm a Leavin You" on the first go-around.
"When I Think of You" and "I Can See it in your Eyes" are fine songs, but essential?
Not hardly.

I hear what BJG is sayin, but Sony has showed deference to Perry in the past.
His direct input would help explain some of the batty creative choices going on here.

Sorry, but When I Think of You IS essential.....thankyouverymuch.

(Sigh) Such a romantic song.

Toph wrote:I saw a Journey essential with a 3rd bonus CD that featured some songs that should have been on the original (Suzanne, Feeling That Way, Walks Like A Lady), what is the story behind this?
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Perry, or someone vicarious wannabe spokesperson, promised a new album by end of 2008. This is it.


later~

StocktontoMalone wrote:Sorry, but When I Think of You IS essential.....thankyouverymuch.

On what grounds?
It wasn't released a single, it's not a concert fav...
Aside from the song's inspiration being Perry's dead mother, the song has very little significance historically or retrospectively.
Just because you like a song doesn't make it essential.
I'd argue even the unkown "Higher Place" marks more of a turning point in the band's overall legacy.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:The new Essential continues the trend of headscratching musical choices established by "Baby I'm a Leavin You" on the first go-around.
"When I Think of You" and "I Can See it in your Eyes" are fine songs, but essential?
Not hardly.

I hear what BJG is sayin, but Sony has showed deference to Perry in the past.
His direct input would help explain some of the batty creative choices going on here.

What the hell is I Can See it In Your Eyes?

Toph wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:The new Essential continues the trend of headscratching musical choices established by "Baby I'm a Leavin You" on the first go-around.
"When I Think of You" and "I Can See it in your Eyes" are fine songs, but essential?
Not hardly.

I hear what BJG is sayin, but Sony has showed deference to Perry in the past.
His direct input would help explain some of the batty creative choices going on here.

What the hell is I Can See it In Your Eyes?

It was an unreleased song from the TBF recording sessions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6tv57oNz4w

Toph wrote:What the hell is I Can See it In Your Eyes?

A half-ass song that didn't make it on to TBF. I believe it was the Japanese bonus song. For me, more than anything, it showcases Perrry's voice being blown out. He tries to show power at times and it's completely empty. I think that's why the album was ballad heavy.

this is the non essentials version volume one coming soon.....

1.can do
2.la do da
3.when your alone it ain't easy
4.homemade love
5.back talk
6.troubled child
7.It could have been you
8.once you love somebody
9.baby i'm leaving you
10.i can see it in your eyes
11.colors of the spirit
12.dead or alive (bonus track)

mikemarrs wrote:this is the non essentials version volume one coming soon.....

1.can do
2.la do da
3.when your alone it ain't easy
4.homemade love
5.back talk
6.troubled child
7.It could have been you
8.once you love somebody
9.baby i'm leaving you
10.i can see it in your eyes
11.colors of the spirit
12.dead or alive (bonus track)

Not a good song on there. Well, Can Do is ok.

yep can do is like the all important song that sets the tone of the album,lol.

Saint John wrote:

mikemarrs wrote:this is the non essentials version volume one coming soon.....

1.can do
2.la do da
3.when your alone it ain't easy
4.homemade love
5.back talk
6.troubled child
7.It could have been you
8.once you love somebody
9.baby i'm leaving you
10.i can see it in your eyes
11.colors of the spirit
12.dead or alive (bonus track)

Not a good song on there. Well, Can Do is ok.

Disagree. Worst Journey song ever. Yes even worse than Backtalk. Love numbers 7 and 12 though.

Deb wrote:

Saint John wrote:Not a good song on there. Well, Can Do is ok.

Disagree. Worst Journey song ever. Yes even worse than Backtalk. Love numbers 7 and 12 though.

Wow Deb. I might be your long lost daughter. (if not, can I be?) You even dislike the same J songs I do. LMAO. And its not many J songs at all that I actually dislike. "Can Do" makes me... well, kinda cringe a little... so does Blech Talk.

Every album, it seems, has some pretty weak songs on it. I know they try to put the best tracks on the album so it makes me wonder how bad some of the other stuff that gets left off is.

I think these releases are Sony's way of telling Steve “Look, we'll keep the royalties coming but if you ever try to peddle off some thing like “Against the wall” again, it will be “Asta la vista baby”.”

natural thing was left off departure and even though its an outtake i'd pretty much choose it over anything else on that album except maybe people and places.

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

Deb wrote:

Saint John wrote:Not a good song on there. Well, Can Do is ok.

Disagree. Worst Journey song ever. Yes even worse than Backtalk. Love numbers 7 and 12 though.

Wow Deb. I might be your long lost daughter. (if not, can I be?) You even dislike the same J songs I do. LMAO. And its not many J songs at all that I actually dislike. "Can Do" makes me... well, kinda cringe a little... so does Blech Talk.

I so agree. I don't like either of those songs at all.

tj wrote:Every album, it seems, has some pretty weak songs on it. I know they try to put the best tracks on the album so it makes me wonder how bad some of the other stuff that gets left off is.

"Back Talk" made it to Frontiers while "Liberty" and "Ask the Lonely" didn't...

... that makes me go like this

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

tj wrote:Every album, it seems, has some pretty weak songs on it. I know they try to put the best tracks on the album so it makes me wonder how bad some of the other stuff that gets left off is.

"Back Talk" made it to Frontiers while "Liberty" and "Ask the Lonely" didn't...

... that makes me go like this

Agreed! HATE the lyrics of that song! Sheesh, slap me in the face and tell me to belt up while you're at it, why don't you!

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

tj wrote:Every album, it seems, has some pretty weak songs on it. I know they try to put the best tracks on the album so it makes me wonder how bad some of the other stuff that gets left off is.

"Back Talk" made it to Frontiers while "Liberty" and "Ask the Lonely" didn't...

... that makes me go like this

Have to say I like Backtalk, but hate Rubicon....

bluejeangirl76 wrote:

tj wrote:Every album, it seems, has some pretty weak songs on it. I know they try to put the best tracks on the album so it makes me wonder how bad some of the other stuff that gets left off is.

"Back Talk" made it to Frontiers while "Liberty" and "Ask the Lonely" didn't...

... that makes me go like this

I understand holding a couple of good tracks for soundtrack albums, etc. if you are in your prime and think you can keep momentum going between albums by taking that route. At the time of Frontiers, it would have made sense to take that approach.

Saint John wrote:For me, more than anything, it showcases Perrry's voice being blown out.

Not to mention one of Neal's best solos ever.
Turn it up before the fade out and listen to him play like a man possessed.

Saint John wrote:

Toph wrote:What the hell is I Can See it In Your Eyes?

A half-ass song that didn't make it on to TBF. I believe it was the Japanese bonus song. For me, more than anything, it showcases Perrry's voice being blown out. He tries to show power at times and it's completely empty. I think that's why the album was ballad heavy.

Alright, that's it. Prepare to be vanquished.

This post, more than anything, showcases that you, in fact, suck. That's a great song, vocal blowout or not and Steve Smith MAKES that song. You hurt my feelings, now take that back.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:

Saint John wrote:For me, more than anything, it showcases Perrry's voice being blown out.

Not to mention one of Neal's best solos ever.
Turn it up before the fade out and listen to him play like a man possessed.

Almost has a bit of a Megadeth sound to it...love it!!!