MR

Really listened to it again closely today for the first time in a while and I think the disc is really strong. It's obviously a labor of love for SP songwriting wise and where he was mentally at the time, but what a vocally textured masterpiece!

Somewhere There's Hope is a vocally acrobatic, positve song that it makes you wanna cry and smack anyone with negativity.

Missing You is so spectacular that it makes anyone that thinks that The Voice can't write without Neal and Jon, seem silly. Again vocally, it's just as sophisticated as you can get. And don't give me the studio magic theory, I heard him do it live.

All in all, a heartfelt release by a man who has the greatest voice anyone's ever heard at a time when music really needed a return of melodic rock's
all time king.

I love everything SP has ever done solo and with Journey. Don't get me started about Street Talk! Go Away is one of the most complete pop songs ever written. SP/Neal/Jon are the greatest writing trio ever in my opinion. But on there solo releases, we see who was the master craftsman of that group.

THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE LEGEND, THE COMPOSER, ......................THE VOICE!

madsplash wrote:Really listened to it again closely today for the first time in a while and I think the disc is really strong. It's obviously a labor of love for SP songwriting wise and where he was mentally at the time, but what a vocally textured masterpiece!

Somewhere There's Hope is a vocally acrobatic, positve song that it makes you wanna cry and smack anyone with negativity.

Missing You is so spectacular that it makes anyone that thinks that The Voice can't write without Neal and Jon, seem silly. Again vocally, it's just as sophisticated as you can get. And don't give me the studio magic theory, I heard him do it live.

All in all, a heartfelt release by a man who has the greatest voice anyone's ever heard at a time when music really needed a return of melodic rock's
all time king.

I love everything SP has ever done solo and with Journey. Don't get me started about Street Talk! Go Away is one of the most complete pop songs ever written. SP/Neal/Jon are the greatest writing trio ever in my opinion. But on there solo releases, we see who was the master craftsman of that group.

THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE LEGEND, THE COMPOSER, ......................THE VOICE!

Are you Steve Perry?

Yup, I've always thought that album was pretty solid. I'm still not sure whether or not I like the changes made to the intro of "You Better Wait" from the original release versus the '06 remaster. The fade in is cool and all, but part of me still digs the original's power.

Jana wrote:

madsplash wrote:Really listened to it again closely today for the first time in a while and I think the disc is really strong. It's obviously a labor of love for SP songwriting wise and where he was mentally at the time, but what a vocally textured masterpiece!

Somewhere There's Hope is a vocally acrobatic, positve song that it makes you wanna cry and smack anyone with negativity.

Missing You is so spectacular that it makes anyone that thinks that The Voice can't write without Neal and Jon, seem silly. Again vocally, it's just as sophisticated as you can get. And don't give me the studio magic theory, I heard him do it live.

All in all, a heartfelt release by a man who has the greatest voice anyone's ever heard at a time when music really needed a return of melodic rock's
all time king.

I love everything SP has ever done solo and with Journey. Don't get me started about Street Talk! Go Away is one of the most complete pop songs ever written. SP/Neal/Jon are the greatest writing trio ever in my opinion. But on there solo releases, we see who was the master craftsman of that group.

THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE LEGEND, THE COMPOSER, ......................THE VOICE!

Are you Steve Perry?

Jana,
You never know, do ya?

Seriously, I wish I had 1/100th of the talent in my whole body that SP has in his left pinky finger. I'm just a male, non-gay, mesmorized by his talent fan.
Nothing more, nothing less. The guy is the most talented individual to walk the earth in the last 100 years. I'm just saying.

And he'll be back.

The first few times I listened to the CD I couldn't get past the raspy gasps for air heard in many of the songs. I'm sure it was for effect, but bugged me so much I quit listening.

Over time, I went back to the CD and got past my hang up. I now thoroughly enjoy the CD. Haven't heard the remaster and not sure I want to.

It was a vocally solid, but boring, album. The music is what makes the album shit. The magic of Journey simply wasn't there and record sales and radio play showed that.

Daaaaaaaaaamn that's good stuff! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpbOGrkLiNM

Saint John wrote:It was a vocally solid, but boring, album. The music is what makes the album shit. The magic of Journey simply wasn't there and record sales and radio play showed that.

As opposed to what, the record sales and radio play of Arrival?

It's all relative.

madsplash wrote:

Saint John wrote:It was a vocally solid, but boring, album. The music is what makes the album shit. The magic of Journey simply wasn't there and record sales and radio play showed that.

As opposed to what, the record sales and radio play of Arrival?

It's all relative.

Has nothing to do with sales or airplay, just good versus bad songs. I listen to FTLOSM maybe once a year and the songs I like, I have have on my play list. Arrival, I play all the time. Just a superior album.

close your eyes...and marvel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFn1xnPNWL0

the vocalizing in this one, FTLOSM and Donna Please are the most masterfully astounding sounds in recorded music.

wanna know what I really think???

Saint John wrote:It was a vocally solid, but boring, album. The music is what makes the album shit. The magic of Journey simply wasn't there and record sales and radio play showed that.

I agree w/ Dan here that that the album was a tad "boring" musically.
Alittle too heavy on the synths on some of the tracks but I still
love this album.

I think radio play and sales suffered from poor promotion
and just the fact that the musical landscape in '94 (?) wasn't
really tailored to this type of release. Sure, crooners like
Bolton were still selling tons but that's because he'd been
pumping out trash year after year...
Perry stayed out of the limelihgt too long, radio changed and passed him by...

I think maybe many don't accept Journey w/o Perry and Perry w/o Journey. After all these years fans are soooo divided and the closets are full of people who would jump at a reunion after 20 yrs. Some fans have attended 70-80's concerts,some are loons, some are fans of the music and can take the constant changes and antics. They were so huge in the classic Journey years that it will never end in the fans eyes. I don't think most even understand how HUGE this band was.

madsplash wrote:It's all relative.

I think Dan wasn't talking about quality relative to sort-of concurrent releases by others,
but rather, relative to what Journey (with Perry) once put out --see past work for reference.
For me FTLOSM was very bland material, albeit sung by a great voice.

wech

wednesday's child wrote:

madsplash wrote:It's all relative.

I think Dan wasn't talking about quality relative to sort-of concurrent releases by others,
but rather, relative to what Journey (with Perry) once put out --see past work for reference.
For me FTLOSM was very bland material, albeit sung by a great voice.

wech

It was a little bland for me, too, to listen straight through from beginning to end. Although, there's some songs I love on there, like Missing You. Just a beautiful song and beautifully sung.

madsplash wrote:I'm just a male, non-gay

Definitely not Perry then.

Whilst I do not agree that Perry is the most talented individual to walk the earth in the last 100 years - I mean c'mon, that's crazy talk - I definitely agree that 'For the Love of Strange Medicine' is an outstanding album and still holds up today.

I thought it was a brilliant fuckin album. I waited and waited by the radio in my studio apartment as they were supposed to be debuting "You Better Wait," and I had read on AOL that some ham and egger had heard the song and it had an a capella beginning and was 100% Perry all the way. So when those first vocal harmonies came in I was floored. I waited and bought the CD and played it every second of every day. I looked at Perry as an elder who seemed weary by his worldly experience, and I felt if I just absorbed those melodies and messages I could somehow learn from osmosis what he meant in the whole cosmos of things.

Understand I had NEVER heard a new Journey or Perry CD when this record came out. I had LIVED on Journey's releases since Time 3, and it seemed as though finally the world was right. When I heard "Anyway," I was convinced that a new legacy was about to be reborn, and I remember listening to those SPIN messages from Jon Cain's studio as they wrote the new record, and how excited I was. When the single "When You Love A Woman" came out, I bought it at Walmart while on my way to a sales call and listened in the parking lot, and I actually had tears in my eyes during the song because I felt that things had actually fallen into place.

How young, naive, and misinformed I must have been at the time. Regardless. FTLOSM is a classic record that grooves too darkly and too deeply to be written off as a musical one-off, and I know that Perry tried in his way to make things right with Sony and the band, but he really just found himself jumping on that roller coaster one more time.....The Eagles made it look so clean and easy. When the real world settled down on his shoulders it was really a totally different story.

Jeremey wrote:I thought it was a brilliant fuckin album. I waited and waited by the radio in my studio apartment as they were supposed to be debuting "You Better Wait," and I had read on AOL that some ham and egger had heard the song and it had an a capella beginning and was 100% Perry all the way. So when those first vocal harmonies came in I was floored. I waited and bought the CD and played it every second of every day. I looked at Perry as an elder who seemed weary by his worldly experience, and I felt if I just absorbed those melodies and messages I could somehow learn from osmosis what he meant in the whole cosmos of things.

Understand I had NEVER heard a new Journey or Perry CD when this record came out. I had LIVED on Journey's releases since Time 3, and it seemed as though finally the world was right. When I heard "Anyway," I was convinced that a new legacy was about to be reborn, and I remember listening to those SPIN messages from Jon Cain's studio as they wrote the new record, and how excited I was. When the single "When You Love A Woman" came out, I bought it at Walmart while on my way to a sales call and listened in the parking lot, and I actually had tears in my eyes during the song because I felt that things had actually fallen into place.

How young, naive, and misinformed I must have been at the time. Regardless. FTLOSM is a classic record that grooves too darkly and too deeply to be written off as a musical one-off, and I know that Perry tried in his way to make things right with Sony and the band, but he really just found himself jumping on that roller coaster one more time.....The Eagles made it look so clean and easy. When the real world settled down on his shoulders it was really a totally different story.

One of my faves too, have you ever performed that one?

Deb wrote:

Jeremey wrote:I thought it was a brilliant fuckin album. I waited and waited by the radio in my studio apartment as they were supposed to be debuting "You Better Wait," and I had read on AOL that some ham and egger had heard the song and it had an a capella beginning and was 100% Perry all the way. So when those first vocal harmonies came in I was floored. I waited and bought the CD and played it every second of every day. I looked at Perry as an elder who seemed weary by his worldly experience, and I felt if I just absorbed those melodies and messages I could somehow learn from osmosis what he meant in the whole cosmos of things.

Understand I had NEVER heard a new Journey or Perry CD when this record came out. I had LIVED on Journey's releases since Time 3, and it seemed as though finally the world was right. When I heard "Anyway," I was convinced that a new legacy was about to be reborn, and I remember listening to those SPIN messages from Jon Cain's studio as they wrote the new record, and how excited I was. When the single "When You Love A Woman" came out, I bought it at Walmart while on my way to a sales call and listened in the parking lot, and I actually had tears in my eyes during the song because I felt that things had actually fallen into place.

How young, naive, and misinformed I must have been at the time. Regardless. FTLOSM is a classic record that grooves too darkly and too deeply to be written off as a musical one-off, and I know that Perry tried in his way to make things right with Sony and the band, but he really just found himself jumping on that roller coaster one more time.....The Eagles made it look so clean and easy. When the real world settled down on his shoulders it was really a totally different story.

One of my faves too, have you ever performed that one?

Only at my house, with LarryNext Door laying down the geetar tracks. No such recording exists anymore.

Perry songs attemtpted by Frontiers:

Foolish Heart
Oh Sherrie
Strung Out
Then there was a song with an odd bridge from FTLSOM....Young Hearts Forever, covered while I was in the band Altura.

Jeremey wrote:

Deb wrote:

Jeremey wrote:I thought it was a brilliant fuckin album. I waited and waited by the radio in my studio apartment as they were supposed to be debuting "You Better Wait," and I had read on AOL that some ham and egger had heard the song and it had an a capella beginning and was 100% Perry all the way. So when those first vocal harmonies came in I was floored. I waited and bought the CD and played it every second of every day. I looked at Perry as an elder who seemed weary by his worldly experience, and I felt if I just absorbed those melodies and messages I could somehow learn from osmosis what he meant in the whole cosmos of things.

Understand I had NEVER heard a new Journey or Perry CD when this record came out. I had LIVED on Journey's releases since Time 3, and it seemed as though finally the world was right. When I heard "Anyway," I was convinced that a new legacy was about to be reborn, and I remember listening to those SPIN messages from Jon Cain's studio as they wrote the new record, and how excited I was. When the single "When You Love A Woman" came out, I bought it at Walmart while on my way to a sales call and listened in the parking lot, and I actually had tears in my eyes during the song because I felt that things had actually fallen into place.

How young, naive, and misinformed I must have been at the time. Regardless. FTLOSM is a classic record that grooves too darkly and too deeply to be written off as a musical one-off, and I know that Perry tried in his way to make things right with Sony and the band, but he really just found himself jumping on that roller coaster one more time.....The Eagles made it look so clean and easy. When the real world settled down on his shoulders it was really a totally different story.

One of my faves too, have you ever performed that one?

Only at my house, with LarryNext Door laying down the geetar tracks. No such recording exists anymore.

Perry songs attemtpted by Frontiers:

Foolish Heart
Oh Sherrie
Strung Out
Then there was a song with an odd bridge from FTLSOM....Young Hearts Forever, covered while I was in the band Altura.

Oh and I did Missing You by myself, and I want Frontiers to cover "One More Time" from YBW+5 that I lost and have no copy of to learn from.

Jeremey wrote:

Deb wrote:

Jeremey wrote:I thought it was a brilliant fuckin album. I waited and waited by the radio in my studio apartment as they were supposed to be debuting "You Better Wait," and I had read on AOL that some ham and egger had heard the song and it had an a capella beginning and was 100% Perry all the way. So when those first vocal harmonies came in I was floored. I waited and bought the CD and played it every second of every day. I looked at Perry as an elder who seemed weary by his worldly experience, and I felt if I just absorbed those melodies and messages I could somehow learn from osmosis what he meant in the whole cosmos of things.

Understand I had NEVER heard a new Journey or Perry CD when this record came out. I had LIVED on Journey's releases since Time 3, and it seemed as though finally the world was right. When I heard "Anyway," I was convinced that a new legacy was about to be reborn, and I remember listening to those SPIN messages from Jon Cain's studio as they wrote the new record, and how excited I was. When the single "When You Love A Woman" came out, I bought it at Walmart while on my way to a sales call and listened in the parking lot, and I actually had tears in my eyes during the song because I felt that things had actually fallen into place.

How young, naive, and misinformed I must have been at the time. Regardless. FTLOSM is a classic record that grooves too darkly and too deeply to be written off as a musical one-off, and I know that Perry tried in his way to make things right with Sony and the band, but he really just found himself jumping on that roller coaster one more time.....The Eagles made it look so clean and easy. When the real world settled down on his shoulders it was really a totally different story.

One of my faves too, have you ever performed that one?

Only at my house, with LarryNext Door laying down the geetar tracks. No such recording exists anymore.

Perry songs attemtpted by Frontiers:

Foolish Heart
Oh Sherrie
Strung Out
Then there was a song with an odd bridge from FTLSOM....Young Hearts Forever, covered while I was in the band Altura.

No “Don't fight it”? To be honest, that and “Foolish heart” are really the only Perry songs I like outside of Journey. I wish I could have seen Perry sing it on the Japanese shows from the Frontiers tour.

Jeremey wrote:

Deb wrote:

Jeremey wrote:I thought it was a brilliant fuckin album. I waited and waited by the radio in my studio apartment as they were supposed to be debuting "You Better Wait," and I had read on AOL that some ham and egger had heard the song and it had an a capella beginning and was 100% Perry all the way. So when those first vocal harmonies came in I was floored. I waited and bought the CD and played it every second of every day. I looked at Perry as an elder who seemed weary by his worldly experience, and I felt if I just absorbed those melodies and messages I could somehow learn from osmosis what he meant in the whole cosmos of things.

Understand I had NEVER heard a new Journey or Perry CD when this record came out. I had LIVED on Journey's releases since Time 3, and it seemed as though finally the world was right. When I heard "Anyway," I was convinced that a new legacy was about to be reborn, and I remember listening to those SPIN messages from Jon Cain's studio as they wrote the new record, and how excited I was. When the single "When You Love A Woman" came out, I bought it at Walmart while on my way to a sales call and listened in the parking lot, and I actually had tears in my eyes during the song because I felt that things had actually fallen into place.

How young, naive, and misinformed I must have been at the time. Regardless. FTLOSM is a classic record that grooves too darkly and too deeply to be written off as a musical one-off, and I know that Perry tried in his way to make things right with Sony and the band, but he really just found himself jumping on that roller coaster one more time.....The Eagles made it look so clean and easy. When the real world settled down on his shoulders it was really a totally different story.

One of my faves too, have you ever performed that one?

Only at my house, with LarryNext Door laying down the geetar tracks. No such recording exists anymore.

Perry songs attemtpted by Frontiers:

Foolish Heart
Oh Sherrie
Strung Out
Then there was a song with an odd bridge from FTLSOM....Young Hearts Forever, covered while I was in the band Altura.

For some reason I remember you and Larry putting a song up here a long time ago when I first joined MR. I don't remember which song it was, or did you guys do more than one song together?

Strung Out?! Another fave, any recording of that one?

Gunbot wrote:

Jeremey wrote:

Deb wrote:

Jeremey wrote:I thought it was a brilliant fuckin album. I waited and waited by the radio in my studio apartment as they were supposed to be debuting "You Better Wait," and I had read on AOL that some ham and egger had heard the song and it had an a capella beginning and was 100% Perry all the way. So when those first vocal harmonies came in I was floored. I waited and bought the CD and played it every second of every day. I looked at Perry as an elder who seemed weary by his worldly experience, and I felt if I just absorbed those melodies and messages I could somehow learn from osmosis what he meant in the whole cosmos of things.

Understand I had NEVER heard a new Journey or Perry CD when this record came out. I had LIVED on Journey's releases since Time 3, and it seemed as though finally the world was right. When I heard "Anyway," I was convinced that a new legacy was about to be reborn, and I remember listening to those SPIN messages from Jon Cain's studio as they wrote the new record, and how excited I was. When the single "When You Love A Woman" came out, I bought it at Walmart while on my way to a sales call and listened in the parking lot, and I actually had tears in my eyes during the song because I felt that things had actually fallen into place.

How young, naive, and misinformed I must have been at the time. Regardless. FTLOSM is a classic record that grooves too darkly and too deeply to be written off as a musical one-off, and I know that Perry tried in his way to make things right with Sony and the band, but he really just found himself jumping on that roller coaster one more time.....The Eagles made it look so clean and easy. When the real world settled down on his shoulders it was really a totally different story.

One of my faves too, have you ever performed that one?

Only at my house, with LarryNext Door laying down the geetar tracks. No such recording exists anymore.

Perry songs attemtpted by Frontiers:

Foolish Heart
Oh Sherrie
Strung Out
Then there was a song with an odd bridge from FTLSOM....Young Hearts Forever, covered while I was in the band Altura.

No “Don't fight it”? To be honest, that and “Foolish heart” are really the only Perry songs I like outside of Journey. I wish I could have seen Perry sing it on the Japanese shows from the Frontiers tour.

GB, Kenny LOVES don't fight it, and every other soundcheck he breaks out that crazy riff from the end of the chorus.

Chugalug Jeremey

stevew2 wrote:Chugalug Jeremey

You first, my brother!

Jeremey wrote:

stevew2 wrote:Chugalug Jeremey

You first, my brother!

Im ahead of ya Jeremey,but you can always catch up

I also love everything on FTLOSM and enjoy the sound on the re-mastered version even more.

stevew2 wrote:

Jeremey wrote:

stevew2 wrote:Chugalug Jeremey

You first, my brother!

Im ahead of ya Jeremey,but you can always catch up

I am holding up considerable well....my nacht will be ending by the toll of 330.

Jeremey wrote:

Jeremey wrote:

Deb wrote:

Jeremey wrote:I thought it was a brilliant fuckin album. I waited and waited by the radio in my studio apartment as they were supposed to be debuting "You Better Wait," and I had read on AOL that some ham and egger had heard the song and it had an a capella beginning and was 100% Perry all the way. So when those first vocal harmonies came in I was floored. I waited and bought the CD and played it every second of every day. I looked at Perry as an elder who seemed weary by his worldly experience, and I felt if I just absorbed those melodies and messages I could somehow learn from osmosis what he meant in the whole cosmos of things.

Understand I had NEVER heard a new Journey or Perry CD when this record came out. I had LIVED on Journey's releases since Time 3, and it seemed as though finally the world was right. When I heard "Anyway," I was convinced that a new legacy was about to be reborn, and I remember listening to those SPIN messages from Jon Cain's studio as they wrote the new record, and how excited I was. When the single "When You Love A Woman" came out, I bought it at Walmart while on my way to a sales call and listened in the parking lot, and I actually had tears in my eyes during the song because I felt that things had actually fallen into place.

How young, naive, and misinformed I must have been at the time. Regardless. FTLOSM is a classic record that grooves too darkly and too deeply to be written off as a musical one-off, and I know that Perry tried in his way to make things right with Sony and the band, but he really just found himself jumping on that roller coaster one more time.....The Eagles made it look so clean and easy. When the real world settled down on his shoulders it was really a totally different story.

One of my faves too, have you ever performed that one?

Only at my house, with LarryNext Door laying down the geetar tracks. No such recording exists anymore.

Perry songs attemtpted by Frontiers:

Foolish Heart
Oh Sherrie
Strung Out
Then there was a song with an odd bridge from FTLSOM....Young Hearts Forever, covered while I was in the band Altura.

Oh and I did Missing You by myself, and I want Frontiers to cover "One More Time" from YBW+5 that I lost and have no copy of to learn from.

You also recorded some amazing vocals for a version of 'You Better Wait'...

Who are you people?

finalfight wrote:

Jeremey wrote:

Jeremey wrote:

Deb wrote:

Jeremey wrote:I thought it was a brilliant fuckin album. I waited and waited by the radio in my studio apartment as they were supposed to be debuting "You Better Wait," and I had read on AOL that some ham and egger had heard the song and it had an a capella beginning and was 100% Perry all the way. So when those first vocal harmonies came in I was floored. I waited and bought the CD and played it every second of every day. I looked at Perry as an elder who seemed weary by his worldly experience, and I felt if I just absorbed those melodies and messages I could somehow learn from osmosis what he meant in the whole cosmos of things.

Understand I had NEVER heard a new Journey or Perry CD when this record came out. I had LIVED on Journey's releases since Time 3, and it seemed as though finally the world was right. When I heard "Anyway," I was convinced that a new legacy was about to be reborn, and I remember listening to those SPIN messages from Jon Cain's studio as they wrote the new record, and how excited I was. When the single "When You Love A Woman" came out, I bought it at Walmart while on my way to a sales call and listened in the parking lot, and I actually had tears in my eyes during the song because I felt that things had actually fallen into place.

How young, naive, and misinformed I must have been at the time. Regardless. FTLOSM is a classic record that grooves too darkly and too deeply to be written off as a musical one-off, and I know that Perry tried in his way to make things right with Sony and the band, but he really just found himself jumping on that roller coaster one more time.....The Eagles made it look so clean and easy. When the real world settled down on his shoulders it was really a totally different story.

One of my faves too, have you ever performed that one?

Only at my house, with LarryNext Door laying down the geetar tracks. No such recording exists anymore.

Perry songs attemtpted by Frontiers:

Foolish Heart
Oh Sherrie
Strung Out
Then there was a song with an odd bridge from FTLSOM....Young Hearts Forever, covered while I was in the band Altura.

Oh and I did Missing You by myself, and I want Frontiers to cover "One More Time" from YBW+5 that I lost and have no copy of to learn from.

You also recorded some amazing vocals for a version of 'You Better Wait'...

FF. you are absolutele right. It was YOU BETTER WAIT