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OT - Satriani sues Coldplay!!because of (La Vida)
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:20 amby Gordon from Edinburgh
Joe is suing Coldplay as he claims they have ripped off a track of his called If I could Fly - on first listen - it sounds blatant to me - i hope you get millions off them Joe!
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:26 amby S2M
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:28 amby finalfight
Coldpay suck ass. Thieving gits.
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:28 amby Gordon from Edinburgh
Thanks for the link my friend - what do you think???
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:28 amby Ehwmatt
Interesting. I'm a Satch fan but I haven't heard that track. I'll have to check it out. It wouldn't surprise me, since this Coldplay track is the only one I've heard that I actually like. Would make sense if they didn't come up with it
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:29 amby Gordon from Edinburgh
Ehwmatt wrote:Interesting. I'm a Satch fan but I haven't heard that track. I'll have to check it out. It wouldn't surprise me, since this Coldplay track is the only one I've heard that I actually like. Would make sense if they didn't come up with it
Its like you just got in my brain and typed out my exact sentiments. Cold Budvar just opened in your honour sir! Cheers!
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:33 amby S2M
Ahhhh....I see an rash of 'Check out these two song........'
and I'll start....
Enchant - Paint the Picture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_k8DqFrq60
Rush - Xanadu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_PPzcpeBw
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:35 amby Ehwmatt
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Interesting. I'm a Satch fan but I haven't heard that track. I'll have to check it out. It wouldn't surprise me, since this Coldplay track is the only one I've heard that I actually like. Would make sense if they didn't come up with it
Its like you just got in my brain and typed out my exact sentiments. Cold Budvar just opened in your honour sir! Cheers!
Cheers man!
Damn, it sure sounds suspicious. VERY suspicious. I think it's going to be a tough case for Satch. It's a guitar melody, not a vocal melody. On top of that, any case of music plagiarism of this nature is tough to prove because of the conventions of Western music/harmony - it's not inconceivable for them to write identical melodies over a given progression. On top of that, things like unconscious influence/lifting of a song you like can easily happen in the writing process.
I'm sure any of us who have taken a stab at songwriting here know that. So many neat little riffs I've had to toss once I realize they aren't mine
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:36 amby Ehwmatt
Check out
Rush - Xanadu
and Dream Theater - Trial of Tears
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwgb1HD-2RU
Not as obvious on the live version, but whatever.
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:39 amby Jana
I'm a Coldplay fan. I believe he probably heard it and did not remember he did and the melody stayed with him in his subconscious. He's not the type to blatantly and knowingly rip off someone else. He's too arrogant and too much of an artist to do that.
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:43 amby Gordon from Edinburgh
[. He's too arrogant and too much of an artist to do that.[/quote]
So were Jimmy Page and Robert Plant but they stole very blatantly from - lots of black bluesmen and even Jeff Beck.
Everybody steals to some small degree tho. Look at the guitarists that came after Eddie Van Halen - so blatant they nearly destroyed that scene as there was no originality amongst them - even tho the technical ability was good.
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:57 amby S2M
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:58 amby Voyager
Thanks! That songs kicks fucking ass!
WFT is Geddy Lee doing wearing a bathrobe on stage?
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:16 amby S2M
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:48 amby tammy
No mistaking the similar sound there. I like Coldplay & have their other 3 CDs but not this one...wonder what's gonna happen...how do they prove anything? I've always wondered about this...how does a musician know if they heard some melody/chords somewhere other than in their head. The subconscious holds onto things.
George Harrison was sued by a popular group for a song they said he plagiarized. He was so angry that he forbid everyone to have the radio on anywhere in the house or car when he was writing music.
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:11 amby TRAGChick
Y'know this is the 2nd time I've read that Coldplay cribbed "Vida" from a song that came before it.
However - the 1st song was a regular pop tune, from 07, but it "sounds" a lot older.
I heard it on a radio Morning Show about 2 months ago.
Coldplay vs. Creaky Boards Song Mashup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUhFLiw6 ... re=related
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:23 amby wednesday's child
There's only so many chord progressions out there, but... dat's eerie, mon.
Coldplay should just make nice and settle with Satriani out of court,
bundling/discounting it with a deal to remix the two tracks together,
and Satch takes lion's share of revenue from it; plus they offer to
bring Satch in as a paid guest on their next album, if he'll deign to.
Both tracks suck major ass, but Satriani is Satriani, so he gets a pass.
JM2Pesos,
wech
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:31 amby Don
Just like Vanilla Ice and Ray Parker, there will be a settlement, and a confidentiality agreement (Which Huey Lewis violated and now has to pay Ray Parker after Ray Parker payed him
)
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:56 amby G.I.Jim
Check this one out!
Jefferson Starship- "Jane"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PwG6962 ... re=related
Aldo Nova- "Fantasy"...just skip past the 1st minute or so of bullshit!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GylirgHFqeQ
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:12 amby Saint John
I'm with Coldplay on this one and I hate them fuckers. Satch is being a big fuckin' baby and should shut his mouth. Not enough there to convince me.
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:23 amby Gordon from Edinburgh
Saint John wrote:I'm with Coldplay on this one and I hate them fuckers. Satch is being a big fuckin' baby and should shut his mouth. Not enough there to convince me.
Come off it dude - when the tracks are laid over each its even the same KEY!
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:51 amby Saint John
Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:Saint John wrote:I'm with Coldplay on this one and I hate them fuckers. Satch is being a big fuckin' baby and should shut his mouth. Not enough there to convince me.
Come off it dude - when the tracks are laid over each its even the same KEY!
I heard the similarities, Gordo, but just not enough to give a fuck.
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:53 amby G.I.Jim
Saint John wrote:Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:Saint John wrote:I'm with Coldplay on this one and I hate them fuckers. Satch is being a big fuckin' baby and should shut his mouth. Not enough there to convince me.
Come off it dude - when the tracks are laid over each its even the same KEY!
I heard the similarities, Gordo, but just not enough to give a fuck.
Back to Jefferson Starship!
BTW, Answer you're phone HO!
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:54 amby Gordon from Edinburgh
Saint John wrote:Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:Saint John wrote:I'm with Coldplay on this one and I hate them fuckers. Satch is being a big fuckin' baby and should shut his mouth. Not enough there to convince me.
Come off it dude - when the tracks are laid over each its even the same KEY!
I heard the similarities, Gordo, but just not enough to give a fuck.
Ha Ha - like it mate.
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:57 amby Saint John
G.I.Jim wrote:Saint John wrote:Gordon from Edinburgh wrote:Saint John wrote:I'm with Coldplay on this one and I hate them fuckers. Satch is being a big fuckin' baby and should shut his mouth. Not enough there to convince me.
Come off it dude - when the tracks are laid over each its even the same KEY!
I heard the similarities, Gordo, but just not enough to give a fuck.
Back to Jefferson Starship!
BTW, Answer you're phone HO!
lol...I just saw that you called. I'll buzz you up tomorrow morning or afternoon.
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:58 pmby Sarah
I love Coldplay but Viva La Vida is a stupid song.
However, I don't think they would knowingly plagiarize someone like him for a lead single. The obscure NYC band, maybe. Not Satriani.
And it took him THIS LONG to bring out a suit? The song came out like a year ago...
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:38 pmby finalfight
Sarah wrote:And it took him THIS LONG to bring out a suit? The song came out like a year ago...
Maybe he has better taste in music than to listen to the turgid cr@p excreted by the likes of Chris Martin?
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:32 pmby janus65
Gunbot wrote:Just like Vanilla Ice and Ray Parker, there will be a settlement, and a confidentiality agreement (Which Huey Lewis violated and now has to pay Ray Parker after Ray Parker payed him
)
VANILLA ICE "Ice Ice Baby" and QUEENs "Under Pressure" in which Vanilla Ice made a settlement for an undisclosed amount.
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:45 pmby hoagiepete
I actually like the Aldo Nova album and was a huge Jeff Starship fan and I can honestly say I never put these two songs together until now. Pretty weird. At least Aldo Nova changed it up into a separate song, compared to the Coldplay BS.
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 6:43 pmby Sarah
finalfight wrote:Sarah wrote:And it took him THIS LONG to bring out a suit? The song came out like a year ago...
Maybe he has better taste in music than to listen to the turgid cr@p excreted by the likes of Chris Martin?
He must not watch TV because it was impossible to miss the iPod commercial.