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2008-09 College Football Bowl Schedule
BOWL LOCATION DATE/TIME NETWORK

EagleBank Bowl
Wake Forest vs. Navy Washington, D.C.
RFK Stadium Dec. 20, 11 a.m. ESPN

New Mexico
Colorado State vs. Fresno State Albuquerque
University Stadium Dec. 20, 2:30 p.m. ESPN

magicJack St. Petersburg
Memphis vs. South Florida St. Petersburg. Fla.
Tropicana Field Dec. 20, 4:30 p.m. ESPN2

Pioneer Las Vegas
BYU vs. Arizona Las Vegas
Sam Boyd Stadium Dec. 20, 8 p.m. ESPN

R+L Carriers New Orleans
Southern Miss vs. Troy New Orleans
Superdome Dec. 21, 8:15 p.m. ESPN

San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia
WAC vs. Mountain West San Diego
Qualcomm Stadium Dec. 23, 8 p.m. ESPN

Sheraton Hawaii
Hawaii vs. Notre Dame Honolulu
Aloha Stadium Dec. 24, 8 p.m. ESPN

Motor City
Florida Atlantic vs. Central Michigan Detroit
Ford Field Dec. 26, 8 p.m. ESPN

Meineke Car Care
West Virginia vs. North Carolina Charlotte, N.C.
Bank of America Stadium Dec. 27, 1 p.m. ESPN

Champs Sports
Wisconsin vs. Florida State Orlando, Fla.
Florida Citrus Bowl Dec. 27, 4:30 p.m. ESPN

Emerald
Miami (Fla.) vs. California San Francisco
AT&T Park Dec. 27, 8 p.m. ESPN

Independence
Northern Illinois vs. Louisiana Tech Shreveport, La.
Independence Stadium Dec. 28, 8:15 p.m. ESPN

Papajohns.com
NC State vs. Rutgers Birmingham, Ala.
Legion Field Dec. 29, 3 p.m. ESPN

Valero Alamo
Missouri vs. Northwestern San Antonio
Alamodome Dec. 29, 8 p.m. ESPN

Roady's Humanitarian
Maryland vs. Nevada Boise, Idaho
Bronco Stadium Dec. 30, 4:30 p.m. ESPN

Texas
Rice vs. Western Michigan Houston
Reliant Stadium Dec. 30, 8 p.m. NFL Network

Pacific Life Holiday
Oklahoma State vs. Oregon San Diego
Qualcomm Stadium Dec. 30, 8 p.m. ESPN

Bell Helicopter Armed Forces
Houston vs. Air Force Fort Worth, Texas
Amon G. Carter Stadium Dec. 31, Noon ESPN

Brut Sun
Oregon State vs. Pittsburgh El Paso, Texas
Sun Bowl Dec. 31, 2 p.m. CBS

Gaylord Hotels Music City
Boston College vs. Vanderbilt Nashville, Tenn.
LP Field Dec. 31, 3:30 p.m. ESPN

Insight
Kansas vs. Minnesota Tempe, Ariz.
Sun Devil Stadium Dec. 31, 5:30 p.m. NFL Network

Chick-fil-A
LSU vs. Georgia Tech Atlanta
Georgia Dome Dec. 31, 7:30 p.m. ESPN

Outback
South Carolina vs. Iowa Tampa, Fla.
Raymond James Stadium Jan. 1, 2009, 11 a.m. ESPN

Capital One
Georgia vs. Michigan State Orlando, Fla.
Florida Citrus Bowl Jan. 1, 2009, 1 p.m. ABC

Konica Minolta Gator
Clemson vs. Nebraska Jacksonville, Fla.
Jacksonville Municipal Stadium Jan. 1, 2009, 1 p.m. CBS

Rose Bowl Game Presented by Citi
Penn State vs. USC Pasadena, Calif.
Rose Bowl Jan. 1, 2009, 4:30 p.m. ABC

FedEx Orange
Cincinnati vs. Virginia Tech Miami
Dolphin Stadium Jan. 1, 2009, 8:30 p.m. FOX

AT&T Cotton
Ole Miss vs. Texas Tech Dallas
Cotton Bowl Jan. 2, 2009, 2 p.m. FOX

AutoZone Liberty
Kentucky vs. East Carolina Memphis, Tenn.
Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium Jan. 2, 2009, 5 p.m. ESPN

Allstate Sugar
Utah vs. Alabama New Orleans
Superdome Jan. 2, 2009, 8 p.m. FOX

International
Buffalo vs. Connecticut Toronto
Rogers Centre Jan. 3, 2009, Noon ESPN2

Tostitos Fiesta
Ohio State vs. Texas Glendale, Ariz.
University of Phoenix Stadium Jan. 5, 2009, 8 p.m. FOX

GMAC
Tulsa vs. Ball State Mobile, Ala.
Ladd-Peebles Stadium Jan. 6, 2009, 8 p.m. ESPN

FedEx BCS National Championship Game
Oklahoma vs. Florida Miami
Dolphin Stadium Jan. 8, 2009 8pm FOX

FedEx Orange
Cincinnati vs. Virginia Tech
Miami Dolphin Stadium Jan. 1, 2009, 8:30 p.m. FOX




Salvaged the year. *phew*

Luvsaugeri wrote:
AT&T Cotton
Ole Miss vs. Texas Tech Dallas
Cotton Bowl Jan. 2, 2009, 2 p.m. FOX

Cotton Bowl.....

its in Oak Cliff.. have to pay a guy $20 bucks to park in his yard.. the yard owner is named "murder"..

the cotton bowl stadium was built with seats so close to each other you cant move..

if someone has to get past you.. you HAVE to stand up to make room..

however ,, the Welcome Inn is close by.. and ALWAYS has room for rent.. dont stick your arm down the holes in the wall.. dont touch the remote.. dont answer the door! she wants your money..

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

Luvsaugeri wrote:
AT&T Cotton
Ole Miss vs. Texas Tech Dallas
Cotton Bowl Jan. 2, 2009, 2 p.m. FOX

Cotton Bowl.....

its in Oak Cliff.. have to pay a guy $20 bucks to park in his yard.. the yard owner is named "murder"..

the cotton bowl stadium was built with seats so close to each other you cant move..

if someone has to get past you.. you HAVE to stand up to make room..

however ,, the Welcome Inn is close by.. and ALWAYS has room for rent.. dont stick your arm down the holes in the wall.. dont touch the remote.. dont answer the door! she wants your money..

That part of Dallas is pretty rough. Quite the shithole. If they would build an amphitheater somewhere/ANYwhere else, I'd never have to go back there and wouldn't miss it, at all.

Why isn't Texas playing Alabama? Don't they wan't competive games? What a joke.

Gunbot wrote:Why isn't Texas playing Alabama? Don't they wan't competive games? What a joke.

If I'm not mistaken, the Fiesta Bowl gets to pick from the at-large teams before the Sugar Bowl does in the BCS pecking order:

The Big 12 is affiliated with the Fiesta Bowl, so Texas (as next-in-line from the Big 12 after Oklahoma) goes there.
The SEC is affiliated with the Sugar Bowl, so Alabama (as next-in-line from the SEC after Florida) goes there.

The Fiesta Bowl gets to pick whichever at-large they want to play Texas, so they pick Ohio State. The Sugar Bowl is up next and picks (or is stuck with) Utah.

So the Fiesta Bowl gets the more attractive matchup on paper, because they get dibs on who they want to play before the Sugar Bowl does.

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:

Gunbot wrote:Why isn't Texas playing Alabama? Don't they wan't competive games? What a joke.

If I'm not mistaken, the Fiesta Bowl gets to pick from the at-large teams before the Sugar Bowl does in the BCS pecking order:

The Big 12 is affiliated with the Fiesta Bowl, so Texas (as next-in-line from the Big 12 after Oklahoma) goes there.
The SEC is affiliated with the Sugar Bowl, so Alabama (as next-in-line from the SEC after Florida) goes there.

The Fiesta Bowl gets to pick whichever at-large they want to play Texas, so they pick Ohio State. The Sugar Bowl is up next and picks (or is stuck with) Utah.

So the Fiesta Bowl gets the more attractive matchup on paper, because they get dibs on who they want to play before the Sugar Bowl does.

.. ill take your word.. wow..

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:

Gunbot wrote:Why isn't Texas playing Alabama? Don't they wan't competive games? What a joke.

If I'm not mistaken, the Fiesta Bowl gets to pick from the at-large teams before the Sugar Bowl does in the BCS pecking order:

The Big 12 is affiliated with the Fiesta Bowl, so Texas (as next-in-line from the Big 12 after Oklahoma) goes there.
The SEC is affiliated with the Sugar Bowl, so Alabama (as next-in-line from the SEC after Florida) goes there.

The Fiesta Bowl gets to pick whichever at-large they want to play Texas, so they pick Ohio State. The Sugar Bowl is up next and picks (or is stuck with) Utah.

So the Fiesta Bowl gets the more attractive matchup on paper, because they get dibs on who they want to play before the Sugar Bowl does.

.. ill take your word.. wow..

Yeah, there's a pecking order in these BCS bowls that makes things confusing. But you have to remember that the BCS formula is designed to just pick the top two teams to play for the National Championship.

And you also have to remember that there are conference affiliations in these bowl games, so the league champions are usually automatically locked into a certain BCS game (unless the champion goes to the BCS Championship Game):

Orange Bowl: ACC vs. Big East
Sugar Bowl: SEC vs. at-large
Fiesta Bowl: Big 12 vs. at-large
Rose Bowl: Big Ten vs. Pac-10

The at-large spots can be filled by another team from the BCS conference, or a team from a non-BCS conference. It's up to the bowl to pick who they want.

I think they don't want strength of schedule to be a factor in the final standings so they can avoid a split title. I hope the AP throws a wrench into this and selects a different number one, come Jan. 09.

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:

Gunbot wrote:Why isn't Texas playing Alabama? Don't they wan't competive games? What a joke.

If I'm not mistaken, the Fiesta Bowl gets to pick from the at-large teams before the Sugar Bowl does in the BCS pecking order:

The Big 12 is affiliated with the Fiesta Bowl, so Texas (as next-in-line from the Big 12 after Oklahoma) goes there.
The SEC is affiliated with the Sugar Bowl, so Alabama (as next-in-line from the SEC after Florida) goes there.

The Fiesta Bowl gets to pick whichever at-large they want to play Texas, so they pick Ohio State. The Sugar Bowl is up next and picks (or is stuck with) Utah.

So the Fiesta Bowl gets the more attractive matchup on paper, because they get dibs on who they want to play before the Sugar Bowl does.

.. ill take your word.. wow..

Yeah, there's a pecking order in these BCS bowls that makes things confusing. But you have to remember that the BCS formula is designed to just pick the top two teams to play for the National Championship.

And you also have to remember that there are conference affiliations in these bowl games, so the league champions are usually automatically locked into a certain BCS game (unless the champion goes to the BCS Championship Game):

Orange Bowl: ACC vs. Big East
Sugar Bowl: SEC vs. at-large
Fiesta Bowl: Big 12 vs. at-large
Rose Bowl: Big Ten vs. Pac-10

The at-large spots can be filled by another team from the BCS conference, or a team from a non-BCS conference. It's up to the bowl to pick who they want.

Anyone remember Texas beating Michigan in the RoseBowl? They could mix it up, but now, it looks like we'll get a game like Hawaii/Georgia again. Not good.

Gunbot wrote:I think they don't want strength of schedule to be a factor in the final standings so they can avoid a split title. I hope the AP throws a wrench into this and selects a different number one, come Jan. 09.

Won't happen. Whichever team wins the BCS National Championship Game will be the #1 team in the country (as it should be). I think the BCS got it right this year. And before you tell me that Texas should be in over Oklahoma because they beat them, remember that one of the factors in the BCS formula is margin of victory. And Oklahoma certainly took care of that by scoring 60+ points in their last five games.

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:

Gunbot wrote:I think they don't want strength of schedule to be a factor in the final standings so they can avoid a split title. I hope the AP throws a wrench into this and selects a different number one, come Jan. 09.

Won't happen. Whichever team wins the BCS National Championship Game will be the #1 team in the country (as it should be). I think the BCS got it right this year. And before you tell me that Texas should be in over Oklahoma because they beat them, remember that one of the factors in the BCS formula is margin of victory. And Oklahoma certainly took care of that by scoring 60+ points in their last five games.

I'm actually pulling for the RoseBowl winner. I thought the BCS was supposed to mske running up the score a nonfactor because of the shit Spurrier used to pull?

Gunbot wrote:Anyone remember Texas beating Michigan in the RoseBowl? They could mix it up, but now, it looks like we'll get a game like Hawaii/Georgia again. Not good.

That happened because the Pac-10 champion, USC (who usually goes to the Rose Bowl), was in the national championship game. All bets are off when a conference champion goes to the national championship game. That's why that Rose Bowl was mixed up.

Gunbot wrote:I'm actually pulling for the RoseBowl winner. I thought the BCS was supposed to mske running up the score a nonfactor because of the shit Spurrier used to pull?

Pretty sure margin of victory is still in there, although I could be mistaken...

Gunbot wrote:Why isn't Texas playing Alabama? Don't they wan't competive games? What a joke.

bowl system = clusterfuck

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:If I'm not mistaken, the Fiesta Bowl gets to pick from the at-large teams before the Sugar Bowl does in the BCS pecking order:

The pecking order changes every year. This year, you are correct, the Fiesta gets to go first. However, The Rose Bowl has a stipulation that if their bowl does not feature a 1 or 2 team, they can have their PAC10- Big Ten game, as they have this year. Had SC or PSU been 1 or 2, they of course would be in Miami and not Pasadena.

The Big 12 is affiliated with the Fiesta Bowl, so Texas (as next-in-line from the Big 12 after Oklahoma) goes there.

Well, I guess they are. However, in reality, Texas Tech beat them and had identical record but you know the all holy BCS...

The SEC is affiliated with the Sugar Bowl, so Alabama (as next-in-line from the SEC after Florida) goes there.

Makes sense geographically.

The Fiesta Bowl gets to pick whichever at-large they want to play Texas, so they pick Ohio State.

Why would they pick Ohio State you ask? A boring, Big Ten team who seemingly gets hammered in every big bowl game in recent memory(before you say "they beat Miami"..true, but it was on a fluke no call PI in the end zone). The Fiesta picked OSU for one reason. Buckeye Nation travels as well as anyone in the nation(Notre Dame in Hawaii will sell out too because all the rich fuckin Catholics)...will wing on over to the Big Island and watch their beloved 6-6Irish battle the Rainbow Warriors.

So the Fiesta Bowl gets the more attractive matchup on paper, because they get dibs on who they want to play before the Sugar Bowl does.

You and Granners think alike? "On Paper"

I am actually going to pray, morning, noon and night for not only an Oklahoma victory, but a fucking blowout of colossal proportions. Texas and Oklahoma are the two best teams in CFB and USC is third best. I can't wait for Tebow to run that high school inside flip, option bullshit against Oklahoma. Those goat roping corn fed ox fuckers will rip his fucking head off and shit down his neck. And that Florida defense is in for a long day. Their D line is not very good. Meyer knows OU will run over him like an Afghan child who found five bucks, sprinting to the new Kabul McDonalds...he will have to stunt his safeties and take chances with his corners in order to stop that freight train O line of OU; then Bradford will toss over the top or into the middle via slants and quick hitches and it's bye bye gators.

Granny wrote:

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:The Fiesta Bowl gets to pick whichever at-large they want to play Texas, so they pick Ohio State.

Why would they pick Ohio State you ask? A boring, Big Ten team who seemingly gets hammered in every big bowl game in recent memory(before you say "they beat Miami"..true, but it was on a fluke no call PI in the end zone). The Fiesta picked OSU for one reason. Buckeye Nation travels as well as anyone in the nation(Notre Dame in Hawaii will sell out too because all the fuckin rich catholics)...

Well, I don't see anything wrong with a bowl picking a team whose fans will spend money. You can't tell me Ohio State isn't qualified to be there. Their only two losses are to the two Rose Bowl teams. I bet they'll give Texas a better game than Utah would.

Wow Granny.....such anger and language. Doesn't sound like you.....

You know what "Granny" every point you made about Florida is chock full of horse shit. You havent made one truthful comment about anything other than what sounds like a jealous fan of another team that always underachieves. There used to be another poster on here that shared the same outlook, I think he was a Washington State fan.
"Granny", Everything you said about Florida's inability to cover OU sounds like the same shit I heard about Alabama, who I believe would also beat OU and anyone in the PATHETIC Pac10. Florida took their hearts and showed them reality just as they will do to OU. I can promise you that Bob Stoops doesnt share your feelings as many of the rational OU fans dont as well. Once again it comes down to such jealousy over the SEC that you dont see things clearly. If you really think Urban Meyer is concerned about the OU defense then you need to switch the brand of beer your drinking. Urban knows this team plays in the SEC and nothing outside of the conference is more than what we've already seen throughout the year. Stoops knows his team is in for a dogfight. He knows his team is playing the toughest game they'll play this decade. "Granny", I know you'll never give any credit to Florida and I dont expect you too but rather than butting heads with you here Im gonna just chalk it up to what I know vs. what you know. Florida by +14.

larryfromnextdoor wrote:

Luvsaugeri wrote:
AT&T Cotton
Ole Miss vs. Texas Tech Dallas
Cotton Bowl Jan. 2, 2009, 2 p.m. FOX

Cotton Bowl.....

its in Oak Cliff.. have to pay a guy $20 bucks to park in his yard.. the yard owner is named "murder"..

the cotton bowl stadium was built with seats so close to each other you cant move..

if someone has to get past you.. you HAVE to stand up to make room..

however ,, the Welcome Inn is close by.. and ALWAYS has room for rent.. dont stick your arm down the holes in the wall.. dont touch the remote.. dont answer the door! she wants your money..

Lar, I like that the Welcome Inn has hourly rates too...............

Rhiannon wrote:FedEx Orange
Cincinnati vs. Virginia Tech
Miami Dolphin Stadium Jan. 1, 2009, 8:30 p.m. FOX




Salvaged the year. *phew*

Worst Orange Bowl matchup of all time. It's a shame what has become of that once great bowl game.

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:

Gunbot wrote:Anyone remember Texas beating Michigan in the RoseBowl? They could mix it up, but now, it looks like we'll get a game like Hawaii/Georgia again. Not good.

That happened because the Pac-10 champion, USC (who usually goes to the Rose Bowl), was in the national championship game. All bets are off when a conference champion goes to the national championship game. That's why that Rose Bowl was mixed up.

If they don't do a playoff, they should just go back to the traditional matchups and play on New Years Day. Fuck this BCS bullshit.

Tito wrote:

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:

Gunbot wrote:Anyone remember Texas beating Michigan in the RoseBowl? They could mix it up, but now, it looks like we'll get a game like Hawaii/Georgia again. Not good.

That happened because the Pac-10 champion, USC (who usually goes to the Rose Bowl), was in the national championship game. All bets are off when a conference champion goes to the national championship game. That's why that Rose Bowl was mixed up.

If they don't do a playoff, they should just go back to the traditional matchups and play on New Years Day. Fuck this BCS bullshit.

exactly.



did I just agree with Tito? yup. good call

Tito wrote:Worst Orange Bowl matchup of all time. It's a shame what has become of that once great bowl game.

Hey, I'm not too thrilled with playing Cincy, nor do I think VT actually earned that BCS berth. I also don't understand how the hell they ended up ACC champs after the year they've had and the way they've played. BUT... I'll take it.

ScarabGator wrote:You know what "Granny" every point you made about Florida is chock full of horse shit. You havent made one truthful comment about anything other than what sounds like a jealous fan of another team that always underachieves. There used to be another poster on here that shared the same outlook, I think he was a Washington State fan.
"Granny", Everything you said about Florida's inability to cover OU sounds like the same shit I heard about Alabama, who I believe would also beat OU and anyone in the PATHETIC Pac10. Florida took their hearts and showed them reality just as they will do to OU. I can promise you that Bob Stoops doesnt share your feelings as many of the rational OU fans dont as well. Once again it comes down to such jealousy over the SEC that you dont see things clearly. If you really think Urban Meyer is concerned about the OU defense then you need to switch the brand of beer your drinking. Urban knows this team plays in the SEC and nothing outside of the conference is more than what we've already seen throughout the year. Stoops knows his team is in for a dogfight. He knows his team is playing the toughest game they'll play this decade. "Granny", I know you'll never give any credit to Florida and I dont expect you too but rather than butting heads with you here Im gonna just chalk it up to what I know vs. what you know. Florida by +14.

Little boy, put down the Miller Lite.

1- Jealous? Nope. I never claimed Washington State was a juggernaut. In fact, I made more fun of them than anyone I know. They were dogshit. However, I graduated from there, not just a fan as you said.

2- Alabama DID run roughshod over your D line. Why Saban went away with that I have no idea. Florida could not stop their run. You must have been at a different game than the one I watched.

3- Why bring the PAC 10 into this? I know they suck this year, but the SEC sure as Hell didn't set the world on fire.

Instead of insults, why don't you answer, or spin in your case, the fact that Florida LOST at home to an unranked team, while all the other 1 loss teams took care of their business at home. I thought "no one came out of the swamp alive?" Apparently, Ole Miss never received the memo. They went in there and beat your asses. I do not recall USC losing at home to say, Cal(a Mississippi equivalent)? I don't recall OU losing to Baylor at home, or Texas losing to Kansas State at home, or Tech losing to Iowa State in Lubbock?

Why does Florida, a team that played a weak OOC schedule, lose at home to an unranked also ran, play for it all, while Texas, who beat your BCS championship opponent already, get to wax OSU in Phoenix? Or USC beating the snot out of the Buckeyes, has to play Penn State? Count your blessings.

So if OU does smoke you in the BCS champ game, you have to conclude that Texas is better than you as well, since they beat OU handily.

Those are all facts, not pom pom bong water.

epresley wrote:Lar, I like that the Welcome Inn has hourly rates too...............

thats the one.. i guess some folks like to check in and get an hours nap before hitting the road again,,

i cant think of another reason...

Granny wrote:
Why would they pick Ohio State you ask? A boring, Big Ten team who seemingly gets hammered in every big bowl game in recent memory(before you say "they beat Miami"..true, but it was on a fluke no call PI in the end zone). The Fiesta picked OSU for one reason. Buckeye Nation travels as well as anyone in the nation(Notre Dame in Hawaii will sell out too because all the rich fuckin Catholics)...will wing on over to the Big Island and watch their beloved 6-6Irish battle the Rainbow Warriors.

Yes Ohio State beat Miami in regulation and overtime. Ohio St completed a pass for a first down that would have ended the game. Officials called it incomplete and allowed Miami to tie.

Miami committed an obvious defensive penalty that only tied the game in Overtime. It was a delayed penalty only because the ref didn't know whether to call defensive holding or pass interference. If you watch the whole play the defender was all over him and since the ball was passed to him, you have to call the penalty, otherwise Miami would have won on a no call. Ohio State then scored a td and stopped Miami to win the NC.

You are incorrect about the fluke no call (it was the exact opposite). You "bought in" to the hate Ohio State hype. Ohio State is 4 -2 in the BCS and 4 -1 in Arizona Bowl games.

(Crazy)Dulce Lady wrote:

Tito wrote:

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:

Gunbot wrote:Anyone remember Texas beating Michigan in the RoseBowl? They could mix it up, but now, it looks like we'll get a game like Hawaii/Georgia again. Not good.

That happened because the Pac-10 champion, USC (who usually goes to the Rose Bowl), was in the national championship game. All bets are off when a conference champion goes to the national championship game. That's why that Rose Bowl was mixed up.

If they don't do a playoff, they should just go back to the traditional matchups and play on New Years Day. Fuck this BCS bullshit.

exactly.



did I just agree with Tito? yup. good call

Yes, you finally got something right.

I'm just kidding.

I can hardly wait for that "papajohns.com" bowl. Oh, how I yearn for the days of the Poulan Weedeater Bowl What a fucking embarrassment!

MidNightTrain wrote:Yes Ohio State beat Miami in regulation and overtime. Ohio St completed a pass for a first down that would have ended the game. Officials called it incomplete and allowed Miami to tie.

Miami committed an obvious defensive penalty that only tied the game in Overtime. It was a delayed penalty only because the ref didn't know whether to call defensive holding or pass interference. If you watch the whole play the defender was all over him and since the ball was passed to him, you have to call the penalty, otherwise Miami would have won on a no call. Ohio State then scored a td and stopped Miami to win the NC.

You are incorrect about the fluke no call (it was the exact opposite). You "bought in" to the hate Ohio State hype. Ohio State is 4 -2 in the BCS and 4 -1 in Arizona Bowl games.

Relax. Ohio State isn't even really in the conversation here. The meat and potatoes is whether Florida should even be in the fuckin BCS title game. Ohio State will get their teeth kicked in this year by a pissed off Texas team, who, if they win, IMO, can claim at least a share of the title, as they beat OU already.

Now you OSU fans are almost, not quite, as bad as Florida fan. Florida fan is dazed and delirious. He walks around thinking the CFB AND NCAA BB seasons revolve around Gainsville. He doesn't realize how fucking retarded he looks doing the chomp in the parking lot of the local Bass Pro Shops parking lot, while Jethro and Billy Bob shotgun Light beers and wear sleeveless too tight flannels, yelling, not talking, "git er done!" When someone other than Florida fan questions why they are even in the Nat'l Championship game, they resort to full scale blow up attacks, never once addressing a serious question, like, how do you explain that loss at HOME to those juggernuats from Ole Miss? They instantly go to the, "We will rip your fuckin heads off and don't ever come to the swamp" card. Haha, the Swamp. Hell, good old Jevan Snead did you in your own crib.

Now onto Ohio State. The Vest needs to do a better job of recruiting some talent, and not just some corn fed hogs up front. Yeah, I know that's Big Ten FB, but after Clarrett left, they have been a bit thin at RB and QB. And I love OSU's (no I won't refer to them as THE Ohio State University), out of conf schedule. Youngstown State, and Troy. Impressive. The one good team you scheduled OOC was SC and they got you by 5 TD's. No wonder OSU doesn't play big boys OOC.