MR

Hi,

Wanted to post this on the noticeboard but for some reason I can't log in, so I thought I'd ask you guys!

Does the 1988 US version feature different mixes from the original Australian Mushroom Records release (1987)? I recently picked up the latter (going cheap in a second hand shop) and I swear there are differences. I really noticed the difference when I got to Waitin' For the Heartache - there are backing vocals missing on the Oz release (spotted it when there wasn't the call-back of "reachin' out for you in the night" at around 3:35). I know there were struggles between Barnes and Cain in the studio over this album - could this explain (what sounds like) different mixes? The track order is different as well! Hmm...

Couldn't find any confirmation that the mixes are different with a quick google search. Personally prefer the US version, but then that's the version I've lived with for longest.

Of course, it may just be my wonky ears!

Ta!

- Danny.

PS: Absolutely adore 'Last Frontier' particularly the piano intro - has Cain written all over it!

Idiosyncrasy wrote:Hi,

Wanted to post this on the noticeboard but for some reason I can't log in, so I thought I'd ask you guys!

Does the 1988 US version feature different mixes from the original Australian Mushroom Records release (1987)? I recently picked up the latter (going cheap in a second hand shop) and I swear there are differences. I really noticed the difference when I got to Waitin' For the Heartache - there are backing vocals missing on the Oz release (spotted it when there wasn't the call-back of "reachin' out for you in the night" at around 3:35). I know there were struggles between Barnes and Cain in the studio over this album - could this explain (what sounds like) different mixes? The track order is different as well! Hmm...

Couldn't find any confirmation that the mixes are different with a quick google search. Personally prefer the US version, but then that's the version I've lived with for longest.

Of course, it may just be my wonky ears!

Ta!

- Danny.

PS: Absolutely adore 'Last Frontier' particularly the piano intro - has Cain written all over it!

Not totally sure, but I have heard there is a version with backing vocals on Waiting for the Heartache, so you may be right. The live version on the Barnestorming album definitely has a lot of backing vocals--which is a very nice touch.

btw, if you haven't heard it, go find Barnestorming, the live album from the FTH tour. Probably about 80% of the album is performed, and once you have heard the live cuts, the studio version just sounds tame. It's worth it for the version of Too Much Ain't Enough alone. Neal Schon had already left the band by this point (don't think there are any recordings of him performing live with Barnes), but the Barnes always had a very solid live band and was known for rocking up the songs a bit. It literally is night and day from the FTH album--and much better, IMO.

P.S. Last Frontier on the live album has a short piano solo prior to the intro.

Yes, slightly different I believe....

The definitive and utterly essential releases are:

Working Class Man (1985)
Freight Train Heart (1987)

Both contain Schon/Cain tunes and the duo play throughout FTH. Get the Aussie Mushroom Records releases. Jimmy was a contender for a band project with the duo but would not relocate to the US with his family to do it.

Andrew wrote:Yes, slightly different I believe....

The definitive and utterly essential releases are:

Working Class Man (1985)
Freight Train Heart (1987)

Both contain Schon/Cain tunes and the duo play throughout FTH. Get the Aussie Mushroom Records releases. Jimmy was a contender for a band project with the duo but would not relocate to the US with his family to do it.

Who is this Cain guy you speak of?