Hey Deano, Read On!

[jrnyman28]

http://www.comcast.net/music/blindedbythehype/4088/itstimetofiretheboss/

Sorry, can't C&P this. But it's about "the Boss", Bruce Springsteen.

[Don]

Everyone loves Bruce Springsteen. Well, maybe not everyone, but a lot of people do, and with good reason. He became the voice of the post-Vietnam generation. His music spoke to the hardworking men and women trying to get by as a new day dawned in Reagan's America. He took the world by storm with a string of critically acclaimed records from his 1973 debut to his masterpiece, "Born in the U.S.A."

At his creative and commercial peak, he rebuked Ronald Reagan. It was the courageous and right thing to do. But, oh, how the mighty have fallen. He may still rank right up there with Dylan as a great American songwriter for his past work, but unlike Dylan, he's no longer making music that means anything, maybe not even to himself. The Boss has become a populist caricature, unable to speak cogently about the problems Americans face today. Listen to his new music and tell me he's not simply going through the motions.

It may not look like it, but Bruce Springsteen is a man undone by his own success. No, his isn't the cliched story of so many rock stars, brought low by partying to excess. For Bruce, it was something more personal. He threw away his identity, his most prized possession, the thing that made it possible for people to believe in him. It all ended when he walked away from the E Street Band, married an actress, divorced her, and moved to Hollywood, then moved back, hoping that his problems were simply a matter of geography.

What we see now is a shell of his former self. There's no denying that his tours still sell out to a throng of absolutely rabid fans, but they don't go to hear his new music. They want to hear the songs he wrote twenty to thirty years ago. He may still be an electrifying performer, but he's clutching to his audience's nostalgia now. It may be a living, but what has he done lately that's really moved you? Isn't that what made his music so special?

Once the voice of the working man, Bruce is now selling his Greatest Hits at Wal-Mart. His new album, "Working on a Dream," will be as forgettable as his last, although "The Wrestler" has its moments. Instead of being an exciting musician, he's become the Willie Loman of Americana, covering the same ground joylessly with every successive album. Whatever fire was in his belly when he wrote "Born to Run" burnt out long ago. Sad though it may be, it's time for change: we need to fire the Boss.

Think Bruce still has what it takes? Think it's high time he hung it up? Who do you think speaks most for America now?




They could be talking about Journey or a dozen other different acts with this type of analysis.

[lights1961]

Everyone loves Bruce Springsteen. Well, maybe not everyone, but a lot of people do, and with good reason. He became the voice of the post-Vietnam generation. His music spoke to the hardworking men and women trying to get by as a new day dawned in Reagan's America. He took the world by storm with a string of critically acclaimed records from his 1973 debut to his masterpiece, "Born in the U.S.A."

At his creative and commercial peak, he rebuked Ronald Reagan. It was the courageous and right thing to do. But, oh, how the mighty have fallen. He may still rank right up there with Dylan as a great American songwriter for his past work, but unlike Dylan, he's no longer making music that means anything, maybe not even to himself. The Boss has become a populist caricature, unable to speak cogently about the problems Americans face today. Listen to his new music and tell me he's not simply going through the motions.

It may not look like it, but Bruce Springsteen is a man undone by his own success. No, his isn't the cliched story of so many rock stars, brought low by partying to excess. For Bruce, it was something more personal. He threw away his identity, his most prized possession, the thing that made it possible for people to believe in him. It all ended when he walked away from the E Street Band, married an actress, divorced her, and moved to Hollywood, then moved back, hoping that his problems were simply a matter of geography.

What we see now is a shell of his former self. There's no denying that his tours still sell out to a throng of absolutely rabid fans, but they don't go to hear his new music. They want to hear the songs he wrote twenty to thirty years ago. He may still be an electrifying performer, but he's clutching to his audience's nostalgia now. It may be a living, but what has he done lately that's really moved you? Isn't that what made his music so special?

Once the voice of the working man, Bruce is now selling his Greatest Hits at Wal-Mart. His new album, "Working on a Dream," will be as forgettable as his last, although "The Wrestler" has its moments. Instead of being an exciting musician, he's become the Willie Loman of Americana, covering the same ground joylessly with every successive album. Whatever fire was in his belly when he wrote "Born to Run" burnt out long ago. Sad though it may be, it's time for change: we need to fire the Boss.

Think Bruce still has what it takes? Think it's high time he hung it up? Who do you think speaks most for America now?




They could be talking about Journey or a dozen other different acts with this type of analysis.

strange aritcle, but that could be meant for all the acts that are WASHED UP... and it was such a cliche...

[Rockindeano]

It's curtains! It's all over! I might as well throw away my CD's, and hire a youtube singer with a "fire in his belly" and write some new material that isn't forgettable and in memorable! Fuck, what hath I wrought buying into this guy and his band? Have I just been a fan of someone popular? My goodness, how can this be?

LOL, okay. where to start? Fuck you jrnyman28. Try to bring this shit here to level the playing field, huh? Nice try. Fail.

Fire in the belly reeks of a jealous and pissed off writer. This makes me laugh out loud. magic was the forgettable album of last year that sold 3 million and was chock full of deep lyrical content, sing along songs, 2 music award nominees and was the biggest tour in the land. Was it the Rising? No, not quite, but what exactly compares to that record?

I guess being in the flat out biggest fucking band on Earth for 20+ years is reason to get "fired" from the public. I assume that if one gets picked to play the biggest television spectacle on the planet equates to "hanging em up?" Makes sense to me. I guess playing your old, today's and new music for 3 billion people in a span of 14 minutes mean nobody gives two shits.

About the Walmart deal. That is bullshit. Trust me you, his fans are hot about that crap. The hopes of many are he didn't have anything to do with it. Hopes are it was the 5th and final release per a contract, and they threw it to Walmart to coincide with the Super Bowl, in order to get more folks to hear his music. The problem is Wal-Mart people are not Bruce fans and Bruce isn't a WalMart guy. That fucking place goes against anything and everything he and his music stands for. The release itself is pure shit, and the 10 songs slapped on there are not even Greatest Hits. They are just a lone single picked from every album done. Of course, it will sell about 10 million but who's ounting?

He does have some explaining to do and I would expect some serious booing at the first stop of the new tour(as soon as Max figures out how to get out of that fag Conan O'brien's contract).

I don't have to get uptight, pissed or even have to defend this. The article is pure opinion, sour as it may be, from an obviously bitter fan. Springsteen riles up opposing political opinions like Fox does to the left and MSNBC does to the right. Righty winged nutjobs hate this guy. It makes it all the much sweeter when articles like this are printed. I am sure it brought about a huge smile from Bruce as he sat down to take a shit at Super Bowl rehearsals.

Scoreboard.

[Rockindeano]

What we see now is a shell of his former self. There's no denying that his tours still sell out to a throng of absolutely rabid fans, but they don't go to hear his new music. They want to hear the songs he wrote twenty to thirty years ago. He may still be an electrifying performer, but he's clutching to his audience's nostalgia now. It may be a living, but what has he done lately that's really moved you? Isn't that what made his music so special?

This is proof that the writer is absolutely clueless.

He or she cannot write this if they have been to a show recently. Every show I harp about this..is chock full of new stuff, never before played stuff and deep cuts.

[lights1961]

clasic response

[Andrew]

What we see now is a shell of his former self. There's no denying that his tours still sell out to a throng of absolutely rabid fans, but they don't go to hear his new music. They want to hear the songs he wrote twenty to thirty years ago. He may still be an electrifying performer, but he's clutching to his audience's nostalgia now. It may be a living, but what has he done lately that's really moved you? Isn't that what made his music so special?

This is proof that the writer is absolutely clueless.

He or she cannot write this if they have been to a show recently. Every show I harp about this..is chock full of new stuff, never before played stuff and deep cuts.

Agree with Deano.

[X factor]

What we see now is a shell of his former self. There's no denying that his tours still sell out to a throng of absolutely rabid fans, but they don't go to hear his new music. They want to hear the songs he wrote twenty to thirty years ago. He may still be an electrifying performer, but he's clutching to his audience's nostalgia now. It may be a living, but what has he done lately that's really moved you? Isn't that what made his music so special?

This is proof that the writer is absolutely clueless.

He or she cannot write this if they have been to a show recently. Every show I harp about this..is chock full of new stuff, never before played stuff and deep cuts.

Allow me to chime in here...

Deano is 100% correct! I've been to many a post reunion Bruce show, and Lemmee tell ya...the audience ain't hittin the beer line or sleepin' during the new tracks! GYPSY BIKER was a highlight of this past tour with a sizzling guitar dual at the end. MARY'S PLACE is a huge rave up in the tradition of Rosalita. I've watched an entire crowd sing along to WAITIN ON A SUNNY DAY, LONESOME DAY and THE RISING. And every performance of MY CITY OF RUINS and DEVIL'S ARCADE I witnessed moved me more than the last. (Yes, asshole it MOVED ME!!!) What do these songs have in common? ALL WRITTEN IN THE LAST 8 YEARS! And hey , douchebag, the "married an actress, moved to Hollywood" bullshit happened in the 90s when, admittedly, he was a bit at sea artisticlly. So why is that even RELEVANT to a conversation of who the man is now? That was nearly 20 fucking years ago! Let me tell you what Bruce means to THIS fan-
Hope in a brighter tomorrow- faith that we can achieve our dreams and goals, and faith in the American dream - that it IS still possible to carve out a little dignity for ourselves and our families in a very UNDIGNIFIED world. That, to borrow a phrase from the man hisself, it ain't no sin to be glad you're alive!

This man is not some fucking OLDIES act, just dusting off the hits for a legion of mouth breathers. This man's work is exciting, and visceral. His live shows are LEGENDARY! And if he seems to be putting out more material these days than back in the day (used to take YEARS for a new Boss record- now it seems that he records one every time he leaves the house!) maybe it's because he knows the clock is ticking and he only has so many good years left. Danny Federci's death brought this home all too well. And What THE FUCK...is wrong with that, I ask you????


This turd has no clue what he's talking about...


OK....I REALLY need to switch to decaf!

[Ehwmatt]

Everyone loves Bruce Springsteen. Well, maybe not everyone, but a lot of people do, and with good reason. He became the voice of the post-Vietnam generation. His music spoke to the hardworking men and women trying to get by as a new day dawned in Reagan's America. He took the world by storm with a string of critically acclaimed records from his 1973 debut to his masterpiece, "Born in the U.S.A."

At his creative and commercial peak, he rebuked Ronald Reagan. It was the courageous and right thing to do. But, oh, how the mighty have fallen. He may still rank right up there with Dylan as a great American songwriter for his past work, but unlike Dylan, he's no longer making music that means anything, maybe not even to himself. The Boss has become a populist caricature, unable to speak cogently about the problems Americans face today. Listen to his new music and tell me he's not simply going through the motions.

It may not look like it, but Bruce Springsteen is a man undone by his own success. No, his isn't the cliched story of so many rock stars, brought low by partying to excess. For Bruce, it was something more personal. He threw away his identity, his most prized possession, the thing that made it possible for people to believe in him. It all ended when he walked away from the E Street Band, married an actress, divorced her, and moved to Hollywood, then moved back, hoping that his problems were simply a matter of geography.

What we see now is a shell of his former self. There's no denying that his tours still sell out to a throng of absolutely rabid fans, but they don't go to hear his new music. They want to hear the songs he wrote twenty to thirty years ago. He may still be an electrifying performer, but he's clutching to his audience's nostalgia now. It may be a living, but what has he done lately that's really moved you? Isn't that what made his music so special?

Once the voice of the working man, Bruce is now selling his Greatest Hits at Wal-Mart. His new album, "Working on a Dream," will be as forgettable as his last, although "The Wrestler" has its moments. Instead of being an exciting musician, he's become the Willie Loman of Americana, covering the same ground joylessly with every successive album. Whatever fire was in his belly when he wrote "Born to Run" burnt out long ago. Sad though it may be, it's time for change: we need to fire the Boss.

Think Bruce still has what it takes? Think it's high time he hung it up? Who do you think speaks most for America now?




They could be talking about Journey or a dozen other different acts with this type of analysis.

Just another asinine music critic's analysis. Fuck that. I don't listen to Bruce or anyone else to hear them wax poetic. Dylan might be a great lyricist but he fuckin sucks at singing and performing. Sure, I enjoy a great story or message in a song if it's incidental to an already strong musical effort, like a CSNY song or something. Anyway, Bruce still rocks, especially when he's not putting politics front and center. Magic was a killer album.

And I couldn't care less about where he chooses to distribute or not distribute his record, as long as I have access to it.

[Rockindeano]

Have to post this. Makes me a very proud fan.

INAUGURATION WATCH: BRUCE TO KICK IT ALL OFF?
Nothing official yet, but here's what's blowin' in the wind. On Monday, Fox News' Roger Friedman wrote of potential musicians "in the mix" for Inaugural events: "Obama stalwarts Stevie Wonder, Barbra Streisand, and Bruce Springsteen, I am told, were each asked to play at specific events around Washington on January 20th."

Now, WashingtonPost.com's Inauguration Watch blog points to specifics: "The Presidential Inaugural Committee has been mum, but sources tell the Post's Lena Sun that Bruce Springsteen will perform at Barack Obama's inauguration week welcome event Jan. 18 on the National Mall. The event will be on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial and open to the public for free." WTOP concurs.

According to the Presdential Inaugural Committee website, the Lincoln Memorial event is the Inaugration's Sunday afternoon "Opening Celebration" and will be broadcast live: HBO will exclusively televise the Opening Celebration for the 56th Presidential Inaugural, a celebration of America to be held on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on Sunday, January 18th. HBO will televise the event that evening on an open signal, working with all of its distributors to allow Americans across the country with access to cable or satellite television to join in the Opening Celebration for free.... The Opening Celebration will be a marquis event, featuring some of the biggest acts in the world of entertainment to celebrate our common heritage and our new direction. President-elect Obama and Vice President-elect Biden will both attend the event, which will be free and open to the public."

Ears to the ground for official word.
- January 7, 2009

[S2M]

Have to post this. Makes me a very proud fan.

INAUGURATION WATCH: BRUCE TO KICK IT ALL OFF?
Nothing official yet, but here's what's blowin' in the wind. On Monday, Fox News' Roger Friedman wrote of potential musicians "in the mix" for Inaugural events: "Obama stalwarts Stevie Wonder, Barbra Streisand, and Bruce Springsteen, I am told, were each asked to play at specific events around Washington on January 20th."

Now, WashingtonPost.com's Inauguration Watch blog points to specifics: "The Presidential Inaugural Committee has been mum, but sources tell the Post's Lena Sun that Bruce Springsteen will perform at Barack Obama's inauguration week welcome event Jan. 18 on the National Mall. The event will be on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial and open to the public for free." WTOP concurs.

According to the Presdential Inaugural Committee website, the Lincoln Memorial event is the Inaugration's Sunday afternoon "Opening Celebration" and will be broadcast live: HBO will exclusively televise the Opening Celebration for the 56th Presidential Inaugural, a celebration of America to be held on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on Sunday, January 18th. HBO will televise the event that evening on an open signal, working with all of its distributors to allow Americans across the country with access to cable or satellite television to join in the Opening Celebration for free.... The Opening Celebration will be a marquis event, featuring some of the biggest acts in the world of entertainment to celebrate our common heritage and our new direction. President-elect Obama and Vice President-elect Biden will both attend the event, which will be free and open to the public."

Ears to the ground for official word.
- January 7, 2009

Dude, what's so fucking great about that? He's a lib, and Obama won the election. Nothing earth shattering there, please move on.

[Rockindeano]

You're right. I guess it's the same as a republican corporate Zorro winning and having Uncle Ted doing the honours eh? Something tells me this is going to be special, and like him or not, Bruce emblazens Americana to the rest of the world. I am guessing Ted would play McCain's inauguration ball out at the Wild Hog Saloon complete with shoot em up pyrotechnics, and Bible readings throughout the establishment.

Come on, don't you want to feel good, feel excited about America? At least give the guy a chance. I gave Bush a couple chances. I think it's only fair don't you?

Man, talk about being on an high and now being in the dumpster. Geez.

[Don]

Have to post this. Makes me a very proud fan.

INAUGURATION WATCH: BRUCE TO KICK IT ALL OFF?
Nothing official yet, but here's what's blowin' in the wind. On Monday, Fox News' Roger Friedman wrote of potential musicians "in the mix" for Inaugural events: "Obama stalwarts Stevie Wonder, Barbra Streisand, and Bruce Springsteen, I am told, were each asked to play at specific events around Washington on January 20th."

Now, WashingtonPost.com's Inauguration Watch blog points to specifics: "The Presidential Inaugural Committee has been mum, but sources tell the Post's Lena Sun that Bruce Springsteen will perform at Barack Obama's inauguration week welcome event Jan. 18 on the National Mall. The event will be on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial and open to the public for free." WTOP concurs.

According to the Presdential Inaugural Committee website, the Lincoln Memorial event is the Inaugration's Sunday afternoon "Opening Celebration" and will be broadcast live: HBO will exclusively televise the Opening Celebration for the 56th Presidential Inaugural, a celebration of America to be held on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial on Sunday, January 18th. HBO will televise the event that evening on an open signal, working with all of its distributors to allow Americans across the country with access to cable or satellite television to join in the Opening Celebration for free.... The Opening Celebration will be a marquis event, featuring some of the biggest acts in the world of entertainment to celebrate our common heritage and our new direction. President-elect Obama and Vice President-elect Biden will both attend the event, which will be free and open to the public."

Ears to the ground for official word.
- January 7, 2009

Dude, what's so fucking great about that? He's a lib, and Obama won the election. Nothing earth shattering there, please move on.

This just in, there is word that none other then Arnel and the JBoyz will be performing at the PRE- Inaugration Party earlier that day, with possibly one song (DSB) being given airtime over network television.

[Rockindeano]

This just in, there is word that none other then Arnel and the JBoyz will be performing at the PRE- Inaugration Party earlier that day, with possibly one song (DSB) being given airtime over network television.

You beat me to it. On the Bruce site I read, it specifically says Journey on the undercard for Bruce that day, probably the 18th. I guess the bands are going to meet and everything.

[Eric]

Gotta be rooting for Obama no matter what you think of him.....makes no sense to root for your President to fail.

[RedWingFan]

The problem is Wal-Mart people are not Bruce fans and Bruce isn't a WalMart guy. That fucking place goes against anything and everything he and his music stands for.

He's against $4 prescriptions. Goods sold at low prices? The Walmart demographic is probably 75% dem, 25% Rep.
Bruce is probably right, they need to be run out of business!!!

[Arianddu]

The problem is Wal-Mart people are not Bruce fans and Bruce isn't a WalMart guy. That fucking place goes against anything and everything he and his music stands for.

He's against $4 prescriptions. Goods sold at low prices? The Walmart demographic is probably 75% dem, 25% Rep.
Bruce is probably right, they need to be run out of business!!!

I'd say it's more their staffing policies that are being objected to.

[artist4perry]

The problem is Wal-Mart people are not Bruce fans and Bruce isn't a WalMart guy. That fucking place goes against anything and everything he and his music stands for.

He's against $4 prescriptions. Goods sold at low prices? The Walmart demographic is probably 75% dem, 25% Rep.
Bruce is probably right, they need to be run out of business!!!

I'd say it's more their staffing policies that are being objected to.

I'd agree. Walmart, I have to shop their because my work is part time right now, but I wished I didn't have to. They shut down more small buisnesses, and in a nasty way.

[RedWingFan]

The problem is Wal-Mart people are not Bruce fans and Bruce isn't a WalMart guy. That fucking place goes against anything and everything he and his music stands for.

He's against $4 prescriptions. Goods sold at low prices? The Walmart demographic is probably 75% dem, 25% Rep.
Bruce is probably right, they need to be run out of business!!!

I'd say it's more their staffing policies that are being objected to.

I've yet to read of any instances of any Walmart holding workers against their will or refusing to let them leave the company if they were unhappy. They offer a wage and accept applicants that they hire. That used to be allowed in America.
Keep up the good fight against that Bruce.

[artist4perry]

The problem is Wal-Mart people are not Bruce fans and Bruce isn't a WalMart guy. That fucking place goes against anything and everything he and his music stands for.

He's against $4 prescriptions. Goods sold at low prices? The Walmart demographic is probably 75% dem, 25% Rep.
Bruce is probably right, they need to be run out of business!!!

I'd say it's more their staffing policies that are being objected to.

I've yet to read of any instances of any Walmart holding workers against their will or refusing to let them leave the company if they were unhappy. They offer a wage and accept applicants that they hire. That used to be allowed in America.
Keep up the good fight against that Bruce.

They also break laws about breaks, etc..................Do some research about why people are saying this............

[RedWingFan]

The problem is Wal-Mart people are not Bruce fans and Bruce isn't a WalMart guy. That fucking place goes against anything and everything he and his music stands for.

He's against $4 prescriptions. Goods sold at low prices? The Walmart demographic is probably 75% dem, 25% Rep.
Bruce is probably right, they need to be run out of business!!!

I'd say it's more their staffing policies that are being objected to.

I've yet to read of any instances of any Walmart holding workers against their will or refusing to let them leave the company if they were unhappy. They offer a wage and accept applicants that they hire. That used to be allowed in America.
Keep up the good fight against that Bruce.

They also break laws about breaks, etc..................Do some research about why people are saying this............

Yeah, how are employees expected to eat their lunch when they're not allowed ample smoke breaks! Get the UAW in there to cripple them like GM, Ford and Chrysler.
If you don't like your breaks, etc. Quit, or better yet let them fire you and collect unemployment.

[jrnyman28]

LOL, okay. where to start? Fuck you jrnyman28. Try to bring this shit here to level the playing field, huh? Nice try. Fail.

Not trying to level anything. Simply interested in getting discussion going and I know how you feel about the Boss. I was guaranteed a lively response!

[Arianddu]

The problem is Wal-Mart people are not Bruce fans and Bruce isn't a WalMart guy. That fucking place goes against anything and everything he and his music stands for.

He's against $4 prescriptions. Goods sold at low prices? The Walmart demographic is probably 75% dem, 25% Rep.
Bruce is probably right, they need to be run out of business!!!

I'd say it's more their staffing policies that are being objected to.

I've yet to read of any instances of any Walmart holding workers against their will or refusing to let them leave the company if they were unhappy. They offer a wage and accept applicants that they hire. That used to be allowed in America.
Keep up the good fight against that Bruce.

It's not that simple; when you are broke, unskilled and desperate for work, you take any job you can get. Doesn't make it any more ethical for a large, wealthy corporation to take advantage of that. Or for it to abuse the basic rights workers earned because they know their employees are not in a financial position to be able to afford to leave.

[artist4perry]

The problem is Wal-Mart people are not Bruce fans and Bruce isn't a WalMart guy. That fucking place goes against anything and everything he and his music stands for.

He's against $4 prescriptions. Goods sold at low prices? The Walmart demographic is probably 75% dem, 25% Rep.
Bruce is probably right, they need to be run out of business!!!

I'd say it's more their staffing policies that are being objected to.

I've yet to read of any instances of any Walmart holding workers against their will or refusing to let them leave the company if they were unhappy. They offer a wage and accept applicants that they hire. That used to be allowed in America.
Keep up the good fight against that Bruce.

They also break laws about breaks, etc..................Do some research about why people are saying this............

Yeah, how are employees expected to eat their lunch when they're not allowed ample smoke breaks! Get the UAW in there to cripple them like GM, Ford and Chrysler.
If you don't like your breaks, etc. Quit, or better yet let them fire you and collect unemployment.

Sorry Redwingfan, I have nothing against you, but I do know plenty of people who have worked for Walmart, including my mother in law who retired 2 years ago. She has worked hard all her life, so we are not talking about some spoiled teenager with no work ethic. She worked because she had to. Many people need jobs so desperately they take and take abuse from these companies. I am not talking smoking break, I am talking any break. For 8 plus hours sometimes. We don't need unions, just fair practice.