MR

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:59 am**

SOMEONE should go to jail for this. Guess who's paying for these kids clothes, diapers, formula etc etc,,,,

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_ ... /octuplets

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:02 am**

To me, the doctor who allowed this is to blame. I heard some women talking about this last night. What an abuse of medicine. She may be dumb, but the doctor was supposed to have a brain.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:12 am**

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:15 am**

As a taxpayer, I think we should pay for those kids. It isn't the children's fault they were born. We can't turn our backs on 14 kids can we? Now the mother is a different story. There has to be or should soon be a law of some kind to limit this. If she is doing this in order to receive extra handout money, then yes, we should run her over with a steamroller and paste her thinned out body on the wall of the United Way building.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:17 am**

Rockindeano wrote:As a taxpayer, I think we should pay for those kids. It isn't the children's fault they were born. We can't turn our backs on 14 kids can we? Now the mother is a different story. There has to be or should soon be a law of some kind to limit this. If she is doing this in order to receive extra handout money, then yes, we should run her over with a steamroller and paste her thinned out body on the wall of the United Way building.

Completely agree here. Someone has to take care of the innocent children here...Mom is a wack job and can't do it obviously.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:21 am**

RossValoryRocks wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:As a taxpayer, I think we should pay for those kids. It isn't the children's fault they were born. We can't turn our backs on 14 kids can we? Now the mother is a different story. There has to be or should soon be a law of some kind to limit this. If she is doing this in order to receive extra handout money, then yes, we should run her over with a steamroller and paste her thinned out body on the wall of the United Way building.

Completely agree here. Someone has to take care of the innocent children here...Mom is a wack job and can't do it obviously.

I third that :!:

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:22 am**

Haven't read your link but that must be the 8 new kids in CA. Saw it on the news and just about dropped my drink when they said she already had 6. They also kept mentioning the father not being identified. Wth?

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:22 am**

So who paid for the invitro??? I mean it's EXPENSIVE and I know couples who opt not to do it because of the expense. So did we pay for that too???? The problem is not with taking care of the babies now that they are here, with me. It's that it was allowed in the first place, especially if she was allowed to have her invitro on medicaid. I wonder.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:27 am**

StevePerryHair wrote: It's that it was allowed in the first place, especially if she was allowed to have her invitro on medicaid. I wonder.

You are onto something here. If Medicaid allowed this, then this is disturbing.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:29 am**

This is definitely a sticky wicket. On the one hand: what's the doctor supposed to do, tell her "Yeah, we've got your fertilized eggs here on ice, but until or unless you get a full-time job, get married, buy a house, and otherwise prove to me you're a responsible human being, we're just going to hold on to them for a while." On the other hand: this just ain't right. I really don't know where the middle ground is. Doctors really aren't supposed to be the morality police. This isn't really a matter for intervention by the government (either federal or local) even though it is highly likely this family will become dependent upon government assistance. It doesn't seem there's much anyone can do aside from beating her with a stick.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:29 am**

Rockindeano wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote: It's that it was allowed in the first place, especially if she was allowed to have her invitro on medicaid. I wonder.

You are onto something here. If Medicaid allowed this, then this is disturbing.

It's weird, because the article said when asked how she afforded invitro, she said she got paid for it. What does that mean??? This story is beyond weird! I hope some ethics people will be looking at this case.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:36 am**

StevePerryHair wrote:To me, the doctor who allowed this is to blame. I heard some women talking about this last night. What an abuse of medicine. She may be dumb, but the doctor was supposed to have a brain.

I totally agree. He can pay for these children!!!

I don't think as a taxpayer I should have to pay for stupid people that can't know enough to stay off your back or at the very least use birth control instead of popping out kids you can't support!!!!

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:39 am**

Luvsaugeri wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:To me, the doctor who allowed this is to blame. I heard some women talking about this last night. What an abuse of medicine. She may be dumb, but the doctor was supposed to have a brain.

I totally agree. He can pay for these children!!!

I don't think as a taxpayer I should have to pay for stupid people that can't know enough to stay off your back or at the very least use birth control instead of popping out kids you can't support!!!!

So you are against paying taxes to feed these little kids?

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:40 am**

Luvsaugeri wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:To me, the doctor who allowed this is to blame. I heard some women talking about this last night. What an abuse of medicine. She may be dumb, but the doctor was supposed to have a brain.

I totally agree. He can pay for these children!!!

I don't think as a taxpayer I should have to pay for stupid people that can't know enough to stay off your back or at the very least use birth control instead of popping out kids you can't support!!!!

Yeah, and doctor's do have choices and can refuse to treat someone too. It's not like he HAD to do it for her. And why not suggest mental health counseling first. Not that she HAS to take it, but maybe suggest it. Obviously her mother thought she needed it.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:45 am**

Rockindeano wrote:
Luvsaugeri wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:To me, the doctor who allowed this is to blame. I heard some women talking about this last night. What an abuse of medicine. She may be dumb, but the doctor was supposed to have a brain.

I totally agree. He can pay for these children!!!

I don't think as a taxpayer I should have to pay for stupid people that can't know enough to stay off your back or at the very least use birth control instead of popping out kids you can't support!!!!

So you are against paying taxes to feed these little kids?

Actually...my personal opinion is:

Everyone can have one mistake. Once you have one child and can't support them, my taxes can pay to have Norplant put into your arm. Then the only way it comes out is if/when you can show proof that you can financially support more children. I also think passing a parenting test wouldn't be a bad idea either!!

That's what I will do when I become president!! :wink:

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:54 am**

The news that the octuplets' mother already had six children sparked an ethical debate. Some medical experts were disturbed to hear that she was offered fertility treatment, and troubled by the possibility that she was implanted with so many embryos.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:55 am**

Kelli, that is not a sufficient answer. I am not asking for moral opinions, I am asking what we should do for these kids. The fact of the matter is that they are here now. We cannot turn our backs n them, regardless of how bad and fucked up she is. She could have 30 more kids and my answer would be the same. The kids are innocent.

Taking out her pussy is a bit extreme isn't it?

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:56 am**

Rockindeano wrote:Kelli, that is not a sufficient answer. I am not asking for moral opinions, I am asking what we should do for these kids. The fact of the matter is that they are here now. We cannot turn our backs n them, regardless of how bad and fucked up she is. She could have 30 more kids and my answer would be the same. The kids are innocent.

Taking out her pussy is a bit extreme isn't it?

Agreed. They are here now....it's too late.

But the whole system needs to change.

No pussy removal needed.....just a simple (and inexpensive) form of birth control......

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:00 am**

And on that same thought.....we have laws regarding how or when a person can drink, tests have to be taken for someone to drive...etc.

Yet we let anyone, any age, any mentality pop kids out left and right with no regard for the children what so ever and just expect someone else to clean up their mess.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:01 am**

As long as we are a free country though, we can only suggest birth control and mental health counseling. I wouldn't want to see that change! I think the doctor's should refuse treatment though. It's the same for the plastic surgery addicts. Doctor's allow that to an extreme when those people need counseling. There is a fine line where it seems unethical. I don't think those kids should suffer though.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:01 am**

I say we just send all of these kids to a sweat-shop somewhere and make them earn their keep. And to whoever said we could "beat her with a stick"...this is how she got into this mess...getting beat up with sticks! :lol:

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:03 am**

StevePerryHair wrote:As long as we are a free country though, we can only suggest birth control and mental health counseling. I wouldn't want to see that change! I think the doctor's should refuse treatment though. It's the same for the plastic surgery addicts. Doctor's allow that to an extreme when those people need counseling. There is a fine line where it seems unethical. I don't think those kids should suffer though.

Well if we continue the way we are now we are going to be a free country as well as one of the poorest countries because the people that can't afford children and expect someone else to pick up the tab are multiplying about 3x as fast as people that actually do support their kids.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:03 am**

Luvsaugeri wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Kelli, that is not a sufficient answer. I am not asking for moral opinions, I am asking what we should do for these kids. The fact of the matter is that they are here now. We cannot turn our backs n them, regardless of how bad and fucked up she is. She could have 30 more kids and my answer would be the same. The kids are innocent.

Taking out her pussy is a bit extreme isn't it?

Agreed. They are here now....it's too late.

But the whole system needs to change.

No pussy removal needed.....just a simple (and inexpensive) form of birth control......

Thats one sentence I never thought you'd say!!! :lol:

The babies will be fed and taken care of one way or another. Who should pay for it ? The mom and those who assisted her to get pregnant. Who will pay for it, the taxpayers. Do we have a choice, fuck no.
I think they should take ALL of the children away from her and give them to families who not only deserve them but also can afford to raise them. The mother needs to be sent to a mental hospital and or jail.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:07 am**

Behshad wrote:
I think they should take ALL of the children away from her and give them to families who not only deserve them but also can afford to raise them.

I definitely agree about removal of the 8 new kids. Jolie and Pitt will be flying into LAX shortly to pick them up.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:12 am**

StoneCold wrote:
Behshad wrote:
I think they should take ALL of the children away from her and give them to families who not only deserve them but also can afford to raise them.

I definitely agree about removal of the 8 new kids. Jolie and Pitt will be flying into LAX shortly to pick them up.

I'm sure that she will be evaluated. Especially since she has family concerned too. They don't remove kids that easily though. There has to be proof of abuse. The system is set up to help keep families together if possible. I doubt they will unless she if found mentally incapable.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:29 am**

I think I found a job for this chick. She can start up her own factory.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:35 am**

Gunbot wrote:I think I found a job for this chick. She can start up her own factory.

Mommy Dearest better keep a tight reign on things around the house, or it just my come down to that. I see a real-life Lord of the Flies developing in her home in the very near future....

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:45 am**

Actually...

1. Today individual income taxes account for only approximately one-third of federal revenue
2. The federal government has chosen to simply make (read: print) more money, which means printing more paper money and/or simply adding additional zeros to the government balance sheet.

The concept of us taxpayers paying for this stupid lady having more children is a bit misleading... since literally ALL of our government now runs on financed money, this means that your children and grandchildren would actually be paying for her bundles of joy.

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:48 am**

Jubilee wrote:
Gunbot wrote:I think I found a job for this chick. She can start up her own factory.

Mommy Dearest better keep a tight reign on things around the house, or it just may come down to that. I see a real-life "Lord of the Flies" developing in her home in the very near future....

Posted: **Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:54 am**

Behshad wrote:The babies will be fed and taken care of one way or another. Who should pay for it ? The mom and those who assisted her to get pregnant. Who will pay for it, the taxpayers. Do we have a choice, fuck no.
I think they should take ALL of the children away from her and give them to families who not only deserve them but also can afford to raise them. The mother needs to be sent to a mental hospital and or jail.

Agreed!! And she said it was "paid for"? Who paid for it? I can't imagine invitro would be covered, no questions asked??? Like you said Lynn, isn't it very expensive?

MR

All taxpayers, get ready to pay for 14 kids !

All taxpayers, get ready to pay for 14 kids !