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Postby Duncan » Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:39 am

Apologies if this has been posted before but some may not have heard it.

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Postby finalfight » Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:10 am

Much better sound on this one -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ei8QKflPU

I have the full album of this including the remastered and karaoke tracks. It's great fun.
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Postby StoneCold » Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:41 pm

finalfight wrote:Much better sound on this one -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ei8QKflPU

I have the full album of this including the remastered and karaoke tracks. It's great fun.


He doesn't sound Perryish in the 80s stuff. I have "The VU - Phoenix Rising", pretty good album.

He really only sounded like Perry on the first Storm album imo.

For the heck of it, here's one of his covers. Pretty good.

Send Her My Love - Kevin Chalfant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9iAmJmqF5U
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Postby Rick » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:06 am

StoneCold wrote:
finalfight wrote:Much better sound on this one -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ei8QKflPU

I have the full album of this including the remastered and karaoke tracks. It's great fun.


He doesn't sound Perryish in the 80s stuff. I have "The VU - Phoenix Rising", pretty good album.

He really only sounded like Perry on the first Storm album imo.

For the heck of it, here's one of his covers. Pretty good.

Send Her My Love - Kevin Chalfant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9iAmJmqF5U


Wow, not sure what to say. I didn't care for it. He's got a great voice, but sounds very uninspired. I've never thought he would have been a good fit for Journey. I'd take Soto or Hunsicker any day over Chalfant.
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Postby SP Fan in Oregon » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:27 am

Rick wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
finalfight wrote:Much better sound on this one -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ei8QKflPU

I have the full album of this including the remastered and karaoke tracks. It's great fun.


He doesn't sound Perryish in the 80s stuff. I have "The VU - Phoenix Rising", pretty good album.

He really only sounded like Perry on the first Storm album imo.

For the heck of it, here's one of his covers. Pretty good.

Send Her My Love - Kevin Chalfant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9iAmJmqF5U


Wow, not sure what to say. I didn't care for it. He's got a great voice, but sounds very uninspired. I've never thought he would have been a good fit for Journey. I'd take Soto or Hunsicker any day over Chalfant.


Wow.. First time I have ever heard or seen Chalfant sing. I have to say that what I really liked about him is that he sings the songs without making changes. What I mean is that once you have heard the songs the way Perry first sang them, those songs are forever etched into your mind and soul. When someone new sings them, I think we expect them to sound the same as what we remember, EVEN IF someone different is singing the song. There is this blueprint of what we expect the song to sound like, and I think Chalfant hits the mark when covering the songs as Perry did them. Even though his voice is different, it is appealing nonetheless to hear the song when Chalfant sings them. I cannot say the same for Arnel. I think Arnel sings the songs differently than the original Perry versions so much so, that the song does not fit and actually feels like Arnel is destroying the song. It feels like nails on a chalkboard to hear Arnel sing them, it just doesn't fit into my memory banks... Not to say that Arnel isn't a powerful singer that does a pretty damn good job, but I just don't care for what he does to the songs, it doesn't feel right to me when I hear him sing Journey songs that were made by Perry's voice. Just my opinion........... :D
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Postby Rick » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:42 am

SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
Rick wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
finalfight wrote:Much better sound on this one -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ei8QKflPU

I have the full album of this including the remastered and karaoke tracks. It's great fun.


He doesn't sound Perryish in the 80s stuff. I have "The VU - Phoenix Rising", pretty good album.

He really only sounded like Perry on the first Storm album imo.

For the heck of it, here's one of his covers. Pretty good.

Send Her My Love - Kevin Chalfant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9iAmJmqF5U


Wow, not sure what to say. I didn't care for it. He's got a great voice, but sounds very uninspired. I've never thought he would have been a good fit for Journey. I'd take Soto or Hunsicker any day over Chalfant.


Wow.. First time I have ever heard or seen Chalfant sing. I have to say that what I really liked about him is that he sings the songs without making changes. What I mean is that once you have heard the songs the way Perry first sang them, those songs are forever etched into your mind and soul. When someone new sings them, I think we expect them to sound the same as what we remember, EVEN IF someone different is singing the song. There is this blueprint of what we expect the song to sound like, and I think Chalfant hits the mark when covering the songs as Perry did them. Even though his voice is different, it is appealing nonetheless to hear the song when Chalfant sings them. I cannot say the same for Arnel. I think Arnel sings the songs differently than the original Perry versions so much so, that the song does not fit and actually feels like Arnel is destroying the song. It feels like nails on a chalkboard to hear Arnel sing them, it just doesn't fit into my memory banks... Not to say that Arnel isn't a powerful singer that does a pretty damn good job, but I just don't care for what he does to the songs, it doesn't feel right to me when I hear him sing Journey songs that were made by Perry's voice. Just my opinion........... :D


I didn't find an ounce of emotion in Chalfant's delivery. Perry's is full of emotion. Of course, it's hard to follow SMFP. :lol:

As far as Arnel, I think he buries Chalfant on this song.
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Postby SP Fan in Oregon » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:49 am

Rick wrote:
SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
Rick wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
finalfight wrote:Much better sound on this one -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ei8QKflPU

I have the full album of this including the remastered and karaoke tracks. It's great fun.


He doesn't sound Perryish in the 80s stuff. I have "The VU - Phoenix Rising", pretty good album.

He really only sounded like Perry on the first Storm album imo.

For the heck of it, here's one of his covers. Pretty good.

Send Her My Love - Kevin Chalfant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9iAmJmqF5U


Wow, not sure what to say. I didn't care for it. He's got a great voice, but sounds very uninspired. I've never thought he would have been a good fit for Journey. I'd take Soto or Hunsicker any day over Chalfant.


Wow.. First time I have ever heard or seen Chalfant sing. I have to say that what I really liked about him is that he sings the songs without making changes. What I mean is that once you have heard the songs the way Perry first sang them, those songs are forever etched into your mind and soul. When someone new sings them, I think we expect them to sound the same as what we remember, EVEN IF someone different is singing the song. There is this blueprint of what we expect the song to sound like, and I think Chalfant hits the mark when covering the songs as Perry did them. Even though his voice is different, it is appealing nonetheless to hear the song when Chalfant sings them. I cannot say the same for Arnel. I think Arnel sings the songs differently than the original Perry versions so much so, that the song does not fit and actually feels like Arnel is destroying the song. It feels like nails on a chalkboard to hear Arnel sing them, it just doesn't fit into my memory banks... Not to say that Arnel isn't a powerful singer that does a pretty damn good job, but I just don't care for what he does to the songs, it doesn't feel right to me when I hear him sing Journey songs that were made by Perry's voice. Just my opinion........... :D


I didn't find an ounce of emotion in Chalfant's delivery. Perry's is full of emotion. Of course, it's hard to follow SMFP. :lol:

As far as Arnel, I think he buries Chalfant on this song.


Rick, I agree with you that the "delivery" by Chalfant is uninspiring, certainly NO COMPARISON to Perry's delivery and voice, but at least I recognize the song. That was my point.
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Postby Rick » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:08 am

SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
Rick wrote:
SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
Rick wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
finalfight wrote:Much better sound on this one -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ei8QKflPU

I have the full album of this including the remastered and karaoke tracks. It's great fun.


He doesn't sound Perryish in the 80s stuff. I have "The VU - Phoenix Rising", pretty good album.

He really only sounded like Perry on the first Storm album imo.

For the heck of it, here's one of his covers. Pretty good.

Send Her My Love - Kevin Chalfant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9iAmJmqF5U


Wow, not sure what to say. I didn't care for it. He's got a great voice, but sounds very uninspired. I've never thought he would have been a good fit for Journey. I'd take Soto or Hunsicker any day over Chalfant.


Wow.. First time I have ever heard or seen Chalfant sing. I have to say that what I really liked about him is that he sings the songs without making changes. What I mean is that once you have heard the songs the way Perry first sang them, those songs are forever etched into your mind and soul. When someone new sings them, I think we expect them to sound the same as what we remember, EVEN IF someone different is singing the song. There is this blueprint of what we expect the song to sound like, and I think Chalfant hits the mark when covering the songs as Perry did them. Even though his voice is different, it is appealing nonetheless to hear the song when Chalfant sings them. I cannot say the same for Arnel. I think Arnel sings the songs differently than the original Perry versions so much so, that the song does not fit and actually feels like Arnel is destroying the song. It feels like nails on a chalkboard to hear Arnel sing them, it just doesn't fit into my memory banks... Not to say that Arnel isn't a powerful singer that does a pretty damn good job, but I just don't care for what he does to the songs, it doesn't feel right to me when I hear him sing Journey songs that were made by Perry's voice. Just my opinion........... :D


I didn't find an ounce of emotion in Chalfant's delivery. Perry's is full of emotion. Of course, it's hard to follow SMFP. :lol:

As far as Arnel, I think he buries Chalfant on this song.


Rick, I agree with you that the "delivery" by Chalfant is uninspiring, certainly NO COMPARISON to Perry's delivery and voice, but at least I recognize the song. That was my point.
:D


Yeah, I certainly get your point. :roll:
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Postby Duncan » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:27 am

For me Chalfant sounded best when he was singing in his own voice. Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRdXIu1ZgU0

If you can track it down the Steel Breeze album he did is great too.

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Postby Abitaman » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:42 am

I would take Kevin over anyone who followed Perry in Journey or has tried to be Perry or Journey on there own.
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Postby Duncan » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:50 am

Abitaman wrote:I would take Kevin over anyone who followed Perry in Journey or has tried to be Perry or Journey on there own.


Great singer. My only point is he was great in his own voice and in my view didn't need to ape Perry, which I think you would agree he has tended to do of late.

The track below is my favourite Chalfant vocal.

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Postby Abitaman » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:42 pm

Just finished buying Steel Breeze on Itunes. Downloading it now, will have to give a listen this weekend.
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Postby Abitaman » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:45 pm

Duncan wrote:
Abitaman wrote:I would take Kevin over anyone who followed Perry in Journey or has tried to be Perry or Journey on there own.


Great singer. My only point is he was great in his own voice and in my view didn't need to ape Perry, which I think you would agree he has tended to do of late.



Never really thought of Kevin as trying to sound like Perry, like HUGO, or some of the other guys. Kevin sounds good on just about anything, but never really cared for the 707 Megaforce cd.
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Postby Duncan » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:00 pm

Abitaman wrote:Just finished buying Steel Breeze on Itunes. Downloading it now, will have to give a listen this weekend.


You have to listen to it with your head in the 80's, cruising in an a convertible, mullet blowing in the wind.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:12 pm

Rick wrote:
SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
Rick wrote:
StoneCold wrote:
finalfight wrote:Much better sound on this one -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ei8QKflPU

I have the full album of this including the remastered and karaoke tracks. It's great fun.


He doesn't sound Perryish in the 80s stuff. I have "The VU - Phoenix Rising", pretty good album.

He really only sounded like Perry on the first Storm album imo.

For the heck of it, here's one of his covers. Pretty good.

Send Her My Love - Kevin Chalfant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9iAmJmqF5U


Wow, not sure what to say. I didn't care for it. He's got a great voice, but sounds very uninspired. I've never thought he would have been a good fit for Journey. I'd take Soto or Hunsicker any day over Chalfant.


Wow.. First time I have ever heard or seen Chalfant sing. I have to say that what I really liked about him is that he sings the songs without making changes. What I mean is that once you have heard the songs the way Perry first sang them, those songs are forever etched into your mind and soul. When someone new sings them, I think we expect them to sound the same as what we remember, EVEN IF someone different is singing the song. There is this blueprint of what we expect the song to sound like, and I think Chalfant hits the mark when covering the songs as Perry did them. Even though his voice is different, it is appealing nonetheless to hear the song when Chalfant sings them. I cannot say the same for Arnel. I think Arnel sings the songs differently than the original Perry versions so much so, that the song does not fit and actually feels like Arnel is destroying the song. It feels like nails on a chalkboard to hear Arnel sing them, it just doesn't fit into my memory banks... Not to say that Arnel isn't a powerful singer that does a pretty damn good job, but I just don't care for what he does to the songs, it doesn't feel right to me when I hear him sing Journey songs that were made by Perry's voice. Just my opinion........... :D


I didn't find an ounce of emotion in Chalfant's delivery. Perry's is full of emotion. Of course, it's hard to follow SMFP. :lol:

As far as Arnel, I think he buries Chalfant on this song.


I agree and I like Chalfant, you're so right about the emotion!!! :wink:
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:03 pm

Rick wrote:I didn't find an ounce of emotion in Chalfant's delivery. Perry's is full of emotion. Of course, it's hard to follow SMFP. :lol:

As far as Arnel, I think he buries Chalfant on this song.


As Herbie mentioned about Kevin's Journey covers, "[Kevin] really intimated to me that this was done in the original key. Yeah, but barely, you know if you're a half step down from a major to a minor or whatever, you know, it's a significant change in the tonality and everything else."

Sadly, I'm afraid the window of opportunity for Kevin & Journey has since passed.
Still, I have no doubt he was the right man for the task.
Any doubters should take a listen to "My Love Will Be There" at this link.
Oh, what could have been...

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Postby Rick » Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:41 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Rick wrote:I didn't find an ounce of emotion in Chalfant's delivery. Perry's is full of emotion. Of course, it's hard to follow SMFP. :lol:

As far as Arnel, I think he buries Chalfant on this song.


As Herbie mentioned about Kevin's Journey covers, "[Kevin] really intimated to me that this was done in the original key. Yeah, but barely, you know if you're a half step down from a major to a minor or whatever, you know, it's a significant change in the tonality and everything else."

Sadly, I'm afraid the window of opportunity for Kevin & Journey has since passed.
Still, I have no doubt he was the right man for the task.
Any doubters should take a listen to "My Love Will Be There" at this link.
Oh, what could have been...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =297930221


You know, you get these great singers like Chalfant and Soto, and you wonder what happened. Each of them could have fronted a great band, and they did at one time or another, but they just never took off, so to speak. So much could have come from both of them, and either it's who you know or whatever, but both of them should have been huge. I think Soto could have fronted Queen or Van Halen, better than what they have now. I know it was a dream to get DLR back for Van Halen, but Soto can sing that catalog way better than Roth can now. Or maybe even back in his heyday. Soto is a much better singer than DLR ever was. I think Chalfant had such a hard on for being Journeys lead singer that he didn't give himself a chance to do anything else.
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Postby Don » Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:50 pm

Rick wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Rick wrote:I didn't find an ounce of emotion in Chalfant's delivery. Perry's is full of emotion. Of course, it's hard to follow SMFP. :lol:

As far as Arnel, I think he buries Chalfant on this song.


As Herbie mentioned about Kevin's Journey covers, "[Kevin] really intimated to me that this was done in the original key. Yeah, but barely, you know if you're a half step down from a major to a minor or whatever, you know, it's a significant change in the tonality and everything else."

Sadly, I'm afraid the window of opportunity for Kevin & Journey has since passed.
Still, I have no doubt he was the right man for the task.
Any doubters should take a listen to "My Love Will Be There" at this link.
Oh, what could have been...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =297930221


You know, you get these great singers like Chalfant and Soto, and you wonder what happened. Each of them could have fronted a great band, and they did at one time or another, but they just never took off, so to speak. So much could have come from both of them, and either it's who you know or whatever, but both of them should have been huge. I think Soto could have fronted Queen or Van Halen, better than what they have now. I know it was a dream to get DLR back for Van Halen, but Soto can sing that catalog way better than Roth can now. Or maybe even back in his heyday. Soto is a much better singer than DLR ever was. I think Chalfant had such a hard on for being Journeys lead singer that he didn't give himself a chance to do anything else.


I think they just ended up in an overcrowded career field. There were tons of hair bands and melodic rock types, it was really who you know and being lucky. I pulled out an old import cd last night and was impressed by TNT. Where are they now though? Great pipes but just another group or singer that missed the window of opportunty in the 80's to make a household name for themselves.

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Postby Gideon » Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:52 pm

Rick wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Rick wrote:I didn't find an ounce of emotion in Chalfant's delivery. Perry's is full of emotion. Of course, it's hard to follow SMFP. :lol:

As far as Arnel, I think he buries Chalfant on this song.


As Herbie mentioned about Kevin's Journey covers, "[Kevin] really intimated to me that this was done in the original key. Yeah, but barely, you know if you're a half step down from a major to a minor or whatever, you know, it's a significant change in the tonality and everything else."

Sadly, I'm afraid the window of opportunity for Kevin & Journey has since passed.
Still, I have no doubt he was the right man for the task.
Any doubters should take a listen to "My Love Will Be There" at this link.
Oh, what could have been...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =297930221


You know, you get these great singers like Chalfant and Soto, and you wonder what happened. Each of them could have fronted a great band, and they did at one time or another, but they just never took off, so to speak. So much could have come from both of them, and either it's who you know or whatever, but both of them should have been huge. I think Soto could have fronted Queen or Van Halen, better than what they have now. I know it was a dream to get DLR back for Van Halen, but Soto can sing that catalog way better than Roth can now. Or maybe even back in his heyday. Soto is a much better singer than DLR ever was. I think Chalfant had such a hard on for being Journeys lead singer that he didn't give himself a chance to do anything else.


It's an interesting thought and the world's not exactly fair to those with talents like Chalfant's or Soto's. People with a lot less have made it lightyears farther in the music business than those two and it's disheartening.

But I think they're content with where they are.
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Postby StoneCold » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:22 pm

SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
Wow.. First time I have ever heard or seen Chalfant sing. ...


Hey SPFIO, since you're haven't had a lot of KC exposure, here's a couple you like even better.

The first is The Storm (Chalfant, Rolie, Steve Smith, Ross Valory and Josh Ramos). It came out in the early 90s and made a lot of radio listeners think it was a new Journey tune.

I've Got A Lot To Learn About Love - The Storm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mOr3P1lvtE

Love Changes Everything - Kevin Chalfant solo "Runnin' With The Wind"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RfiYUODoHs
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Postby finalfight » Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:33 pm

Abitaman wrote:I would take Kevin over anyone who followed Perry in Journey or has tried to be Perry or Journey on there own.


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Postby S2M » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:12 am

finalfight wrote:
Abitaman wrote:I would take Kevin over anyone who followed Perry in Journey or has tried to be Perry or Journey on there own.


+1


I guess you haven't heard Jason Kelty..... :lol: :D
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Postby SP Fan in Oregon » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:25 am

StoneCold wrote:
SP Fan in Oregon wrote:
Wow.. First time I have ever heard or seen Chalfant sing. ...


Hey SPFIO, since you're haven't had a lot of KC exposure, here's a couple you like even better.

The first is The Storm (Chalfant, Rolie, Steve Smith, Ross Valory and Josh Ramos). It came out in the early 90s and made a lot of radio listeners think it was a new Journey tune.

I've Got A Lot To Learn About Love - The Storm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mOr3P1lvtE

Love Changes Everything - Kevin Chalfant solo "Runnin' With The Wind"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RfiYUODoHs



Thanks for sharing these.......... Kevin certainly has a smooth voice, and clearly some similarities to Perry. :D
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Postby Abitaman » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:25 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
finalfight wrote:
Abitaman wrote:I would take Kevin over anyone who followed Perry in Journey or has tried to be Perry or Journey on there own.


+1


I guess you haven't heard Jason Kelty..... :lol: :D


Yep, still take Kevin.
not saying any of the others are not good, cause they are...I just think Kevin would have been better, enough Perry in him, but enough of his self not to be Perry.
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Postby finalfight » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:39 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
finalfight wrote:
Abitaman wrote:I would take Kevin over anyone who followed Perry in Journey or has tried to be Perry or Journey on there own.


+1


I guess you haven't heard Jason Kelty..... :lol: :D


I have indeed. All things considered Kevin Chalfant at any given time had the stage experience and singing chops to make a great fit for the band. Given every available option I would put him ahead of anyone other than Perry himself.

Although not a Journey song I would rate his live version of Survivor's 'I Can't Hold Back' as better than the studio original.

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Postby finalfight » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:53 am

finalfight wrote:Much better sound on this one -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ei8QKflPU

I have the full album of this including the remastered and karaoke tracks. It's great fun.


Quoting myself now! But I feel I should mention that the Chalfant/Satriani song 'Hold on to the Vision' that the original thread topic was about is actually fairly ancient. It was written for the alternative soundtrack to the wonderful 1986 movie No Retreat No Surrender and was composed by Frank Harris.
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Postby S2M » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:05 am

finalfight wrote:
finalfight wrote:Much better sound on this one -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ei8QKflPU

I have the full album of this including the remastered and karaoke tracks. It's great fun.


Quoting myself now! But I feel I should mention that the Chalfant/Satriani song 'Hold on to the Vision' that the original thread topic was about is actually fairly ancient. It was written for the alternative soundtrack to the wonderful 1986 movie No Retreat No Surrender and was composed by Frank Harris.



In listening to the 707, and the Steel Breeze stuff I can't help thinking about 80s soundtrack fluff....think John Parr, if you will. :lol: :lol:

Megaforce..... :shock: :lol:
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Postby S2M » Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:26 am

But I do remember when 'I Got alot to Learn About Love' came out. And I thought Steve was back.....when I found out it wasn't him. :shock:
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Postby StoneCold » Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:19 am

finalfight wrote:
Although not a Journey song I would rate his live version of Survivor's 'I Can't Hold Back' as better than the studio original.

http://www.myspace.com/kevinchalfant


It's a great version. His voice melds with Survivor material 'cause its both smooth and has a little rough edginess that Jamison's didn't.

Better I don't know but really good.

Here's the original

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e98UOB0etdo
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