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Put down what I thought of Kevin's cds here at

http://abitaman.blogspot.com/2009/01/ke ... lfant.html

Give them a look over, still looking for a some cds that he is on, that I do not have. Anyone who help, will work out a trade. Let me know.

Abitaman wrote:Put down what I thought of Kevin's cds here at

http://abitaman.blogspot.com/2009/01/ke ... lfant.html

Give them a look over, still looking for a some cds that he is on, that I do not have. Anyone who help, will work out a trade. Let me know.

Tony Mcalpine - Eyes of the World

Dennis DeYoung - One Hundred Years From Now

StocktontoMalone wrote:

Abitaman wrote:Put down what I thought of Kevin's cds here at

http://abitaman.blogspot.com/2009/01/ke ... lfant.html

Give them a look over, still looking for a some cds that he is on, that I do not have. Anyone who help, will work out a trade. Let me know.

Tony Mcalpine - Eyes of the World

Dennis DeYoung - One Hundred Years From Now

I have got the DeYoung, What does he do on the Tony cd, leads or back ground....
There is also the new 707, can't tell if sings leads on any of the songs either, at least by listening on Itunes.

Abitaman wrote:

StocktontoMalone wrote:

Abitaman wrote:Put down what I thought of Kevin's cds here at

http://abitaman.blogspot.com/2009/01/ke ... lfant.html

Give them a look over, still looking for a some cds that he is on, that I do not have. Anyone who help, will work out a trade. Let me know.

Tony Mcalpine - Eyes of the World

Dennis DeYoung - One Hundred Years From Now

I have got the DeYoung, What does he do on the Tony cd, leads or back ground....
There is also the new 707, can't tell if sings leads on any of the songs either, at least by listening on Itunes.

Background

Phil Bryant and Kevin Russell sings on the latest 707, 'The Bridge'

The guy is flat-out amazing.

Only singer to have been personally tapped by Journey creator, Herbie Herbert, to replace Perry.
Enjoy the Augeri and Pineda lineups for what they are, and recognize both members' individual talents, but without Herbie's royal imprimatur, it's not exactly kosher.
Even if they manage to eke another hit single or two out of Arnel, Journey dropped the ball.
Both Storms cds and the first Two Fires installment are the three best Journey cds Journey had nothing to do with.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Even if they manage to eke another hit single or two out of Arnel, Journey dropped the ball.

If they couldn't "hit" with "After All These Years"? It's not happening! Perry-less Journey still have their O-fer intact and are the Detroit Lions of the music biz!!!

RedWingFan wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Even if they manage to eke another hit single or two out of Arnel, Journey dropped the ball.

If they couldn't "hit" with "After All These Years"? It's not happening! Perry-less Journey still have their O-fer intact and are the Detroit Lions of the music biz!!!

Oh for fuck's sake, a platinum album and two very successful tours with a third one likely on the way. Detroit Lions, get the fuck outta here. Absolutely asinine.

Ehwmatt wrote:

RedWingFan wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Even if they manage to eke another hit single or two out of Arnel, Journey dropped the ball.

If they couldn't "hit" with "After All These Years"? It's not happening! Perry-less Journey still have their O-fer intact and are the Detroit Lions of the music biz!!!

Oh for fuck's sake, a platinum album and two very successful tours with a third one likely on the way. Detroit Lions, get the fuck outta here. Absolutely asinine.

The issue wasn't a $5 cd or a successful tour with 2 other bands. It was the lack of a hit single. Thanks for trying to follow along. Asinine.

RedWingFan wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

RedWingFan wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Even if they manage to eke another hit single or two out of Arnel, Journey dropped the ball.

If they couldn't "hit" with "After All These Years"? It's not happening! Perry-less Journey still have their O-fer intact and are the Detroit Lions of the music biz!!!

Oh for fuck's sake, a platinum album and two very successful tours with a third one likely on the way. Detroit Lions, get the fuck outta here. Absolutely asinine.

The issue wasn't a $5 cd or a successful tour with 2 other bands. It was the lack of a hit single. Thanks for trying to follow along. Asinine.

And what other 80s band that we all follow on here has had a breakthrough commercial single? You're over 40, you ain't hittin mainstream. They had a good AC hit in AATY and NWA was topping the classic rock playlists here in Cleveland all summer. That's more than I ever expected them to do.

You're a fool if you think Perry's voice would carry them to the top of the charts. Hell, even if he still sounded like 81 it wouldn't. Would it make for better music? Absolutely. But a hit? Not today

Ther definition of "hit" changes with age. For a band of their era "After All These YEars" was a solid hit. You cannot equate their successes of the 80's with today. Top 40 is not the "top 40 best songs of all genres" like it was back then. Top 40 is it's own genre today. And Journey does not fit it.

Ehwmatt wrote:

RedWingFan wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

RedWingFan wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Even if they manage to eke another hit single or two out of Arnel, Journey dropped the ball.

If they couldn't "hit" with "After All These Years"? It's not happening! Perry-less Journey still have their O-fer intact and are the Detroit Lions of the music biz!!!

Oh for fuck's sake, a platinum album and two very successful tours with a third one likely on the way. Detroit Lions, get the fuck outta here. Absolutely asinine.

The issue wasn't a $5 cd or a successful tour with 2 other bands. It was the lack of a hit single. Thanks for trying to follow along. Asinine.

And what other 80s band that we all follow on here has had a breakthrough commercial single? You're over 40, you ain't hittin mainstream. They had a good AC hit in AATY and NWA was topping the classic rock playlists here in Cleveland all summer. That's more than I ever expected them to do.

You're a fool if you think Perry's voice would carry them to the top of the charts. Hell, even if he still sounded like 81 it wouldn't. Would it make for better music? Absolutely. But a hit? Not today

I don't know if that's completely true. I think they would still get something on the Hot 100 chart with Perry. A lot of Classic rock stations just won't include Journey in their setlist with out Perry. I heard NWA once and it was BUMPER MUSIC! I have never heard AATY and I live in L.A.
I'm not saying they would be rocking the charts but I do think they would have charted higher with Perry. The music wouldn't have to better, it would jut be satisfying the prejudices of stations that believe there is no Journey with out Perry. The Joe Benson, Mark and Brian shows both share that sentiment and they are the top rated shows around here.

IIRC, "When You Love A Woman" was not a hit on Top 40. I believe it was on the AC chart just like "After All These Years". And while it may have charted higher I think it may have actually spent less time total.

Gunbot wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

RedWingFan wrote:

Ehwmatt wrote:

RedWingFan wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Even if they manage to eke another hit single or two out of Arnel, Journey dropped the ball.

If they couldn't "hit" with "After All These Years"? It's not happening! Perry-less Journey still have their O-fer intact and are the Detroit Lions of the music biz!!!

Oh for fuck's sake, a platinum album and two very successful tours with a third one likely on the way. Detroit Lions, get the fuck outta here. Absolutely asinine.

The issue wasn't a $5 cd or a successful tour with 2 other bands. It was the lack of a hit single. Thanks for trying to follow along. Asinine.

And what other 80s band that we all follow on here has had a breakthrough commercial single? You're over 40, you ain't hittin mainstream. They had a good AC hit in AATY and NWA was topping the classic rock playlists here in Cleveland all summer. That's more than I ever expected them to do.

You're a fool if you think Perry's voice would carry them to the top of the charts. Hell, even if he still sounded like 81 it wouldn't. Would it make for better music? Absolutely. But a hit? Not today

I don't know if that's completely true. I think they would still get something on the Hot 100 chart with Perry. A lot of Classic rock stations just won't include Journey in their setlist with out Perry. I heard NWA once and it was BUMPER MUSIC! I have never heard AATY and I live in L.A.
I'm not saying they would be rocking the charts but I do think they would have charted higher with Perry. The music wouldn't have to better, it would jut be satisfying the prejudices of stations that believe there is no Journey with out Perry. The Joe Benson, Mark and Brian shows both share that sentiment and they are the top rated shows around here.

I don't see it happening. There's plenty of equally successful 80s bands still putting new shit out and I don't see them charting anywhere either. And they got original members intact too...

But fuck me, I'd love to even have the chance to be proven wrong (i.e. SP back in Journey!)

jrnyman28 wrote:IIRC, "When You Love A Woman" was not a hit on Top 40. I believe it was on the AC chart just like "After All These Years". And while it may have charted higher I think it may have actually spent less time total.

It actually reached number 12 on Billboard's Hot 100 chart, while hitting number 3 on the A/C chart.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/esearch/ ... F22%2F1997

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/esearch/ ... F05%2F1997

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Both Storms cds and the first Two Fires installment are the three best Journey cds Journey had nothing to do with.

Now, I love both of The Storm cds (and the 2nd one was just brilliant), but the 1st Two Fires cd just leaves me cold. Chalfant sounds great as always, but left to his own devices always seems to try and cram too many lyrics into the available space (Running with the Wind excluded). Barring an awful production that never should have been let out the door, I thought the 2nd Two Fires cd with Jim Peterik on co-writing was far superior. I know I'm in the minority on this however...

kgdjpubs wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Both Storms cds and the first Two Fires installment are the three best Journey cds Journey had nothing to do with.

Now, I love both of The Storm cds (and the 2nd one was just brilliant), but the 1st Two Fires cd just leaves me cold. Chalfant sounds great as always, but left to his own devices always seems to try and cram too many lyrics into the available space (Running with the Wind excluded). Barring an awful production that never should have been let out the door, I thought the 2nd Two Fires cd with Jim Peterik on co-writing was far superior. I know I'm in the minority on this however...

Production on the 2nd Two fires cd is far below the norm.

Abitaman wrote:

kgdjpubs wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Both Storms cds and the first Two Fires installment are the three best Journey cds Journey had nothing to do with.

Now, I love both of The Storm cds (and the 2nd one was just brilliant), but the 1st Two Fires cd just leaves me cold. Chalfant sounds great as always, but left to his own devices always seems to try and cram too many lyrics into the available space (Running with the Wind excluded). Barring an awful production that never should have been let out the door, I thought the 2nd Two Fires cd with Jim Peterik on co-writing was far superior. I know I'm in the minority on this however...

Production on the 2nd Two fires cd is far below the norm.

Very much agreed. How in the world they ever let that one out sounding the way it did is beyond me--and it's not the only cd to suffer from poor production. That being said, the songs were much stronger, IMO.

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Both Storms cds and the first Two Fires installment are the three best Journey cds Journey had nothing to do with.

Yep.

Monker wrote:

The_Noble_Cause wrote:Both Storms cds and the first Two Fires installment are the three best Journey cds Journey had nothing to do with.

Yep.

Both Two Fires CDs are the most boring, no hook-laden, pieces of shit.....seriously. BOOOOOORING.

IYO

Abitaman wrote:IYO

Absolutely....Kevin's voice is good, but the song-writing sucks ass. Just like Fly 2 Fr33dom....Lame. Music is cheesy. oh, IMHO.

StocktontoMalone wrote:

Abitaman wrote:IYO

Absolutely....Kevin's voice is good, but the song-writing sucks ass. Just like Fly 2 Fr33dom....Lame. Music is cheesy. oh, IMHO.

Thanks for not asking what IYO means I was too tired to spell it out.

I have both of the Storm albums on my iPod and this thread inspired me to listen to them again (they haven't been played in easily eight months). What a phenomenal set of CDs. The second one had some shitty writing courtesy of Gregg Rolie, but Chalfant is a fucking vocal god, up there with the Voice. As much as I love the likes of Augeri and even Arnel, I think Chalfant is a tier above them both.

Is it true he's really Perry age?

Good reviews. Left you a comment on the blog.

Have almost all of the cds you reviewed.

How does Two Fires compare to the Storm?

Gideon wrote:How does Two Fires compare to the Storm?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ....and that's being kind.

Gideon wrote:How does Two Fires compare to the Storm?

More melodic than The Storm.
The Storm had glimmers of bluesy Rolie-era Journey mixed in with standard 80's AOR fare.
Two Fires, the first album anyway, is more of a straight ahead Jon Cain/Frontiers affair.
These two tracks are a fairly good examples of it (especially "My Love Will be There").

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... =297930221


One Two Fires track, River of Destiny, co-written by Jim Peterik, is about as good as the genre gets.

Thanks, TNC.

I don't know if it's the sound of the music coming out of a laptop's speakers, but I wasn't particularly impressed with Chalfant's vocals there. I do think I'll buy the album though.

Gideon wrote:Thanks, TNC.

I don't know if it's the sound of the music coming out of a laptop's speakers, but I wasn't particularly impressed with Chalfant's vocals there. I do think I'll buy the album though.

On both tracks?